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#51 WhiteKnight77
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Israel is as much a threat to Iran as Iran is to Israel. To Iran Israel is just an enemy state with nukes who happen to also have the most powerful military nation on earth backing them up. If you think Iran doesn't have grounds to fear Israel as much as Israel fears Iran then you're mistaken.Ace6301

Care to explain why on the very day that Israel was formed that as a whole, Arab nations surrounding Israel attacked said country? Arabs have been wanting to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth since it's inception, is it any wonder why they would ensure that that does not happen?

I think I would trust Darkmans real life experiences to a Wikipedia article that just anyone could write and change.

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#52 DivergeUnify
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I'd be more worried about the US/NATO doing something in response, than Iran actually using them
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"] Israel is as much a threat to Iran as Iran is to Israel. To Iran Israel is just an enemy state with nukes who happen to also have the most powerful military nation on earth backing them up. If you think Iran doesn't have grounds to fear Israel as much as Israel fears Iran then you're mistaken.WhiteKnight77

Care to explain why on the very day that Israel was formed that as a whole, Arab nations surrounding Israel attacked said country? Arabs have been wanting to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth since it's inception, is it any wonder why they would ensure that that does not happen?

I think I would trust Darkmans real life experiences to a Wikipedia article that just anyone could write and change.

Why would I explain why? If you lack the knowledge then go look it up, I'm not here to educate you. If you're trying to say you think i don't know why then you're mistaken in not only that but why I bring up the points I do. I don't give a crap about either side, they're both terrible as far as I'm concerned, constantly prolonging their stupid hatred for each other for petty reasons. Israel is still a country with nukes and an enemy of Iran and thus is a threat to Iran. Who started it is irrelevant at this point. Dark claims that Israel should act preemptively to stop threats then why shouldn't other countries including Israels enemies? If everyone did that we'd all be dead. It's not a smart way to look at international affairs and that's what I'm saying. Even Russia and the US new this when they were at the worst part of their feud. So you prefer proven incorrect statements from biased individuals against the words of articles that source their quotes? I'll keep that in mind in the future.
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Iran will get hit with sanctions but will still finish developing nuclear weapons, will do nothing with them, and after several years no one will care anymore because it's been impossible to use nukes against another country without getting yourself obliterated in the process since the 1960s. The only thing Iran getting nukes does is kill any ideas anyone may have had about invading it.gameguy6700

The real danger here isn't the Iranian military using them. It's Iran's propensity to harbor and aid terrorists. What stops them from putting one of those nukes into the hands of a jihadist maniac? That would be much more likely than Iran "formally" using their atomic weapons.

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#55 MgamerBD
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This is nothing new, its been known that they have been trying to build nuclear arms for awhile now. We can trust Iran way more then we can trust North Korea. Those guys are the real problem.
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#56 _R34LiTY_
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I'm still waiting to see or read about the ones from Iraq. Until then, just seems like more of the same old smear campaign.

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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]Iran will get hit with sanctions but will still finish developing nuclear weapons, will do nothing with them, and after several years no one will care anymore because it's been impossible to use nukes against another country without getting yourself obliterated in the process since the 1960s. The only thing Iran getting nukes does is kill any ideas anyone may have had about invading it.hartsickdiscipl

The real danger here isn't the Iranian military using them. It's Iran's propensity to harbor and aid terrorists. What stops them from putting one of those nukes into the hands of a jihadist maniac? That would be much more likely than Iran "formally" using their atomic weapons.

Nukes come in big packages and require big delivery methods. To hear people talk you'd think most people are under the impression that nuclear weapons can fit in your coat pocket.

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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]Iran will get hit with sanctions but will still finish developing nuclear weapons, will do nothing with them, and after several years no one will care anymore because it's been impossible to use nukes against another country without getting yourself obliterated in the process since the 1960s. The only thing Iran getting nukes does is kill any ideas anyone may have had about invading it.worlock77

The real danger here isn't the Iranian military using them. It's Iran's propensity to harbor and aid terrorists. What stops them from putting one of those nukes into the hands of a jihadist maniac? That would be much more likely than Iran "formally" using their atomic weapons.

Nukes come in big packages and require big delivery methods. To hear people talk you'd think most people are under the impression that nuclear weapons can fit in your coat pocket.

Ever heard of a dirty bomb? How about a suitcase nuke? These things have existed for decades.

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#59 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

The real danger here isn't the Iranian military using them. It's Iran's propensity to harbor and aid terrorists. What stops them from putting one of those nukes into the hands of a jihadist maniac? That would be much more likely than Iran "formally" using their atomic weapons.

hartsickdiscipl

Nukes come in big packages and require big delivery methods. To hear people talk you'd think most people are under the impression that nuclear weapons can fit in your coat pocket.

Ever heard of a dirty bomb? How about a suitcase nuke? These things have existed for decades.

A dirty bomb isn't a nuke. And "suitcase nukes" are impractical, being too large to actually fit into a conventional suitcase (for example the smallest device the Soviet Union ever managed to produce was stated to be the size of a "small refridgerator"), and too small to deliver any significant yeld, and thus far have only been accomplished by the two most advanced nuclear nations in the world - the United States and the Soviet Union.

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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Nukes come in big packages and require big delivery methods. To hear people talk you'd think most people are under the impression that nuclear weapons can fit in your coat pocket.

worlock77

Ever heard of a dirty bomb? How about a suitcase nuke? These things have existed for decades.

A dirty bomb isn't a nuke. And "suitcase nukes" are impractical, being too large to actually fit into a conventional suitcase (for example the smallest device the Soviet Union ever managed to produce was stated to be the size of a "small refridgerator"), and too small to deliver any significant yeld, and thus far have only been accomplished by the two most advanced nuclear nations in the world - the United States and the Soviet Union.

They can get quite small....

let me introduce you to my friend Davy

That little bombish looking nub at the end an A Bomb

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#61 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Ever heard of a dirty bomb? How about a suitcase nuke? These things have existed for decades.

dercoo

A dirty bomb isn't a nuke. And "suitcase nukes" are impractical, being too large to actually fit into a conventional suitcase (for example the smallest device the Soviet Union ever managed to produce was stated to be the size of a "small refridgerator"), and too small to deliver any significant yeld, and thus far have only been accomplished by the two most advanced nuclear nations in the world - the United States and the Soviet Union.

They can get quite small....

let me introduce you to my friend Davy

That little bombish looking nub at the end an A Bomb

Yes, I'm well aware of the Davy Crockett. And the same issues that I highlighted in my post apply (save for being a bit smaller, perhaps, than what the Soviets had managed to develop).

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I think we can take em in a fight.
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#63 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

nice posting all those random internet articles btw, try using your own knowledge for once .

I really couldn't care less if it could make nuclear weapons at that particular time, the danger was there , end of story.

but what do you expect Israel to do? leave things alone and ignore threats?maybe leave it to the rest of the world.

Jewish history teaches that Jews should not leave their protection in the hands of others , hence Israeli policy to prevent threats to the state and to its people, and those are threats.

don't like that policy? fine, do something about it, Israel doesn't attack for no reason , at this point, the public in Israel percieve the Iranian nuclear program as an existential threat (wheter that feeling is justified or not is up for debate but that is the feeling) , hence government responds to these fears accordingly.

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Israel has nukes, but it doesn't sit on Iran's borders, its not an official policy to destroy Iran, never has it attacked Iran, directly or indirectly.

the same is not true conversely, Iran have Hezbollah and to a lesser extent, Hamas as satelite organisations on the border, that is a direct threat. heck , I could go as far as call Lebanon a satelite state of Iran given how Hezbollah almost controls that country.

hence they are threatening me directly and have a history of doing so, the threat is very different..

Israel is as much a threat to Iran as Iran is to Israel. To Iran Israel is just an enemy state with nukes who happen to also have the most powerful military nation on earth backing them up. If you think Iran doesn't have grounds to fear Israel as much as Israel fears Iran then you're mistaken.

Iran has got little reason to hate Israel , or to consider it a major threat, there is no territorial dispute , there are no shared borders, and yet, they are sitting on the border of Israel via satellite organisations. heck , if Iran actually had relations with Israel like in the pre 79 era , there would be far less issue . and it wasn't Israel that broke off relations with Iran , it was Iran that broke off relations with Israel and declared it an enemy state in 79 , so this is Iran's fault. the Iranian threat to Israel comes in 2 forms . 1 ) the direct nuclear threat, although that one is alot less likely (not unless the Ayatollahs have gone totally mad) 2) By getting nuclear weapons , along with a combination of the satellite organisations (and frankly , the Iranians have similar organisations in Iraq, and allegedly Yemen), Iran is attempting to become a regional power beyond its sphere of influence. That lowers Israel's deterrence, and having less deterrence is something you do not want in the Middle East, especially with some of the groups and countries that sit around it (by countries I mean the Hezbollah run Lebanon and Syria), so there is both a direct , and an indirect threat from Iran . and no , Im far from biased, I don't want to attack Iran , but in the current circumstances , them having nuclear weapons is a threat . again , what threat does Israel pose to Iran? its not on its borders, nor is it trying to control its neighbours and usurp them in their sphere of influence and nearby area.
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] Iran has got little reason to hate Israel , or to consider it a major threat, there is no territorial dispute , there are no shared borders, and yet, they are sitting on the border of Israel via satellite organisations. heck , if Iran actually had relations with Israel like in the pre 79 era , there would be far less issue . and it wasn't Israel that broke off relations with Iran , it was Iran that broke off relations with Israel and declared it an enemy state in 79 , so this is Iran's fault. the Iranian threat to Israel comes in 2 forms . 1 ) the direct nuclear threat, although that one is alot less likely (not unless the Ayatollahs have gone totally mad) 2) By getting nuclear weapons , along with a combination of the satellite organisations (and frankly , the Iranians have similar organisations in Iraq, and allegedly Yemen), Iran is attempting to become a regional power beyond its sphere of influence. That lowers Israel's deterrence, and having less deterrence is something you do not want in the Middle East, especially with some of the groups and countries that sit around it (by countries I mean the Hezbollah run Lebanon and Syria), so there is both a direct , and an indirect threat from Iran . and no , Im far from biased, I don't want to attack Iran , but in the current circumstances , them having nuclear weapons is a threat . again , what threat does Israel pose to Iran? its not on its borders, nor is it trying to control its neighbours and usurp them in their sphere of influence and nearby area.

I don't get how you can possibly not understand this. Iran perceives Israel as a threat, whether it has valid reasons for that or not. This isn't up for debate, it's a fact. Israel perceives Iran as a threat because Iran perceives Israel as a threat. Historically Israel is very, very hostile to things that don't like it. Israel has nukes and as far as Iran is concerned it thinks Israel will use nukes on them preemptively (you're actually a perfect example of the mindset that causes this kind of thinking to go down with your blow it up if it's a threat mentality which started this). As such Iran wants nukes to cement it's self as a country not to be screwed with. It's very circular but this is exactly what I mean by these groups perpetuating the hate. No one is good in this and neither side is worth defending or accusing. Both are idiots at this point and neither deserve any sort of respect from the west. Also why the hell do you think borders matter here. Last I checked being border buddies isn't a prerequisite for fear of each other or war unless you're living some time before the Greeks. You're extremely biased, there's no way you aren't. You live in Israel right? You have a direct stake in this and as such are about as biased in this as you can get.
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] Iran has got little reason to hate Israel , or to consider it a major threat, there is no territorial dispute , there are no shared borders, and yet, they are sitting on the border of Israel via satellite organisations. heck , if Iran actually had relations with Israel like in the pre 79 era , there would be far less issue . and it wasn't Israel that broke off relations with Iran , it was Iran that broke off relations with Israel and declared it an enemy state in 79 , so this is Iran's fault. the Iranian threat to Israel comes in 2 forms . 1 ) the direct nuclear threat, although that one is alot less likely (not unless the Ayatollahs have gone totally mad) 2) By getting nuclear weapons , along with a combination of the satellite organisations (and frankly , the Iranians have similar organisations in Iraq, and allegedly Yemen), Iran is attempting to become a regional power beyond its sphere of influence. That lowers Israel's deterrence, and having less deterrence is something you do not want in the Middle East, especially with some of the groups and countries that sit around it (by countries I mean the Hezbollah run Lebanon and Syria), so there is both a direct , and an indirect threat from Iran . and no , Im far from biased, I don't want to attack Iran , but in the current circumstances , them having nuclear weapons is a threat . again , what threat does Israel pose to Iran? its not on its borders, nor is it trying to control its neighbours and usurp them in their sphere of influence and nearby area.

I don't get how you can possibly not understand this. Iran perceives Israel as a threat, whether it has valid reasons for that or not. This isn't up for debate, it's a fact. Israel perceives Iran as a threat because Iran perceives Israel as a threat. Historically Israel is very, very hostile to things that don't like it. Israel has nukes and as far as Iran is concerned it thinks Israel will use nukes on them preemptively (you're actually a perfect example of the mindset that causes this kind of thinking to go down with your blow it up if it's a threat mentality which started this). As such Iran wants nukes to cement it's self as a country not to be screwed with. It's very circular but this is exactly what I mean by these groups perpetuating the hate. No one is good in this and neither side is worth defending or accusing. Both are idiots at this point and neither deserve any sort of respect from the west. Also why the hell do you think borders matter here. Last I checked being border buddies isn't a prerequisite for fear of each other or war unless you're living some time before the Greeks. You're extremely biased, there's no way you aren't. You live in Israel right? You have a direct stake in this and as such are about as biased in this as you can get.

their aim isn't purely deterrence, borders mean something between states, Iran is interfering in a part of the region which is well outside its sphere of influence. and of course one has to be hostile to its enemies, what do you expect? that Israel send Khamenaei flowers? however Israel wasn't the one to cut relations and declare an enemy state, Iran did, so Israel shares no blame on that part of things. are the Iranians afraid? Im sure they do , but they aren't doing their part to help resolve the tensions I can assure you of that, and its not as though they can't do that, talking directly to Israel would not hurt them, rather than making grandiose rhetoric.
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] Iran has got little reason to hate Israel , or to consider it a major threat, there is no territorial dispute , there are no shared borders, and yet, they are sitting on the border of Israel via satellite organisations. heck , if Iran actually had relations with Israel like in the pre 79 era , there would be far less issue . and it wasn't Israel that broke off relations with Iran , it was Iran that broke off relations with Israel and declared it an enemy state in 79 , so this is Iran's fault. the Iranian threat to Israel comes in 2 forms . 1 ) the direct nuclear threat, although that one is alot less likely (not unless the Ayatollahs have gone totally mad) 2) By getting nuclear weapons , along with a combination of the satellite organisations (and frankly , the Iranians have similar organisations in Iraq, and allegedly Yemen), Iran is attempting to become a regional power beyond its sphere of influence. That lowers Israel's deterrence, and having less deterrence is something you do not want in the Middle East, especially with some of the groups and countries that sit around it (by countries I mean the Hezbollah run Lebanon and Syria), so there is both a direct , and an indirect threat from Iran . and no , Im far from biased, I don't want to attack Iran , but in the current circumstances , them having nuclear weapons is a threat . again , what threat does Israel pose to Iran? its not on its borders, nor is it trying to control its neighbours and usurp them in their sphere of influence and nearby area.

I don't get how you can possibly not understand this. Iran perceives Israel as a threat, whether it has valid reasons for that or not. This isn't up for debate, it's a fact. Israel perceives Iran as a threat because Iran perceives Israel as a threat. Historically Israel is very, very hostile to things that don't like it. Israel has nukes and as far as Iran is concerned it thinks Israel will use nukes on them preemptively (you're actually a perfect example of the mindset that causes this kind of thinking to go down with your blow it up if it's a threat mentality which started this). As such Iran wants nukes to cement it's self as a country not to be screwed with. It's very circular but this is exactly what I mean by these groups perpetuating the hate. No one is good in this and neither side is worth defending or accusing. Both are idiots at this point and neither deserve any sort of respect from the west. Also why the hell do you think borders matter here. Last I checked being border buddies isn't a prerequisite for fear of each other or war unless you're living some time before the Greeks. You're extremely biased, there's no way you aren't. You live in Israel right? You have a direct stake in this and as such are about as biased in this as you can get.

their aim isn't purely deterrence, borders mean something between states, Iran is interfering in a part of the region which is well outside its sphere of influence. and of course one has to be hostile to its enemies, what do you expect? that Israel send Khamenaei flowers? however Israel wasn't the one to cut relations and declare an enemy state, Iran did, so Israel shares no blame on that part of things. are the Iranians afraid? Im sure they do , but they aren't doing their part to help resolve the tensions I can assure you of that, and its not as though they can't do that, talking directly to Israel would not hurt them, rather than making grandiose rhetoric.

I like how you say Israel wasn't the one to cut relations then blame Iran for not doing their part in mending the relationship while earlier to proposed preemptively attacking Iran. I'm not suggesting either side do anything. I'm just saying that the idea of preemptively attacking someone because of something they could possibly build in the future that they could possibly use on you is a horrible doctrine and is completely counter intuitive as it just pisses everyone off more. I'd like nothing more than for world peace to occur but I'm a realist and know it's not going to happen any time soon. I just think it's idiotic to exacerbate to problem by perpetuating such petty fights. In all honesty though I think Israel sending Iran flowers would be a nice gesture. Surely nicer than threatening to blow them up for things they could maybe do that could maybe effect you.
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] I don't get how you can possibly not understand this. Iran perceives Israel as a threat, whether it has valid reasons for that or not. This isn't up for debate, it's a fact. Israel perceives Iran as a threat because Iran perceives Israel as a threat. Historically Israel is very, very hostile to things that don't like it. Israel has nukes and as far as Iran is concerned it thinks Israel will use nukes on them preemptively (you're actually a perfect example of the mindset that causes this kind of thinking to go down with your blow it up if it's a threat mentality which started this). As such Iran wants nukes to cement it's self as a country not to be screwed with. It's very circular but this is exactly what I mean by these groups perpetuating the hate. No one is good in this and neither side is worth defending or accusing. Both are idiots at this point and neither deserve any sort of respect from the west. Also why the hell do you think borders matter here. Last I checked being border buddies isn't a prerequisite for fear of each other or war unless you're living some time before the Greeks. You're extremely biased, there's no way you aren't. You live in Israel right? You have a direct stake in this and as such are about as biased in this as you can get.

their aim isn't purely deterrence, borders mean something between states, Iran is interfering in a part of the region which is well outside its sphere of influence. and of course one has to be hostile to its enemies, what do you expect? that Israel send Khamenaei flowers? however Israel wasn't the one to cut relations and declare an enemy state, Iran did, so Israel shares no blame on that part of things. are the Iranians afraid? Im sure they do , but they aren't doing their part to help resolve the tensions I can assure you of that, and its not as though they can't do that, talking directly to Israel would not hurt them, rather than making grandiose rhetoric.

I like how you say Israel wasn't the one to cut relations then blame Iran for not doing their part in mending the relationship while earlier to proposed preemptively attacking Iran. I'm not suggesting either side do anything. I'm just saying that the idea of preemptively attacking someone because of something they could possibly build in the future that they could possibly use on you is a horrible doctrine and is completely counter intuitive as it just pisses everyone off more. I'd like nothing more than for world peace to occur but I'm a realist and know it's not going to happen any time soon. I just think it's idiotic to exacerbate to problem by perpetuating such petty fights. In all honesty though I think Israel sending Iran flowers would be a nice gesture. Surely nicer than threatening to blow them up for things they could maybe do that could maybe effect you.

actually Israel did offer Iran humanitarian assistance after an Earthquake several years ago (I can't remember the exact one , I think in 2003, but the help was offered), of course Iran refused. so much for goodwill on Israel's part. then what do you propose? wait until its too late to do anything?
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Psshhhh...So what let the country do what they want.Even if its Developing WMD.I don't think its anyone business.Meaning America,Israel,and whoever else might get ticked off.Heck I view NK more of a threat.

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Iran... major props to the Persians.
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faster then NK, slower then Parkistan and India.

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[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]Care to explain why on the very day that Israel was formed that as a whole, Arab nations surrounding Israel attacked said country? Arabs have been wanting to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth since it's inception, is it any wonder why they would ensure that that does not happen?

I think I would trust Darkmans real life experiences to a Wikipedia article that just anyone could write and change.

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Why would I explain why? If you lack the knowledge then go look it up, I'm not here to educate you. If you're trying to say you think i don't know why then you're mistaken in not only that but why I bring up the points I do. I don't give a crap about either side, they're both terrible as far as I'm concerned, constantly prolonging their stupid hatred for each other for petty reasons. Israel is still a country with nukes and an enemy of Iran and thus is a threat to Iran. Who started it is irrelevant at this point. Dark claims that Israel should act preemptively to stop threats then why shouldn't other countries including Israels enemies? If everyone did that we'd all be dead. It's not a smart way to look at international affairs and that's what I'm saying. Even Russia and the US new this when they were at the worst part of their feud. So you prefer proven incorrect statements from biased individuals against the words of articles that source their quotes? I'll keep that in mind in the future.

Then surely you can understand Israel's trepidation with an Arab country (and extremely Islamic who have had problems with Jews for how long now? Eons maybe?) that has declared it an enemy and has designs on nuclear weapons. Arab countries have been attacking Israel since it's formation and with the exception of 2, the rest of the Arab world do want to see Israel wiped off the face of the earth. There are a few things that I do not agree with in what Israel has done, but they do show restraint and only attack when the straw finally breaks, for the most part. Let someone rain rockets onto your property and see how long it takes you to attack back.

Iran has already shown to the world how underhanded and decieptful it is by wanting to kill a Saudi Arabian ambassador on US soil. Believing that they would use splinter groups to smuggle in some sort of nuclear weapon, dirty bomb or better, to kill Israelis, is not beyond any stretch of the imagination. If they want to wipe out the facility that is capable of creating nuclear weapons, that should be for them to decide, not armchair quarterbacks who are not having to live their lives in fear of such attacks. I am more worried that a madman with nuclear weapons than I am with a whole country with them and I lived most of the Cold War to see that it never happened between the 2 superpowers. Now I have to worry about idiots who want 72 virgins upon their arrival to heaven doing what the Soviets only came close to doing once.

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UN? Iran is not developing nuclear weapons.....its just a very dangerous and silly thing to do (to attack them)

Just let them be and let them take care of their own business.

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UN has found out Iran is developing nuclear arms.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204190704577026103201770154.html

Given the tense and unstable relationship between Iran and the US/UN, could this escalate into a nuclear crisis? Either way, I doubt this will have a pretty outcome.

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its a deterrent, they wont use them they just have them to defend themselves, after all they are pretty big in the oil business, it was a miracle that no one tried to invade it recently. btw plenty of countries have nukes, dont you ever believe the media exaggeration that goes like "ZOMG THEY HAVE NUKES!! WE CANT LET THEM HAVE NUKES THEY WILL BE THROWING THEM LIKE CANDIES IN THE NEXT DAY!"

not only that but Im pretty damn sure they are crappy nukes, the ones that cant even travel 1 country.

just like north korea, the media loves to put fear into people by saying that north korea spends all their gdp in the army and that they have nukes...well yeah their gdp is crappy as hell, plenty of 3rd world countries spend more money in the army than NK and NK nukes are believed to be so fricking bad that if they would launch them it would probably just reach kim jong's house.

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#74 Johnny_Rock
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We should start building those vaults already... :|

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We should blow them back to the stone age.