Iran would never nuke Israel

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[QUOTE="sonicare"]What would prevent Iran from selling a nuke to a terrorist group?sonicare

the same thing that would prevent Britain, France, the US and China

Britain, France, China, and the US do not publicly support terrorist groups.  Iran has.

a) Iran wouldnt give their nukes to any terrorist group because they will need all they can get.

b) Britain, France, the US and China secretly supports terrorist groups world wide and that's almost as bad...

Are you for nuclear proliferation?  I mean seriously.  I think its a crime against humanity that the US, UK, France, China, India, Pakistan, and especially Israel have nukes.  Now we want to add a unstable theocracy to the mix?

Why would it be America that choses who has nuclear weapons?

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[QUOTE="sonicare"]What would prevent Iran from selling a nuke to a terrorist group?Marx_Brother

the same thing that would prevent Britain, France, the US and China

Britain, France, China, and the US do not publicly support terrorist groups.  Iran has.

a) Iran wouldnt give their nukes to any terrorist group because they will need all they can get.

b) Britain, France, the US and China secretly supports terrorist groups world wide and that's almost as bad...

Are you for nuclear proliferation?  I mean seriously.  I think its a crime against humanity that the US, UK, France, China, India, Pakistan, and especially Israel have nukes.  Now we want to add a unstable theocracy to the mix?

Why would it be America that choses who has nuclear weapons?

Isn't it the EU that is applying the major pressure to Iran?

That's interesting.....so currently Iran is capable of enriching Uranium by just 4-5%. Then what's all this fuss about nuclear fallout?

If Iran did in fact manage to reach the percentage needed to develop nuclear weapons, they would get sanctions on them.

That's also interesting to note Israel as a holy land, bringing religion into play. This is one of the few times that State and Church should be spoken of together. It'd be some twilight zone situation if Muslims attacked a place they deem holy. It's the same as Christians attacking the Vatican.

It's very strange to me that the media is reporting this stuff as if it were an imminent threat of World War proportions. Very strange..

[QUOTE="sentencedogu"]Iranians are normal people like us,they do not want to kill antbody,I do know a lot of them
They just don't like the idea of zionisn
Ahmedinejah is a great leader(except being religious)and he is much more intelligent than..........Bush
Ehsannp

Ahmedinejad is a fool who worship arabs. He made our economy worse than ever.He don't know anything about personal right.

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[QUOTE="sonicare"]What would prevent Iran from selling a nuke to a terrorist group?sonicare

the same thing that would prevent Britain, France, the US and China

Britain, France, China, and the US do not publicly support terrorist groups. Iran has.

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[QUOTE="sonicare"]What would prevent Iran from selling a nuke to a terrorist group?sonicare

the same thing that would prevent Britain, France, the US and China

Britain, France, China, and the US do not publicly support terrorist groups.  Iran has.

a) Iran wouldnt give their nukes to any terrorist group because they will need all they can get.

b) Britain, France, the US and China secretly supports terrorist groups world wide and that's almost as bad...

Are you for nuclear proliferation?  I mean seriously.  I think its a crime against humanity that the US, UK, France, China, India, Pakistan, and especially Israel have nukes.  Now we want to add a unstable theocracy to the mix?

I'm against nukes to the fullest, I just think it's hypocritical that the western powers are trying to prevent Iran from gettting nukes when the west has + 20,000 nukes themselves. And Iran doesnt even want to aquire nukes, they want nuclear power to help their booming economy......

You can't be that naive to believe that Iran doesn't want nukes.  There just using nuclear power as an excuse.sonicare

If you're going against Iranian nukes then go against America's nukes, Israeli nukes, British nukes, French nukes... after all america is the only country that has killed thousands with the use of nuclear weaponry.

[QUOTE="sonicare"]You can't be that naive to believe that Iran doesn't want nukes.  There just using nuclear power as an excuse.Marx_Brother

If you're going against Iranian nukes then go against America's nukes, Israeli nukes, British nukes, French nukes... after all america is the only country that has killed thousands with the use of nuclear weaponry.

I am against all those nukes.  However, I strongly believe that the use of nukes to end the worst war the world has ever known saved lives.  One simply has to look at the level of civilian casualties and miliatry casualties at Iwo Jima and Okinawa to see that.

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[QUOTE="sonicare"]What would prevent Iran from selling a nuke to a terrorist group?sentencedogu

the same thing that would prevent Britain, France, the US and China

Britain, France, China, and the US do not publicly support terrorist groups. Iran has.

Who supports the terrorist in Checheyna or in Turkey for that matter?

EDIT - If anything it is the problem that western governments support some regimes in the middle east - aka saudi arabia.

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[QUOTE="sonicare"]You can't be that naive to believe that Iran doesn't want nukes.  There just using nuclear power as an excuse.sonicare

If you're going against Iranian nukes then go against America's nukes, Israeli nukes, British nukes, French nukes... after all america is the only country that has killed thousands with the use of nuclear weaponry.

I am against all those nukes.  However, I strongly believe that the use of nukes to end the worst war the world has ever known saved lives.  One simply has to look at the level of civilian casualties and miliatry casualties at Iwo Jima and Okinawa to see that.

Maybe, but the soviet union defeated Nazi Germany without nukes, I am sure America could've defeated the Japanese without the use of nukes.

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[QUOTE="sonicare"]You can't be that naive to believe that Iran doesn't want nukes.  There just using nuclear power as an excuse.Marx_Brother

If you're going against Iranian nukes then go against America's nukes, Israeli nukes, British nukes, French nukes... after all america is the only country that has killed thousands with the use of nuclear weaponry.

I am against all those nukes.  However, I strongly believe that the use of nukes to end the worst war the world has ever known saved lives.  One simply has to look at the level of civilian casualties and miliatry casualties at Iwo Jima and Okinawa to see that.

Maybe, but the soviet union defeated Nazi Germany without nukes, I am sure America could've defeated the Japanese without the use of nukes.

The Japanese were prepared to fight to the last man - it was only after the emperor personally stepped in after the nuke attacks that they surrendered.

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[QUOTE="sonicare"]You can't be that naive to believe that Iran doesn't want nukes. There just using nuclear power as an excuse.sonicare

If you're going against Iranian nukes then go against America's nukes, Israeli nukes, British nukes, French nukes... after all america is the only country that has killed thousands with the use of nuclear weaponry.

I am against all those nukes. However, I strongly believe that the use of nukes to end the worst war the world has ever known saved lives. One simply has to look at the level of civilian casualties and miliatry casualties at Iwo Jima and Okinawa to see that.

Maybe, but the soviet union defeated Nazi Germany without nukes, I am sure America could've defeated the Japanese without the use of nukes.

The Japanese were prepared to fight to the last man - it was only after the emperor personally stepped in after the nuke attacks that they surrendered.

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[QUOTE="sentencedogu"]Iranians are normal people like us,they do not want to kill antbody,I do know a lot of them
They just don't like the idea of zionisn
Ahmedinejah is a great leader(except being religious)and he is much more intelligent than..........Bush
sentencedogu

Ahmedinejad is a fool who worship arabs. He made our economy worse than ever.He don't know anything about personal right.

You don't know anything about this country.I'm living here.we wake up in the morning and see the price of everything is double.Ahmadinejad make human rights here worse than before but if he is a smart guy he has the power to make it better.You are not going to jail in your country for dancing and drinking in a party or even talking to a girl in the street. All of the world don't gonne call you a terorist because of the fool president who can't handle his mouth.

Um Irans leader has said multiple times that he wants to wipe Isreal out, and destoy them.What better way then with a nuke. Remember they have no regard for human life like the US, Isreal and UN countries do, Iran would kill people without hesitation.SaintLeonidas

   Are you an honest fool?  This would be like carpet bombing a house I don't like down the street destroying even more houses that were unintended that liked me..  Iran would never do that because in the end it would hurt their standing with the world and the people that have pretty much allied them selves with Iran.  Not just that but WHY WHY would Iran, and muslims alike nuke their most precious peace of land into a inhabitable desert that can't be settled on for years after that due to nuclear fall out?  Or what abou tthe fac tthat the radiation cloud could very well effect Iran directly?

I spend quite a bit of time discussing politics with a group of people that come from a wide range of political beliefs as well as religious beliefs. During one of our discussions last night, an interesting point was made, one that I was surprised never entered my mind.

While, I hold the stance that Iran is not seeking to build nuclear weapons, but is instead seeking to build nuclear power plants. We somehow decided to shift the discussion over to the question, "Why can't Iran have Nuclear Weapons?". During this heated debate, someone gave the notion that the only reason that the US even remotely cares about Iran's potential to create nuclear weaponry, is because of Israel's paranoia that Iran will gain huge economical ground in the region if they are able to expand their energy resources. He then posed, that even if Iran is able to somehow enrich uranium to the level of 80% (which is required for a nuclear weapon) from their current enrichment of 4-5% (5% is needed for nuclear power plants), they wouldn't have the missiles capable to reach the US.

I think it was the fact that it was the first time I had considered the scenario of Iran, actually, having nuclear weapons. When trying to picture this in my mind, I suddenly realized the obvious; why on earth would Iran ever drop a nuke on Israel? Israel is holy land for Muslims as well, and clearly Iran is a Muslim country. Doing so would be completely illogical and highly improbable.

So, now I am left here thinking, what are we even remotely being feared into? That Iran may one day become a major player in the world economy? None of this adds up, and only leaves me to turn towards the obvious; we are simply being fooled, once again.

Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on you. [hey, at least I can say it once without making a fool of myself on public television]
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