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#1 Senor-Dweedle
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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/11/06/gulf-arab-states-share-israels-fears-over-irans-nuclear-program/

I think we all need to worry about this, once Iran has nuclear weapons they may sell them to Al Qaeda, times like these make me glad to be living in New Zealand..

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#2 punkpunker
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HINT: its foxnews..... so no worries,its pure propaganda and to get higher rating which works too!

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#3 Senor-Dweedle
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fox

Nothing wrong with Fox, they report pretty damn well

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HINT: its foxnews..... so no worries,its pure propaganda and to get higher rating which works too!

punkpunker

I know it is cool to hate on Fox News, but this is kind of common sense. Iran is Persian and not Arab, and Shi'a and not Sunni. Those are two major reasons why they would fear Iran getting more powerful.

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#5 branketra
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fox

Nothing wrong with Fox, they report pretty damn well

Senor-Dweedle

Tide goes in, tide goes out. Can't explain that.

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#6 horgen  Moderator
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Doesn't US have defence system that is designed to stop incoming nuclear attacks?
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#7 LJS9502_basic
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HINT: its foxnews..... so no worries,its pure propaganda and to get higher rating which works too!

punkpunker
I imagine Iran having nukes might discomfort some ME countries.
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#8 Riverwolf007
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i'm not scared the same site says we have a muslim nazi nigerian prince socialist commie pinko baby eating puppy smothering president to protect us by surrendering.

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#9 GamingTitan
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i would think that the second Iran gets a working nuke they will attack Israel with it. which pretty much means the US is instatly involved. WWIII?

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#10 Darkman2007
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I thought everybody knew this...

of course Iran having nuclear weapons is seen by some of the Arab world as a threat, the Gulf States (primarily Saudi Arabia) , seem to be the most suspicious of it.

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#11 Darkman2007
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i would think that the second Iran gets a working nuke they will attack Israel with it. which pretty much means the US is instatly involved. WWIII?

GamingTitan
Im not quite sure about that, considering the Ayatollahs know very well that the minute Israel is attacked with nuclear missles (wheter the missles are diverted or not) , Iran will turn into a giant parking lot, and that would be just the Israeli response. at the same time, I don't trust the Iranian regime with nuclear weapons, history teaches me that when someone makes a threat against us, one should take it seriously. hence the uncertainly of the situation.
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#12 Harisemo
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It is time shia and sunni put their minor differences behind and focused on the common enemy

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i would think that the second Iran gets a working nuke they will attack Israel with it. which pretty much means the US is instatly involved. WWIII?

GamingTitan

World vs Iran?

That would be an interesting war, all thirty minutes of it.

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Peace based on Mutual Deterrence, how long are you gonna last?

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#16 TehFuneral
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Yeah, considering the scenario in which Iran is crazy enough to bomb Israel as well as the surrounding Arab countries the west have on Iran, its only natural to be against it.

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#17 Masculus
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I wonder how the next months will be. There's a big chance of a military action, at least from Israel's part.

It will be amusing to see the USA departing again into war under the accusation of a foreign enemy possessing weapons of mass destruction.

Hopefully nothing will happen.

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It is time shia and sunni put their minor differences behind and focused on the common enemy

Harisemo

lol, here is how that conversation would go.

"yay! we are united lets kill our common enemy!"

"who do we start with?"

"women!"

"science!"

anybody not us!"

"yay! we are agreed! who do we start with? the women?

"no! start with science! no start with everybody!"

"you will start with who i say to or i will kill you!!!!"

"shutup! i keel you!"

"no i keel you!"

*sounds of gunfire*

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#19 Darkman2007
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Yeah, considering the scenario in which Iran is crazy enough to bomb Israel as well as the surrounding Arab countries the west have on Iran, its only natural to be against it.

TehFuneral
does Iran possessing nuclear weapons affect the Arab world from your perspective? and if so , in positive or negative ways? I can see how it worries the Gulf states, less so in other places.
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#20 Stesilaus
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[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

It is time shia and sunni put their minor differences behind and focused on the common enemy

Kcube

Lyke Amurikha right?

No.

Like Israel.

"Amurikha" is just Israel's little poodle, and our noble congressmen and congresswomen will perform any demeaning little trick in exchange for another doggy treat from AIPAC.

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[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

It is time shia and sunni put their minor differences behind and focused on the common enemy

Riverwolf007

lol, here is how that conversation would go.

"yay! we are united lets kill our common enemy!"

"who do we start with?"

"women!"

"science!"

anybody not us!"

"yay! we are agreed! who do we start with? the women?

"no! start with science! no start with everybody!"

"you will start with who i say to or i will kill you!!!!"

"shutup! i keel you!"

"no i keel you!"

*sounds of gunfire*

lol! honestly though I didn't find that funny

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#22 weezyfb
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by all ME states you mean just israel, who also have their own program
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[QUOTE="Kcube"][QUOTE="Harisemo"]

It is time shia and sunni put their minor differences behind and focused on the common enemy

Stesilaus

Lyke Amurikha right?

No.

Like Israel.

"Amurikha" is just Israel's little poodle, and our noble congressmen and congresswomen will perform any demeaning little trick in exchange for another doggy treat from AIPAC.

I don;t care for Israel in anyway but Harismio or w/e his name is likes to toss post grenades into threads and never back up what he is saying. CLick the mod button for that :P SOme of us have the conviction to stay around with some backbone and defend what we troll. Click again cause this is trolling/truth
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#24 Kcube
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by all ME states you mean just israel, who also have their own programweezyfb
Yeah pretty much.Israel can have nukes but nobody else can. TBH I would prefer nobody have nukes.
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#25 KC_Hokie
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Iran is getting nukes. They would be suicidal to use them though.
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#26 Harisemo
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[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

[QUOTE="Kcube"] Lyke Amurikha right?Kcube

No.

Like Israel.

"Amurikha" is just Israel's little poodle, and our noble congressmen and congresswomen will perform any demeaning little trick in exchange for another doggy treat from AIPAC.

I don;t care for Israel in anyway but Harismio or w/e his name is likes to toss post grenades into threads and never back up what he is saying. CLick the mod button for that :P SOme of us have the conviction to stay around with some backbone and defend what we troll. Click again cause this is trolling/truth

back what?

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#27 Kcube
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Iran is getting nukes. They would be suicidal to use them though.KC_Hokie
Indeed they would be wiped off the map..but most Iranians are awesome people.Its just a matter of time before the noobs running that country are kicked to the curb one way or another by the iranian people.
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#28 Kcube
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[QUOTE="Kcube"][QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

No.

Like Israel.

"Amurikha" is just Israel's little poodle, and our noble congressmen and congresswomen will perform any demeaning little trick in exchange for another doggy treat from AIPAC.

Harisemo

I don;t care for Israel in anyway but Harismio or w/e his name is likes to toss post grenades into threads and never back up what he is saying. CLick the mod button for that :P SOme of us have the conviction to stay around with some backbone and defend what we troll. Click again cause this is trolling/truth

back what?

You know what. You jump into ME threads to hint who the bad guy is then run off leaving people to fight about it. Hey I don't blame you for the opinion but at least find a better way to convey the message man.
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[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

Yeah, considering the scenario in which Iran is crazy enough to bomb Israel as well as the surrounding Arab countries the west have on Iran, its only natural to be against it.

Darkman2007

does Iran possessing nuclear weapons affect the Arab world from your perspective? and if so , in positive or negative ways? I can see how it worries the Gulf states, less so in other places.

If the Arab world would be affected, it would be in a negative way seeing how the Iranian government loves to meddle with other countries internal affairs.

The only reason the gulf states allow the US & friends to be in a heavy presence on the Persian gulf is to equalize the Iranian strong military and political influence.

The same influence which made Saddam lose it and go into war with Iran.

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Iran is getting nukes. They would be suicidal to use them though.Kcube
Indeed they would be wiped off the map..but most Iranians are awesome people.Its just a matter of time before the noobs running that country are kicked to the curb one way or another by the iranian people.

I think the current Iranian leaders want to be attacked before they get nukes. Helps them stay in power with their anti-US/Israel message.
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

Yeah, considering the scenario in which Iran is crazy enough to bomb Israel as well as the surrounding Arab countries the west have on Iran, its only natural to be against it.

TehFuneral

does Iran possessing nuclear weapons affect the Arab world from your perspective? and if so , in positive or negative ways? I can see how it worries the Gulf states, less so in other places.

If the Arab world would be affected, it would be in a negative way seeing how the Iranian government loves to meddle with other countries internal affairs.

The only reason the gulf states allow the US & friends to be in a heavy presence on the Persian gulf is to equalize the Iranian strong military and political influence.

The same influence which made Saddam lose it and go into war with Iran.

We only have bases in the Middle East because of oil. If it dried up tomorrow we would be gone.
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#32 m25105
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i would think that the second Iran gets a working nuke they will attack Israel with it. which pretty much means the US is instatly involved. WWIII?

GamingTitan

Yes, cause Iran is a bat **** crazy country and has no idea about self preservation and surely they would never think of getting a nuke cause of M.A.D. to ensure Israel doesn't get any ideas. Yup a country that hasn't attacked another country in 400 years is about to take over the middle east cause Israel says so, let's bomb them now and destroy thousands of families lives.

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#33 Harisemo
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You know what. You jump into ME threads to hint who the bad guy is then run off leaving people to fight about it. Hey I don't blame you for the opinion but at least find a better way to convey the message man.Kcube

bad guy is Israel if that's what you want to hear :? I simply give my opinion and don't want anyone to fight about it.

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#34 Kcube
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[QUOTE="Kcube"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Iran is getting nukes. They would be suicidal to use them though.KC_Hokie
Indeed they would be wiped off the map..but most Iranians are awesome people.Its just a matter of time before the noobs running that country are kicked to the curb one way or another by the iranian people.

I think the current Iranian leaders want to be attacked before they get nukes. Helps them stay in power with their anti-US/Israel message.

I'm sure you are right. I don't want Iran to be attacked..I have freinds there..Have also been there in the 90s. What the news shows you about them being crazy american/world haters is so far from the truth it isn't funny.
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#35 Harisemo
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[QUOTE="GamingTitan"]

i would think that the second Iran gets a working nuke they will attack Israel with it. which pretty much means the US is instatly involved. WWIII?

m25105

Yes, cause Iran is a bat **** crazy country and has no idea about self preservation and surely they would never think of getting a nuke cause of M.A.D. to ensure Israel doesn't get any ideas. Yup a country that hasn't attacked another country in 400 years is about to take over the middle east cause Israel says so, let's bomb them now and destroy thousands of families lives.

I agree this is baseless fearmongering

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#36 Harisemo
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Kcube"] Indeed they would be wiped off the map..but most Iranians are awesome people.Its just a matter of time before the noobs running that country are kicked to the curb one way or another by the iranian people.Kcube
I think the current Iranian leaders want to be attacked before they get nukes. Helps them stay in power with their anti-US/Israel message.

I'm sure you are right. I don't want Iran to be attacked..I have freinds there..Have also been there in the 90s. What the news shows you about them being crazy american/world haters is so far from the truth it isn't funny.

the same news that shows iran is itching to nuke israel

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[QUOTE="Kcube"] You know what. You jump into ME threads to hint who the bad guy is then run off leaving people to fight about it. Hey I don't blame you for the opinion but at least find a better way to convey the message man.Harisemo

bad guy is Israel if that's what you want to hear :? I simply give my opinion and don't want anyone to fight about it.

I thought you meant america...Not that you need to know but I came from the soviet to the USA so I have biased with USA :P I am sick of Israel and its policies..If they would lay down their arms the others would follow IMO...But then "palistine suicide bombs them anyways"...yeah not anyways....So much hate comes from something to create the hate. Sorry if that doesn't make sense man.
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Kcube"] Indeed they would be wiped off the map..but most Iranians are awesome people.Its just a matter of time before the noobs running that country are kicked to the curb one way or another by the iranian people.Kcube
I think the current Iranian leaders want to be attacked before they get nukes. Helps them stay in power with their anti-US/Israel message.

I'm sure you are right. I don't want Iran to be attacked..I have freinds there..Have also been there in the 90s. What the news shows you about them being crazy american/world haters is so far from the truth it isn't funny.

The only one that really seems to understand the sitaution is Ron Paul. The average GOP candidate wants to attack which helps keep the crazies in power.

The Obama administration wants more sanctions. Sanctions only hurt the average person as seen in Cuba and Iraq. They don't hurt the people in power.

Ron Paul would flood Iran with pro-USA propaganda and friendship. Like what we did with the USSR and Communist China.

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You know we laughed at the pro USA proganda in russia right? We would fall for it as fast as you do KF :P Yes I detect the sarcasm.
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We only have bases in the Middle East because of oil. If it dried up tomorrow we would be gone.KC_Hokie

Everyone is very well aware of that, but its a win - win situation so hardly anyone speaks about it.

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[QUOTE="Kcube"]You know we laughed at the pro USA proganda in russia right? We would fall for it as fast as you do KF :P Yes I detect the sarcasm.

It used to be called the Soviet Union. And the friendship method combined with propaganda worked. The KGB and other fear organizations within USSR didn't know how the hell to respond.
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]We only have bases in the Middle East because of oil. If it dried up tomorrow we would be gone.TehFuneral

Everyone is very well aware of that, but its a win - win situation so hardly anyone speaks about it.

I would argue it's a big loss for the U.S. We pay the bills for keeping the oil routes open while our leaders refuse to go after our large oil reserves. So we keep the oil prices down then our leaders argue we can't go after our own reserves because.....the prices are too low and it would be unprofitable.
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Iran is getting nukes. They would be suicidal to use them though.Kcube
Indeed they would be wiped off the map..but most Iranians are awesome people.Its just a matter of time before the noobs running that country are kicked to the curb one way or another by the iranian people.

I have to agree. I have still yet to meet an Iranian who supports the current Iranian government.

I don't know how the Iranian government constantly manage to silence the public which, regardless of religion, always seem to condemn their own goverment's policies.

The way I see it, its very obvious that the majority- way majority - of Iranians do not want their country to be in this current state, yet they cannot act.

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i would think that the second Iran gets a working nuke they will attack Israel with it. which pretty much means the US is instatly involved. WWIII?

GamingTitan

No. War with Iran.

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#45 Animatronic64
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[QUOTE="Kcube"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Iran is getting nukes. They would be suicidal to use them though.TehFuneral

Indeed they would be wiped off the map..but most Iranians are awesome people.Its just a matter of time before the noobs running that country are kicked to the curb one way or another by the iranian people.

I have to agree. I have still yet to meet an Iranian who supports with the current Iranian government.

I don't know how the Iranian governmentconstantly manage tosilence the public which, regardless of religion, condemn their own goverment's policies.

The way I see it, its very obvious that majority- way majority - of Iranians do not want their country to be in this current state, yet they cannot act.

Iranians are brainwashed into hating Israel. There's more people in the middle east who want to destroy Israel than you think.
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I always enjoy watching smaller and weaker countries defying imperialistic tyrants. I'm far away from it all, though.
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#47 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

Yeah, considering the scenario in which Iran is crazy enough to bomb Israel as well as the surrounding Arab countries the west have on Iran, its only natural to be against it.

TehFuneral

does Iran possessing nuclear weapons affect the Arab world from your perspective? and if so , in positive or negative ways? I can see how it worries the Gulf states, less so in other places.

If the Arab world would be affected, it would be in a negative way seeing how the Iranian government loves to meddle with other countries internal affairs.

The only reason the gulf states allow the US & friends to be in a heavy presence on the Persian gulf is to equalize the Iranian strong military and political influence.

The same influence which made Saddam lose it and go into war with Iran.

Id have to imagine a country like Bahrain would be more worried than most,. and Iranian influence in Iraq and Lebanon, is history that teaches (though obviously both are very different to the Gulf). so then , what is the suggested solution to the problem? diplomacy? sanctions? military? Im not sure the general Arab world would be too happy with an Israeli or US attack on Iran's nuclear facilities (though Id have to imagine some leaders would be secretly supportive of it, even if condemnig it in public)
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#48 m25105
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[QUOTE="Kcube"] Indeed they would be wiped off the map..but most Iranians are awesome people.Its just a matter of time before the noobs running that country are kicked to the curb one way or another by the iranian people.Animatronic64

I have to agree. I have still yet to meet an Iranian who supports with the current Iranian government.

I don't know how the Iranian governmentconstantly manage tosilence the public which, regardless of religion, condemn their own goverment's policies.

The way I see it, its very obvious that majority- way majority - of Iranians do not want their country to be in this current state, yet they cannot act.

Iranians are brainwashed into hating Israel. There's more people in the middle east who want to destroy Israel than you think.

And you know this because? Iran is getting demonised by the American media it seems so once the bombs starts dropping and families perish, people won't care about them cause apparently all Iranians are suicide bombers wanting to kill Israel and all Americans.
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#49 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

[QUOTE="Kcube"] Indeed they would be wiped off the map..but most Iranians are awesome people.Its just a matter of time before the noobs running that country are kicked to the curb one way or another by the iranian people.Animatronic64

I have to agree. I have still yet to meet an Iranian who supports with the current Iranian government.

I don't know how the Iranian governmentconstantly manage tosilence the public which, regardless of religion, condemn their own goverment's policies.

The way I see it, its very obvious that majority- way majority - of Iranians do not want their country to be in this current state, yet they cannot act.

Iranians are brainwashed into hating Israel. There's more people in the middle east who want to destroy Israel than you think.

well it depends , the way I see it, most Arabs have come to terms with the fact that wheter they like it or not, Israel is there and won't go away, not necessarily liking it, but knowing they kind of have to live with it.

of course there will always be the hardcore salafists and extremists who still cling on to the idea they can destroy the Jewish state, but who knows what percentage they account for, for all I know , they could be no more influential than neo nazis in Europe or the US

Im also aware , that there are enough of them who think that Israel is some monster of a state out to get them , and that all Jews in Israel are hardline zealots who despise Arabs , both of which would be untrue.

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#50 Animatronic64
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[QUOTE="Animatronic64"][QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

I have to agree. I have still yet to meet an Iranian who supports with the current Iranian government.

I don't know how the Iranian governmentconstantly manage tosilence the public which, regardless of religion, condemn their own goverment's policies.

The way I see it, its very obvious that majority- way majority - of Iranians do not want their country to be in this current state, yet they cannot act.

m25105

Iranians are brainwashed into hating Israel. There's more people in the middle east who want to destroy Israel than you think.

And you know this because? Iran is getting demonised by the American media it seems so once the bombs starts dropping and families perish, people won't care about them cause apparently all Iranians are suicide bombers wanting to kill Israel and all Americans.

It's a similar to phenomena to how many Americans hate and/or are fearful of Muslims.