Iran's Nuke Program has all Arab States in fear of it - LINK

[QUOTE="m25105"][QUOTE="Animatronic64"] Iranians are brainwashed into hating Israel. There's more people in the middle east who want to destroy Israel than you think. Animatronic64

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[QUOTE="m25105"] And you know this because? Iran is getting demonised by the American media it seems so once the bombs starts dropping and families perish, people won't care about them cause apparently all Iranians are suicide bombers wanting to kill Israel and all Americans. m25105

[QUOTE="m25105"][QUOTE="Animatronic64"] It's a similar to phenomena to how many Americans hate and/or are fearful of Muslims.

Animatronic64

[QUOTE="Animatronic64"][QUOTE="m25105"] Have you ever spoken to an Iranian? They're very intelligent people and in general most of the middle eastern people are concerned about the constant warmongering the U.S. and Israel spout out and the reason why the U.S. is hated is cause of the hypocrisy. American demands countries they don't like to become democracies, but has no problem keeping dictatorships alive as long as they're pro U.S. This notions that Muslims hate Americans for no reason other than then they're free and wealthy is preposterous and I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would believe that crap.m25105

[QUOTE="Kcube"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Iran is getting nukes. They would be suicidal to use them though.TehFuneral

I have to agree. I have still yet to meet an Iranian who supports the current Iranian government.

I don't know how the Iranian government constantly manage to silence the public which, regardless of religion, always seem to condemn their own goverment's policies.

The way I see it, its very obvious that the majority- way majority - of Iranians do not want their country to be in this current state, yet they cannot act.

contrary to western propaganda most iranians support the current government

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[QUOTE="Animatronic64"]Yeah, I guess mass burnings of American flags isn't a symbol of hate. Animatronic64

[QUOTE="Animatronic64"][QUOTE="m25105"] Have you ever spoken to an Iranian? They're very intelligent people and in general most of the middle eastern people are concerned about the constant warmongering the U.S. and Israel spout out and the reason why the U.S. is hated is cause of the hypocrisy. American demands countries they don't like to become democracies, but has no problem keeping dictatorships alive as long as they're pro U.S. This notions that Muslims hate Americans for no reason other than then they're free and wealthy is preposterous and I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would believe that crap.Darkman2007

well the question you have to ask is , who is being filmed? when? where? etc.

again , one could compare it to a neo nazi rally in Europe or in the US, if you were to see those and didn't know that most people in those places aren't actually like that, you might end up thinking that really is what people are thinking. hateful , extreme people exist everywhere.

of course I could be wrong,

Israel is the holy land, it is where Jesus Christ was born, it is where the good book originated, how can you condemn them??Senor-Dweedle

Israel is the holy land, it is where Jesus Christ was born, it is where the good book originated, how can you condemn them??Senor-Dweedle

Israel is the holy land, it is where Jesus Christ was born, it is where the good book originated, how can you condemn them??Senor-Dweedle

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HINT: its foxnews..... so no worries,its pure propaganda and to get higher rating which works too!

Chaos_HL21

I know it is cool to hate on Fox News, but this is kind of common sense. Iran is Persian and not Arab, and Shi'a and not Sunni. Those are two major reasons why they would fear Iran getting more powerful.

[QUOTE="Senor-Dweedle"]Israel is the holy land, it is where Jesus Christ was born, it is where the good book originated, how can you condemn them??Darkman2007

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Senor-Dweedle"]Israel is the holy land, it is where Jesus Christ was born, it is where the good book originated, how can you condemn them??Senor-Dweedle

it bugs me that the religions can't share the holy lands.

you guys are like little kids fighting over toys.

we should just take it away from you both and build a disneyland there.

Israel is the holy land, it is where Jesus Christ was born, it is where the good book originated, how can you condemn them??Senor-Dweedle

Yes, indeed. And the Zionist settlers just LOVE Jesus and Christianity. :roll:

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[QUOTE="Senor-Dweedle"]Israel is the holy land, it is where Jesus Christ was born, it is where the good book originated, how can you condemn them??Stesilaus

Yes, indeed. And the Zionist settlers just LOVE Jesus and Christianity. :roll:

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[QUOTE="Senor-Dweedle"]Israel is the holy land, it is where Jesus Christ was born, it is where the good book originated, how can you condemn them??Stesilaus

Yes, indeed. And the Zionist settlers just LOVE Jesus and Christianity. :roll:

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[QUOTE="Senor-Dweedle"]Israel is the holy land, it is where Jesus Christ was born, it is where the good book originated, how can you condemn them??Senor-Dweedle

Yes, indeed. And the Zionist settlers just LOVE Jesus and Christianity. :roll:

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[QUOTE="Senor-Dweedle"][QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

Yes, indeed. And the Zionist settlers just LOVE Jesus and Christianity. :roll:

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Darkman2007

Must be how NZ media portrays israel here then, we get the impression Israel Govt wants to invade Palestine every day and stuff, while the Israeli people are protesting demanding peace, it gets confusing.

Alot of us in NZ understand our media is useless and we rely on Fox, CNN, RT and BBC for proper news coverage lol..

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Senor-Dweedle"] Hmm, I see your point, Judas was jewish afterall, but my point is this, you cant let 1 rotten apple spoil the batch. Think of it this way, the Israeli Government is Judas, while its people are Jesus, you cannot bash all the people in Israel just because the Government are crazy. Does that make sense?Senor-Dweedle

Must be how NZ media portrays israel here then, we get the impression Israel Govt wants to invade Palestine every day and stuff, while the Israeli people are protesting demanding peace, it gets confusing.

Alot of us in NZ understand our media is useless and we rely on Fox, CNN, RT and BBC for proper news coverage lol..

I just want to add this ...

Rice: U.S. Should Do Everything Possible to Bring Down Iran's Government

If United States believes this.. then I think they are right, perhaps Iranian government needs to be removed.. its too dangerous.

Senor-Dweedle

I think it's the likes of Rice that needs to be removed.

Iran has no known nuclear program. In 2007 a National Intelligence Estimate, representing a consensus of all American spy agencies, concluded that Iran abandoned any such research and development as far back as 2003.

The new "evidence" of an Iranian nuclear weapons program that the IAEA will be presenting in the week ahead is fabricated nonsense.

It's right up there with the "mobile biological and chemical weapons laboratories" drivel that Colin Powell used to sell the Iraq invasion to the UN.

I don't believe Iran is going for nukes but if they are good for them. If other countries can have nukes so should Iran

I don't believe Iran is going for nukes but if they are good for them. If other countries can have nukes so should Iran

Harisemo

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I don't believe Iran is going for nukes but if they are good for them. If other countries can have nukes so should Iran

Senor-Dweedle

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I don't believe Iran is going for nukes but if they are good for them. If other countries can have nukes so should Iran

Senor-Dweedle

Iran wouldn't be trying to get nukes if everyone else didn't flaunt them all the time.Kcube

[QUOTE="Kcube"]Iran wouldn't be trying to get nukes if everyone else didn't flaunt them all the time.Senor-Dweedle

HINT: its foxnews..... so no worries,its pure propaganda and to get higher rating which works too!

punkpunker

[QUOTE="punkpunker"]

HINT: its foxnews..... so no worries,its pure propaganda and to get higher rating which works too!

lamprey263

Nothing wrong with Fox, they report pretty damn well

Senor-Dweedle

no they dont..

they pulled down a poll on their own website after ron paul was getting 30% more votes than the next person on the list (he was beatying everyone by 30%+) and then after they put it back up HE STILL WON

they are tabloid trash.. you want to learn something go watch e! im serious you will learn the same things their those idiots on fox will teach you. their lying propagandising piles of filth that should be THROWN OFF THE AIR

[QUOTE="lamprey263"][QUOTE="punkpunker"]

HINT: its foxnews..... so no worries,its pure propaganda and to get higher rating which works too!

Victorious_Fize

[QUOTE="punkpunker"]

HINT: its foxnews..... so no worries,its pure propaganda and to get higher rating which works too!

lamprey263

theyve changed quite a few ctually.. nearly all of them since bush took office.

[QUOTE="Senor-Dweedle"]

Nothing wrong with Fox, they report pretty damn well

ionusX

no they dont..

they pulled down a poll on their own website after ron paul was getting 30% more votes than the next person on the list (he was beatying everyone by 30%+) and then after they put it back up HE STILL WON

they are tabloid trash.. you want to learn something go watch e! im serious you will learn the same things their those idiots on fox will teach you. their lying propagandising piles of filth that should be THROWN OFF THE AIR

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="lamprey263"] it's an article from the Associate Press, many other news outlets post the same material, MSNBC posted this same article but under its original title, "Israel's warnings on Iran get quiet nods in Gulf"Darkman2007

indeed.. these countries were on the verge of revolution and itd make sense to common purpose everyone at a few mutually hated enemies rather than themselves in order to grip power.

regretably i doubt they wouldnt side with the guy with the bigger gun if it came down to armed conflict..

and i bet you anything if israel strikes iran syria and iran gonna gang beat them so bad itd hurt for the next 9 months..

and more importantly if that happens and the US gets INVOLVED then its a clear signal flag for the middle east to mvoe as 1 unit.. then you got problems.. ww3 grade problems. aggressor USA is all we need..

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="lamprey263"] it's an article from the Associate Press, many other news outlets post the same material, MSNBC posted this same article but under its original title, "Israel's warnings on Iran get quiet nods in Gulf"Darkman2007

I myself seek a peaceful Middle East of nuke-free zone with a fair and balanced superpower in charge (Turkey I say).

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] There we go. It's the GCC, the monarchists seeking to maintain their rule and competing for reputation... Why will anyone attempt to hail these ruling families to be a representation of the Arab world, much more, its own people? A better title would be: "GCC monarchists approve of Jewish-Shia scapegoat conflict"ionusX

indeed.. these countries were on the verge of revolution and itd make sense to common purpose everyone at a few mutually hated enemies rather than themselves in order to grip power.

regretably i doubt they wouldnt side with the guy with the bigger gun if it came down to armed conflict..

and i bet you anything if israel strikes iran syria and iran gonna gang beat them so bad itd hurt for the next 9 months..

and more importantly if that happens and the US gets INVOLVED then its a clear signal flag for the middle east to mvoe as 1 unit.. then you got problems.. ww3 grade problems. aggressor USA is all we need..

don't underestimate Israel or what it can do, the Iranians can't attack it directly, other than through Hezbollah , and Assad will think 100 times before lifting a finger against Israel , especially given his current situation. the only type of any meaningful attack Iran can have are missiles , but then Israel isn't exactly going to retaliate with sitcks and stones either.Darkman2007

you see thoguh no matter how you slice it if israel opens up especially AFTER their nuclear power facility is up and runningand they strike that more importantly then we have israel responsible for a humanitarian disaster on the same level as fukashima or chyrnoble or WORSE. its a real dilema.. and you will see alot of backlash form the rest of the middle east.. israel wouldnt stand a chance; support after the UN nuclear assessment for 2011 or not..

you blow up that reactor when its up next week.. and israel might as well start shading itself off the map. israel may have some of the ebst toys in the middle east to play with but against the rest of the M-E sub-continent.. no chance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvXajExtKao&feature=fvwrel

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]don't underestimate Israel or what it can do, the Iranians can't attack it directly, other than through Hezbollah , and Assad will think 100 times before lifting a finger against Israel , especially given his current situation. the only type of any meaningful attack Iran can have are missiles , but then Israel isn't exactly going to retaliate with sitcks and stones either.ionusX

you see thoguh no matter how you slice it if israel opens up especially AFTER their nuclear power facility is up and runningand they strike that more importantly then we have israel responsible for a humanitarian disaster on the same level as fukashima or chyrnoble or WORSE. its a real dilema.. and you will see alot of backlash form the rest of the middle east.. israel wouldnt stand a chance; support after the UN nuclear assessment for 2011 or not..

you blow up that reactor when its up next week.. and israel might as well start shading itself off the map. israel may have some of the ebst toys in the middle east to play with but against the rest of the M-E sub-continent.. no chance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvXajExtKao&feature=fvwrel

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]don't underestimate Israel or what it can do, the Iranians can't attack it directly, other than through Hezbollah , and Assad will think 100 times before lifting a finger against Israel , especially given his current situation. the only type of any meaningful attack Iran can have are missiles , but then Israel isn't exactly going to retaliate with sitcks and stones either.ionusX

you see thoguh no matter how you slice it if israel opens up especially AFTER their nuclear power facility is up and runningand they strike that more importantly then we have israel responsible for a humanitarian disaster on the same level as fukashima or chyrnoble or WORSE. its a real dilema.. and you will see alot of backlash form the rest of the middle east.. israel wouldnt stand a chance; support after the UN nuclear assessment for 2011 or not..

you blow up that reactor when its up next week.. and israel might as well start shading itself off the map. israel may have some of the ebst toys in the middle east to play with but against the rest of the M-E sub-continent.. no chance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvXajExtKao&feature=fvwrel

Israel's army is only second to the USA's army in terms of strength. They crushed Egypt's armies in a mere 6 days and could crush Syria in a few weeks tops. Iraq poses no threat to them anymore, nor does Afghanistan or Pakistan.

Pakistan will stay out of any conflict that arises due to their boarder with India.

These Arab States in fear wouldn't happen to be any of those that are in bed with the US or that have recently been "liberated" by the US & friends, would they? Nontheless, it'd be interesting to see the outcome of any kind of military actions towards Iran, as I think Russia had already warned the US in the past not to get involved with it's neighbor.

[QUOTE="Kcube"]Iran wouldn't be trying to get nukes if everyone else didn't flaunt them all the time.Senor-Dweedle

Nukes don't ensure peace.... they were built for destruction.

One day somebody probably will launch a nuke and I'd bet money it will be in the name/or defense of some religion.

Why would a non-beliving country use a nuke? I can think of a couple reasons why a fanatical country would.