Is America really full of gangs and violence?

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#1 stevoqwerty
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I've been watch alot of American gang docs and shows like Gangland, and they emphasis the gangs like they were everywhere, I mean 100,000 gang members in LA, you got to be joking.

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#2 optiow
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Yep, it is indeed. They have 25% of the worlds convicts, and they are swarming with gangs because of the capitalist system of inequality.
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#3 Barbariser
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America's full of a lot of things.

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#4 deactivated-6016f2513d412
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Lol... Maybe in 'rough' areas there are a lot of gangs, but trust me, the entire country is not swarming with gang members and violence. I live in North Dakota. There were only 10 homicides in the state in the entire last year. Two years before, there were only four homicides in the entire state in the entire year. I live in the biggest city in the state, and I frequently leave my house late at night - often alone - and feel 100% safe.
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#7 Saturos3091
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Yep, it is indeed. They have 25% of the worlds convicts, and they are swarming with gangs because of the capitalist system of inequality. optiow
I laughed. Gangland isn't the best source for that information. There are large gangs sure, but the actual threat they represent isn't exactly huge. Most deal in victimless crimes, and even then there's not gangs *everywhere.*
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#8 Whatuptho
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most of the gangs featured in Gangland arent even huge gangs

ive never heard of 80% of them and i live in L.A.

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[QUOTE="ExGabu"]

I'm dodging gunfire as I type this.

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Dude, I'm sorry I wore a red bandana to McDonalds that one time. I am in no way affiliated with Nuestra, okay? STOP SENDING HIT MEN PLEASE.
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#10 Treflis
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I doubt they are "everywhere", Rural towns in the middle of seemingly nowhere isn't likely to have a gang in it, But the major cities are pretty much certain to have two or more gangs. And it isn't just in the US, Europe, South America and Asia have gangs aswell, or Organized crime syndicates/groups.
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#11 stevoqwerty
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I doubt they are "everywhere", Rural towns in the middle of seemingly nowhere isn't likely to have a gang in it, But the major cities are pretty much certain to have two or more gangs. And it isn't just in the US, Europe, South America and Asia have gangs aswell, or Organized crime syndicates/groups.Treflis

Ya I know, I also heard this American guy said that there's about 120 million gang members in US, is he crazy?

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Yep, it is indeed. They have 25% of the worlds convicts, and they are swarming with gangs because of the capitalist system of inequality. optiow

oh silly you >_>.

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I'm dodging gunfire as I type this.

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#14 Whatuptho
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[QUOTE="Treflis"]I doubt they are "everywhere", Rural towns in the middle of seemingly nowhere isn't likely to have a gang in it, But the major cities are pretty much certain to have two or more gangs. And it isn't just in the US, Europe, South America and Asia have gangs aswell, or Organized crime syndicates/groups.stevoqwerty

Ya I know, I also heard this American guy said that there's about 120 million gang members in US, is he crazy?

there may in fact be 120 million members

but that doesnt mean that theyre all commiting crimes simultaneously on a daily basis (its not as bad as it was in the early 90's)

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It truly is the Wild West.

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#16 Antitheist-
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there may in fact be 120 million members

but that doesnt mean that theyre all commiting crimes simultaneously on a daily basis (its not as bad as it was in the early 90's)

Whatuptho

So a third of Americans are affiliated with some gang? I had a feeling my dad was tied to the Mongols:o.

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#17 Whatuptho
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[QUOTE="Whatuptho"]

there may in fact be 120 million members

but that doesnt mean that theyre all commiting crimes simultaneously on a daily basis (its not as bad as it was in the early 90's)

Antitheist-

So a third of Americans are affiliated with some gang? I had a feeling my dad was tied to the Mongols:o.

i dont think the 120 million thing is true

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#18 xLFTMx
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I have yet to go out for bread and not be raped. Its terrifying here.

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#19 stevoqwerty
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That's it! You know what, I'm gonna move to America one day and live in Compton helping troubled kids get back to their feet, I am willing to die to help them, no joke.

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I have yet to go out for bread and not be raped. Its terrifying here.

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#21 Wii4Fun
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America isn't the worst. It isn't even inthe top 10 mafia list (Except the Mexican Mafia). http://myamazingfact.blogspot.com/2010/01/top-10-biggest-mafias-around-world.htmlThis list isn't 100% accurate by the way.

Plus the gangs are usually in a certain area, not all over the country.

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Yep, it is indeed. They have 25% of the worlds convicts, and they are swarming with gangs because of the capitalist system of inequality. optiow
and here i thought most of that was because of unjust laws such as prohibition....
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I have yet to go out for bread and not be raped. Its terrifying here.

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every time i go outside its for a loaf of bread and a rape. *hands card* gimmy a call
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#24 weezyfb
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we have drive-by's every day
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#25 killerfist
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It's a big country with many big cities, so obviously there are more gang related crimes. I think when you put it in perspective, it's not going to be much worse than other countries.
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#26 AtlanticRock
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-Brooklyn, NYC.-

Aside from robberies, grand theft, and club shootings - it's been pretty tame the last couple of years.
Christmas just passed and about 4 people I know had loved ones robbed at knife/gunpoint.

It used to be more dangerous here, now yuppies and tourist can walk freely through the streets like they're in Manhattan SMH.

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#27 Crimsader
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Yes, it is. Unfortunately it's not the only one.
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#28 Zyrokin
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we have drive-by's every dayweezyfb

Are you sure it isn't we go to drive-thrus every day, and that is why we are obese and in gangs?

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#29 bebopoutlaw3gun
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No. It's not like that. I've lived in either Dayton or Cincinnati for most of my life. For as long as I can remember they've both been showing up on "Most Dangerous Cities" lists. Yeah, theres a lot of crime. There's gang activity. LOTS of drugs.

But for the most part if you mind your business everyone else minds theirs. You just have to watch out. I guess that could be hard though if you don't know what to look for.

Actually the more I think about it the worse this place is. :lol:

I've watched Gangland and they make it look like everyone is in a gang and if you're not in a gang you're probably going to find yourself in the middle of a drive by at the grocery store. It's not like that.

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#30 Crunchy_Nuts
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Every time someone mentions gangs, I always think of this.
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#31 LJS9502_basic
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No it's not. Why would you believe Hollywood has anything right?
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#32 deactivated-59d151f079814
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The United States is some 300 million people.. It would not be fair to compare it to any one nation in Europe.. Furthermore there are far worse problems of gangs in other nations in the world.. Mexico and the Phillipines come to mind.
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No it's not. Why would you believe Hollywood has anything right?LJS9502_basic

Hmmm.. Ganglands is not a Hollywood production from what I know, it was aired on the history channel for crying out loud. The United States does have a gang problem, but so do most countries.. I would say we are probably the worse of first world countries no where the worse in countries overall.

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#34 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]No it's not. Why would you believe Hollywood has anything right?sSubZerOo

Hmmm.. Ganglands is not a Hollywood production from what I know, it was aired on the history channel for crying out loud. The United States does have a gang problem, but so do most countries.. I would say we are probably the worse of first world countries no where the worse in countries overall.

It's still the American media.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]No it's not. Why would you believe Hollywood has anything right?sSubZerOo

Hmmm.. Ganglands is not a Hollywood production from what I know, it was aired on the history channel for crying out loud. The United States does have a gang problem, but so do most countries.. I would say we are probably the worse of first world countries no where the worse in countries overall.

Well soon the gangs would takeover America and there's no Batman, so basically they're screwed in so many ways.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]No it's not. Why would you believe Hollywood has anything right?stevoqwerty

Hmmm.. Ganglands is not a Hollywood production from what I know, it was aired on the history channel for crying out loud. The United States does have a gang problem, but so do most countries.. I would say we are probably the worse of first world countries no where the worse in countries overall.

Well soon the gangs would takeover America and there's no Batman, so basically they're screwed in so many ways.

There have always been gangs in history.....never took over the country though.
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[QUOTE="stevoqwerty"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Hmmm.. Ganglands is not a Hollywood production from what I know, it was aired on the history channel for crying out loud. The United States does have a gang problem, but so do most countries.. I would say we are probably the worse of first world countries no where the worse in countries overall.

LJS9502_basic

Well soon the gangs would takeover America and there's no Batman, so basically they're screwed in so many ways.

There have always been gangs in history.....never took over the country though.

And this is the US, not some third world country where a coup is possible.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="stevoqwerty"]

Well soon the gangs would takeover America and there's no Batman, so basically they're screwed in so many ways.

AtlanticRock

There have always been gangs in history.....never took over the country though.

And this is the US, not some third world country where a coup is possible.

Most third world countries are ruled by gangs, their governments are gangs. Hmmm, maybe the same could be said for all countries.

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#39 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="AtlanticRock"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] There have always been gangs in history.....never took over the country though.Zyrokin

And this is the US, not some third world country where a coup is possible.

Most third world countries are ruled by gangs, their governments are gangs. Hmmm, maybe the same could be said for all countries.

I don't think so. When a gang is in control the people can't vote out the leaders.....
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[QUOTE="Zyrokin"]

[QUOTE="AtlanticRock"]

And this is the US, not some third world country where a coup is possible.

LJS9502_basic

Most third world countries are ruled by gangs, their governments are gangs. Hmmm, maybe the same could be said for all countries.

I don't think so. When a gang is in control the people can't vote out the leaders.....

Unless they only give you the illusion that you are voting out the leaders, when in reality the leaders are just puppets of the gangs and figure heads that they choose to lead the country.

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#41 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Zyrokin"]

Most third world countries are ruled by gangs, their governments are gangs. Hmmm, maybe the same could be said for all countries.

Zyrokin

I don't think so. When a gang is in control the people can't vote out the leaders.....

Unless they only give you the illusion that you are voting out the leaders, when in reality the leaders are just puppets of the gangs and figure heads that they choose to lead the country.

Illusion can't be kept for long......and conspiracies don't exist to the extents that people believe they do.
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#42 Zyrokin
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[QUOTE="Zyrokin"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I don't think so. When a gang is in control the people can't vote out the leaders.....LJS9502_basic

Unless they only give you the illusion that you are voting out the leaders, when in reality the leaders are just puppets of the gangs and figure heads that they choose to lead the country.

Illusion can't be kept for long......and conspiracies don't exist to the extents that people believe they do.

Maybe, but it is still possible. I don't really believe any conspiracies, I just think its fun to make em up. I figure its plausible.

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Can't post - gotta meet up with my gang to violence.

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[QUOTE="Antitheist-"]

[QUOTE="Whatuptho"]

there may in fact be 120 million members

but that doesnt mean that theyre all commiting crimes simultaneously on a daily basis (its not as bad as it was in the early 90's)

Whatuptho

So a third of Americans are affiliated with some gang? I had a feeling my dad was tied to the Mongols:o.

i dont think the 120 million thing is true


That's the joke.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]No it's not. Why would you believe Hollywood has anything right?sSubZerOo

Hmmm.. Ganglands is not a Hollywood production from what I know, it was aired on the history channel for crying out loud.

That's probably WORSE than being a Hollywood production, considering said channel's lineup consists of a dozen Nostradamus Theory shows and a bunch of reality show crap about trucking and logging....

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Thank the legal handguns.
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#48 Verge_6
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Thank the legal handguns.pspdseagle
Yeah, that's the only factor at play here. Everyone knows that the mere presence of those EVUL guns makes people resort to violence and senseless bloodshed. Things like long-standing feuds, drugs, ghettos etc. etc. have NO part in it. It's all about the guns. Well done, sir.

You can really tell which posters are from actual troubled spots. :roll:

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Yep, it is indeed. They have 25% of the worlds convicts, and they are swarming with gangs because of the capitalist system of inequality. optiow

wow, talk about exageration.

1. No, we are not swarming with gangs. THere are just areas with a high ratio of gang members. You will not get shot if you come to America unless youre an idiot and go to the wrong area. And just stay out of LA lol, I dont know why anyone would live there outside of professional reasons

2. What is capitalism lacking in the equality department? Its pretty fair; it rewards hard work, punishes slackers, and rewards/penalizes risk greatly. It just gets abused quite frequently by the very rich.

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Gotta love ignorant posts by foreigners.