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#51 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]

[QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]firebreathing

it would care if he was muslim because he might be a terrorist (not saying that all muslims are, most probably are not). Could you Imagine this headline " President Barack Obama admits to being a Muslim at his inauguration address then blows himself up". that would just be terrible if the president blew himself up at the inaugural address killing his whole entire cabinet and any innocent bystanders.

I can not believe what I have just read and Muslims are the only "terrorists".

yea, i guess the oklahoma city bomber was muslim after all >____>

Don't forget Columbine. And Virginia Tech. And SIU.

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[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="whipassmt"]

He says he isn't. Anyway Barack Hussein Obama does sound like a muslim name. Also he had a Muslim stepdad and lived with him in Indonesia. He also is endorsed by Nation of Islam leader (and anti-semite, and racist) Louis Farakhan

Dreams-Visions

He publicly denounced Farakhan's endorsement of him.

well he pretty much had to or else he wouldn't get elected. but Hillary would make a much better president than him, all her and Bill did for the party and now the party is betraying her.

And can you show me solid proof that the only reason he denounced Farakhan was to garner votes? I remember that he denounced Farakhan when Hillary Clinton was whining to him in a debate that he hadn't denounced him. Obama said (during the debate) something along the lines of "Ok... I denounce him now", and made Clinton look like a petty fool.

As far as policy goes, Obama and Clinton are not that much different, so it is rather hard to tell who would make a better leader.

More details on that exchange:

Chris Matthews asked him about the Frarrakahn endorsement and if he denounced it. Obama said, that he did denounced it, and that he did not seek his endorsement anyway...that he's found many of Frarrakahn's comments completely wrong and that he can't control those who endorse him really...and that he's a strong supporter of the Jewish community.

Hillary decided to chime in saying that to "denounce" him isn't enough and that he has to "reject" him. The audience booded at Hillary.

Obama said, well...I don't really see a difference between "denouncing" and "rejecting", but if you feel there's a difference, then I'll conceed the point...and I'll "denounce AND reject". The audience applauds for him winning the point.

She nodded and they moved on.

Yeah, that was the exact quote.
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#53 -TheSecondSign-
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I don't care if he is or isn't Muslim. He could be a French Canadian homosexual and I wouldn't care. It doesn't affect me.

I won't vote for him anyway, Christian or no. Who cares?

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#54 Dreams-Visions
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Who cares?

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If people didn't, it wouldn't be a constant issue dogging him. Most people are ignorant. Most people are uninvolved in the political process. More people know little about the candidates (if you went out on the street and asked people to name 1 accomplishment Clinton, Obama or McCain can claim in their years of public service, people would fail).

When you have that kind of wide-spread ignorance, coupled with a middle name known by most Americans only in association with Saddam, you have a recipie for Americans to embarass themselves with.

And they don't let us down.

A quick visit to Fox News.com's comments left on Obama stories tells the whole story of how pathetic many of us Americans are.

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[QUOTE="1stCommando"]He use to be Muslim, but converted to Christianity when he got involved in politics years ago.whipassmt
wow you make it sound like he converted for political reasons (i wouldn't put it past him). Oh crap, what if he is an al Qaida agent who is trying to undermine the U.S. from within, if you look at his policies like invading Pakistan (which would inflame the whole muslim world and put our forces in a quagmire) it seems like he might very well be an enemy agent. Who was the Congressmen that said if Barak won the terrorists would be dancing in the streets.

..........You should stop. I'm not sure what Barack Obama is, but I don't think saying mean things about him will make things better.
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#57 killer_is_me
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No he's Christian.
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#58 bman784
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You sir are woefully misinformed. All of the "Obama is a terrorist Muslim" insinuation is the most pathetic thing I've heard in a long time. It's not just because of the fact that I support Obama, but because some members the American public are actually ignorant enough to imply that being a Muslim (which he isn't) is automatically a negative trait which ergo makes you a terrorist:roll: It's things like these that make me ashamed to be an American at times.
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]whipassmt
it would care if he was muslim because he might be a terrorist (not saying that all muslims are, most probably are not). Could you Imagine this headline " President Barack Obama admits to being a Muslim at his inauguration address then blows himself up". that would just be terrible if the president blew himself up at the inaugural address killing his whole entire cabinet and any innocent bystanders.

wow....science can really learn something from somebody this stupid.

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Used to be, i think.
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#61 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"] There are more Muslims in the world than Christians by a large margain. - really last time i checked there was 1 billion Muslims and 2 billion Christians.Dreams-Visions

looks like you're are correct. But the point still remains. 1.5 billion Muslims make the point obvious that only a extremely small fraction (on the order of hundreds...out of BILLIONS) are radical terorrists.

Sorry that this is off-topic but...

Look! Proof that atheism isn't a religion! Look! It's under the NONRELIGIOUS section! omg! I was right!

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You sir are woefully misinformed. All of the "Obama is a terrorist Muslim" insinuation is the most pathetic thing I've heard in a long time. It's not just because of the fact that I support Obama, but because some members the American public are actually ignorant enough to imply that being a Muslim (which he isn't) is automatically a negative trait which ergo makes you a terrorist:roll: It's things like these that make me ashamed to be an American at times.
bman784

Sadly, many Americans who aren't following the poltiical race are as uninformed as the OP is. But they're to Politically-Correct to say so, and as such can't be corrected.

Used to be, i think.123625

Nope. He was Athiest, then was introduced to Christ.

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This thread made my IQ drop

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#64 Dreams-Visions
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This thread made my IQ drop

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I can't disagree with that.
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#65 btaylor2404
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No, he says he's a christian, believe his father was Islamic. Doesn't matter to me.
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#66 Dreams-Visions
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No, he says he's a christian, believe his father was Islamic. Doesn't matter to me. btaylor2404
you are correct.
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He says he isn't. Anyway Barack Hussein Obama does sound like a muslim name. Also he had a Muslim stepdad and lived with him in Indonesia. He also is endorsed by Nation of Islam leader (and anti-semite, and racist) Louis Farakhan who once called Jews "blood suckers". But i don't see any proof so i'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I say he is not a muslim, but he is a left wing liberal and a bit of an idiot. I mean he actually said he would withdraw from Iraq and then send the troops back if al Qaeda started setting up safe havens in Iraq, but isn't al Qaida already in Iraq (when McCain used this argument Obama's response was to blame their presence on Bush and the Iraq war, but it really sounded to me like an admission that al Qaida was there). Oh boy, i can see our future: 2009- Soldiers leave Iraq 2010- Soldiers go back to Iraq 2011- Soldiers withdraw again 2012- soldiers go back. 2013- This jerk is replaced by a competent president.

whipassmt

Even if Obama was a muslim, there is nothing wrong with being a muslim.:roll:

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#68 -TheSecondSign-
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[QUOTE="-TheSecondSign-"]

Who cares?

Dreams-Visions

If people didn't, it wouldn't be a constant issue dogging him. Most people are ignorant. Most people are uninvolved in the political process. More people know little about the candidates (if you went out on the street and asked people to name 1 accomplishment Clinton, Obama or McCain can claim in their years of public service, people would fail).

When you have that kind of wide-spread ignorance, coupled with a middle name known by most Americans only in association with Saddam, you have a recipie for Americans to embarass themselves with.

And they don't let us down.

A quick visit to Fox News.com's comments left on Obama stories tells the whole story of how pathetic many of us Americans are.

[/QUOTE

It doesn't really bother me. Amazingly, despite all that, we are still far, far, FAR from the dumbest or even most crime infested country on the planet.

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#69 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

He says he isn't. Anyway Barack Hussein Obama does sound like a muslim name. Also he had a Muslim stepdad and lived with him in Indonesia. He also is endorsed by Nation of Islam leader (and anti-semite, and racist) Louis Farakhan who once called Jews "blood suckers". But i don't see any proof so i'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I say he is not a muslim, but he is a left wing liberal and a bit of an idiot. I mean he actually said he would withdraw from Iraq and then send the troops back if al Qaeda started setting up safe havens in Iraq, but isn't al Qaida already in Iraq (when McCain used this argument Obama's response was to blame their presence on Bush and the Iraq war, but it really sounded to me like an admission that al Qaida was there). Oh boy, i can see our future: 2009- Soldiers leave Iraq 2010- Soldiers go back to Iraq 2011- Soldiers withdraw again 2012- soldiers go back. 2013- This jerk is replaced by a competent president.

Jak-25

Even if Obama was a muslim, there is nothing wrong with being a muslim.:roll:

Exactly, but there are still many people in this country that think there IS something wrong with being a muslim. I think thats messed up...

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#70 Raged-wolverine
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his ancestors were muslim...but he's not..
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#71 Jak-25
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[QUOTE="Jak-25"][QUOTE="whipassmt"]

He says he isn't. Anyway Barack Hussein Obama does sound like a muslim name. Also he had a Muslim stepdad and lived with him in Indonesia. He also is endorsed by Nation of Islam leader (and anti-semite, and racist) Louis Farakhan who once called Jews "blood suckers". But i don't see any proof so i'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I say he is not a muslim, but he is a left wing liberal and a bit of an idiot. I mean he actually said he would withdraw from Iraq and then send the troops back if al Qaeda started setting up safe havens in Iraq, but isn't al Qaida already in Iraq (when McCain used this argument Obama's response was to blame their presence on Bush and the Iraq war, but it really sounded to me like an admission that al Qaida was there). Oh boy, i can see our future: 2009- Soldiers leave Iraq 2010- Soldiers go back to Iraq 2011- Soldiers withdraw again 2012- soldiers go back. 2013- This jerk is replaced by a competent president.

Rikusaki

Even if Obama was a muslim, there is nothing wrong with being a muslim.:roll:

Exactly, but there are still many people in this country that think there IS something wrong with being a muslim. I think thats messed up...

I agree with you.:)

There is nothing wrong with being a muslim.

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#72 -TheSecondSign-
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[QUOTE="Jak-25"][QUOTE="whipassmt"]

He says he isn't. Anyway Barack Hussein Obama does sound like a muslim name. Also he had a Muslim stepdad and lived with him in Indonesia. He also is endorsed by Nation of Islam leader (and anti-semite, and racist) Louis Farakhan who once called Jews "blood suckers". But i don't see any proof so i'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I say he is not a muslim, but he is a left wing liberal and a bit of an idiot. I mean he actually said he would withdraw from Iraq and then send the troops back if al Qaeda started setting up safe havens in Iraq, but isn't al Qaida already in Iraq (when McCain used this argument Obama's response was to blame their presence on Bush and the Iraq war, but it really sounded to me like an admission that al Qaida was there). Oh boy, i can see our future: 2009- Soldiers leave Iraq 2010- Soldiers go back to Iraq 2011- Soldiers withdraw again 2012- soldiers go back. 2013- This jerk is replaced by a competent president.

Rikusaki

Even if Obama was a muslim, there is nothing wrong with being a muslim.:roll:

Exactly, but there are still many people in this country that think there IS something wrong with being a muslim. I think thats messed up...

You get used to it.

I don't pay much attention to the political world, because as hard as you try, I've realized you're never absolutely correct. I vote and love the freedoms of my country, but I can't say I'm a big time political activist.

Take that how you want.

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#73 CuDDKiDD
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Even if he was, what the hell would it matter?
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#74 sovereign_22
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no, hes christian, and even if he was, what difference does it make? not every damn muslim is a terrorist, watch some ****ing tv for gods sake and see what its like in non-extremist countries like lebanon or isreal and youll see that islam is probebly the most casual and well-rounded of all the major religions (christianity, judaism, ect)
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#75 Hydrolex
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Don't forget

Hitler was christian

Obama sounds like a Muslem and Muslims have the best religion in the world. If Christians say beer is ok, muslims say NO ! and you can see the results.

and in my mind people like Hitler or KKK want to ruin Christian.

and like OSama.

They aint no muslim or christian. They want to make fights between religions. All religions say PEACE

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#76 Rikusaki
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Even if he was, what the hell would it matter?CuDDKiDD

If he was muslim, he wouldn't have a good chance of being president. It's a sad country we live in... We need to change the way we look at people who are different than us. We should stop fearing them and start accepting them.

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[QUOTE="CuDDKiDD"]Even if he was, what the hell would it matter?Rikusaki

If he was muslim, he wouldn't have a good chance of being president. It's a sad country we live in... We need to change the way we look at people who are different than us. We should stop fearing them and start accepting them.

I refuse to accept liberals and socialists....

Either way, Obama isn't a muslim. Nor is he a Christian. He's an atheist.

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I, as a Christian, could care less about the religion of my president. I think that a separation of church and state is really important. If Barack were to be a Muslim or not, it wouldn't change my opinion of him.RoyTheViking

Agreed. People's religions should not matter in politics. Even if Obama were Muslim, that wouldn't affect my support for him.

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#79 ninjacat11
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

He didn't denounce the Ku Klux Klan's endorsement, though. I guess he's actually a White Supremacist!

I can see it now! He goes up to take the oath of office...only to take off his black-skinned mask (a-la Mission Impossible 2) to reveal a shaved white head with a Nazi tattoo! And his KKK brothers ride down Pennsylvania Ave. in white sheets on horseback waving the Confederate Flag! ZOMG!!!

It's just as plausable as whipassmt's ideas. :?

Cerussite

He probably couldn't believe he was being endorsed by the KKK in the first place.

You're right. He couldn't, because the KKK never endorsed Obama. That is a parody article, I think.

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[QUOTE="Cerussite"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

He didn't denounce the Ku Klux Klan's endorsement, though. I guess he's actually a White Supremacist!

I can see it now! He goes up to take the oath of office...only to take off his black-skinned mask (a-la Mission Impossible 2) to reveal a shaved white head with a Nazi tattoo! And his KKK brothers ride down Pennsylvania Ave. in white sheets on horseback waving the Confederate Flag! ZOMG!!!

It's just as plausable as whipassmt's ideas. :?

ninjacat11

He probably couldn't believe he was being endorsed by the KKK in the first place.

You're right. He couldn't, because the KKK never endorsed Obama. That is a parody article, I think.

it was. But it was funny. and the point remains.

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#81 Dreams-Visions
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Don't forget

Hitler was christian

Obama sounds like a Muslem and Muslims have the best religion in the world. If Christians say beer is ok, muslims say NO ! and you can see the results.

and in my mind people like Hitler or KKK want to ruin Christian.

and like OSama.

They aint no muslim or christian. They want to make fights between religions. All religions say PEACE Hydrolex

This post weakened my IQ. I don't understand it at all.

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[QUOTE="KG86"]Would it matter if he was?JRoss17
To the majority of Americans it would

You mean the majority of the idiotic Americans would care.

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#83 Bgrngod
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Obama is actually Tom Cruise in disguise doing his best "acting".

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#84 Pearl_of_Egypt
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I have Muhammed as part of my last name but I'm Christian. don't judge by names alone.
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I believe he was but he converted. nintendorocks

He was originally an athiest but converted to christianity. He's been a member of the trinity church for over 20 years.

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It shouldn't matter whether he is or not. The government of the United States is completely secular in nature.
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#87 ThaSod
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Why is there this sudden outpouring of animosity toward Obama?

Just because he is popular?

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#88 nazrulhaique
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Well Hussein is a muslim name and Obama=Osama lol XD

But ya hes christ

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#89 rimnet00
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Yes, Sheik Obama will bring our country Sharia Law in the near future.
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#90 Video_Game_King
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The relevance being.....*looks at watch, ticking*....waiting...
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#91 Thechaninator
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Does his religious beliefs really matter? no.

As long as his beliefs don't slip into his decisions, then I could care less if he is a freaking scientologist....

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#92 CommanderShiro
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This is one of the stupidest topics so far this year. The ignorance in this thread. And some of you wonder why Muslims hate America?
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This is one of the stupidest topics so far this year. The ignorance in this thread. And some of you wonder why Muslims hate America?CommanderShiro

That wording kinda destroys your point. I think you mean "Muslim/Arab (hey, its pretty much the Middle East with this stuff) Extremist".

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#94 CommanderShiro
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[QUOTE="CommanderShiro"]This is one of the stupidest topics so far this year. The ignorance in this thread. And some of you wonder why Muslims hate America?Video_Game_King

That wording kinda destroys your point. I think you mean "Muslim/Arab (hey, its pretty much the Middle East with this stuff) Extremist".

Yeah thats kinda my bad. I forgot to put the word Extremists at the end.
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#95 TallicaFan2005
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What would it matter? He'd be the best candidate if he worshipped aliens.... Seperation of church and state.
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#96 freshgman
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I dont care if he was or is.