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It's a cake, pies have savoury pastry that encloses the whole pie, tarts are pies that are open and lots of cakes have bases made out of crumbed biscuits.
bean-with-bacon
Great, another topic in OT that makes me hungry >__> I say cake because it looks more like a cake then a pieKenny789
Its neither, its a cheesecake.mattyftm
Proof that OT in fact DOESN'T read posts. I posted a link right before these answers.
How does it look like a cake? It looks like a pie and if you read the link...you'd see it's a pie.:roll:
[QUOTE="bean-with-bacon"]It's a cake, pies have savoury pastry that encloses the whole pie, tarts are pies that are open and lots of cakes have bases made out of crumbed biscuits.
LJS9502_basic
Great, another topic in OT that makes me hungry >__> I say cake because it looks more like a cake then a pieKenny789
Its neither, its a cheesecake.mattyftm
Proof that OT in fact DOESN'T read posts.
How does it look like a cake? It looks like a pie and if you read the link...you'd see it's a pie.:roll:
Yes, I know it's been proven that it's a pie but where I live, it looks more like a cake than a pie. What can I do about that?[QUOTE="bean-with-bacon"]It's a cake, pies have savoury pastry that encloses the whole pie, tarts are pies that are open and lots of cakes have bases made out of crumbed biscuits.
LJS9502_basic
Great, another topic in OT that makes me hungry >__> I say cake because it looks more like a cake then a pieKenny789
Its neither, its a cheesecake.mattyftm
Proof that OT in fact DOESN'T read posts. I posted a link right before these answers.
How does it look like a cake? It looks like a pie and if you read the link...you'd see it's a pie.:roll:
it looks nothing like neither!
this is a pie:
this is a cake:
cheesecake looks like neither
[QUOTE="bean-with-bacon"]It's a cake, pies have savoury pastry that encloses the whole pie, tarts are pies that are open and lots of cakes have bases made out of crumbed biscuits.
LJS9502_basic
Great, another topic in OT that makes me hungry >__> I say cake because it looks more like a cake then a pieKenny789
Its neither, its a cheesecake.mattyftm
Proof that OT in fact DOESN'T read posts. I posted a link right before these answers.
How does it look like a cake? It looks like a pie and if you read the link...you'd see it's a pie.:roll:
No, I read your link, I just don't consider it a cake or a pie. I consider it a completely diferent thing.
No, I read your link, I just don't consider it a cake or a pie. I consider it a completely diferent thing.
mattyftm
Doesn't matter. You don't get to arbitrarily decide against facts.
[QUOTE="mattyftm"]No, I read your link, I just don't consider it a cake or a pie. I consider it a completely diferent thing.
LJS9502_basic
Doesn't matter. You don't get to arbitrarily decide against facts.
Pie = An article of food consisting of paste baked with something in it or under it; as, chicken pie; venison pie; mince pie; apple pie; pumpkin pie.
Last time I had cheesecake it most definately wasn't baked.
[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"] LJS9502_basicThere are many pies that don't have a top crust. ;)
Yeah, they're called tarts...
There are many pies that don't have a top crust. ;)[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"] bean-with-bacon
Yeah, they're called tarts...
Banana cream pie, coconut cream pie....chocolate pie. Etc you get the point.
[QUOTE="bean-with-bacon"]There are many pies that don't have a top crust. ;)[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"] LJS9502_basic
Yeah, they're called tarts...
Banana cream pie, coconut cream pie....chocolate pie. Etc you get the point.
Yeah they're tarts, Americans just decided to put pie in the name, I will consent to cheesecake perhaps being a tart but it is most definately not a pie.
[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"] LJS9502_basicThere are many pies that don't have a top crust. ;)
a pie without a top crust is called a tart. you americans and your baked goods... i guess there's so many out there that they can only be put into either the pie or cake category. bless :oops:
Yeah they're tarts, Americans just decided to put pie in the name, I will consent to cheesecake perhaps being a tart but it is most definately not a pie.
bean-with-bacon
This article may interest you then. Seems a tart is a type of pie. Oops...
There are many pies that don't have a top crust. ;)[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"] my_name_is_ron
a pie without a top crust is called a tart. you americans and your baked goods... i guess there's so many out there that they can only be put into either the pie or cake category. bless :oops:
Yes....a pie. Self ownage?
[QUOTE="bean-with-bacon"]Yeah they're tarts, Americans just decided to put pie in the name, I will consent to cheesecake perhaps being a tart but it is most definately not a pie.
LJS9502_basic
This article may interest you then. Seems a tart is a type of pie. Oops...
Yes, but the term pie is misleading as it implies that cheesecake is a baked and completely covered savoury food when it clearly is not... And I can't believe I'm debating the finer points of cheesecake classification... I propose a new category for cakes with a crumbed bottom, suggestions?
Cheesecake isn't cake at all; it's pie. Cakes don't have a crust and they have a fair amount of flour in them. Cheesecakes have a crust but no flour. Cakes also tend to rise a fair amount when cooked and have a lot of air in them at the end; cheesecakes don't.
Cheesecakes bear the most resemblance to a cream pie. Cream pies are basically just pudding or custard in a pie shell. Cheesecake filling is custard with cream cheese providing the dairy, instead of milk. That makes the result firmer, but it's the same idea.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="mattyftm"]No, I read your link, I just don't consider it a cake or a pie. I consider it a completely diferent thing.
mattyftm
Doesn't matter. You don't get to arbitrarily decide against facts.
Pie = An article of food consisting of paste baked with something in it or under it; as, chicken pie; venison pie; mince pie; apple pie; pumpkin pie.
Last time I had cheesecake it most definately wasn't baked.
Then you had a no baked cheesecake, real new york style cheesecake is baked.[QUOTE="mattyftm"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="mattyftm"]No, I read your link, I just don't consider it a cake or a pie. I consider it a completely diferent thing.
Dub_c6969
Doesn't matter. You don't get to arbitrarily decide against facts.
Pie = An article of food consisting of paste baked with something in it or under it; as, chicken pie; venison pie; mince pie; apple pie; pumpkin pie.
Last time I had cheesecake it most definately wasn't baked.
Then you had a no baked cheese cake, real new york style cheese cake is baked.Woah, you guys bake your cheescakes? weird :?
Cheesecake isn't cake at all; it's pie. Cakes don't have a crust and they have a fair amount of flour in them. Cheesecakes have a crust but no flour. Cakes also tend to rise a fair amount when cooked and have a lot of air in them at the end; cheesecakes don't.
Cheesecakes bear the most resemblance to a cream pie. Cream pies are basically just pudding or custard in a pie shell. Cheesecake filling is custard with cream cheese providing the dairy, instead of milk. That makes the result firmer, but it's the same idea.
Dub_c6969
It's not a crust! Just because you put crushed up cookies in the bottom of the tin doesn't make it a pie. It's more like a layer than a pie crust.
Furthermore, cheeseCAKE :|
[QUOTE="Dub_c6969"]Cheesecake isn't cake at all; it's pie. Cakes don't have a crust and they have a fair amount of flour in them. Cheesecakes have a crust but no flour. Cakes also tend to rise a fair amount when cooked and have a lot of air in them at the end; cheesecakes don't.
Cheesecakes bear the most resemblance to a cream pie. Cream pies are basically just pudding or custard in a pie shell. Cheesecake filling is custard with cream cheese providing the dairy, instead of milk. That makes the result firmer, but it's the same idea.
---OkeyDokey---
It's not a crust! Just because you put crushed up cookies in the bottom of the tin doesn't make it a pie. It's more like a layer than a pie crust.
Furthermore, cheeseCAKE :|
You should read the link. It's not a cake at all only in name.;)
[QUOTE="Dub_c6969"][QUOTE="mattyftm"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="mattyftm"]No, I read your link, I just don't consider it a cake or a pie. I consider it a completely diferent thing.
bean-with-bacon
Doesn't matter. You don't get to arbitrarily decide against facts.
Pie = An article of food consisting of paste baked with something in it or under it; as, chicken pie; venison pie; mince pie; apple pie; pumpkin pie.
Last time I had cheesecake it most definately wasn't baked.
Then you had a no baked cheese cake, real new york style cheese cake is baked.Woah, you guys bake your cheescakes? weird :?
Yea you have two types of cheesecake, the nobaked like you get out of the jello boxes at walmart LINKThen you have the Baked cheesecakes like at the cheesecake factory that look something like this
I personally like the no baked but the baked ones from the cheesecake factory down here in Houston Texas are pretty good, the only difference to me are that the baked ones are a firmer and not as jello like as the no baked ones.
It's a cake!!!!!!!
Tomatoes have seeds but you don't see everyone going around calling them fruit :evil:
[QUOTE="Mr_Sesshomaru"]It's a pie, but either way it's disgusting...
LJS9502_basic
Blasphemy sir....:o
It's almost as vomit-inducing as vodka...It's a cake!!!!!!!
Tomatoes have seeds but you don't see everyone going around calling them fruit :evil:
---OkeyDokey---
Um...yes you do.:|
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Mr_Sesshomaru"]It's a pie, but either way it's disgusting...
Mr_Sesshomaru
Blasphemy sir....:o
It's almost as vomit-inducing as vodka...Ah you pay attention to me.:oops: I shall have some cheesecake and vodka in honor of this warm and fuzzy moment.
[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"]There are many pies that don't have a top crust. ;)[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"] LJS9502_basic
a pie without a top crust is called a tart. you americans and your baked goods... i guess there's so many out there that they can only be put into either the pie or cake category. bless :oops:
Yes....a pie. Self ownage?
jesus...
a lorry is a type of vehicle but you wouldnt call it a car would you?
what's your point?
Tomatoes are fruits. Fruits and vegetables are determined by what part of the plant it comes from. Since tomatoes are basically the plant's ovaries, it's considered a fruit...It's a cake!!!!!!!
Tomatoes have seeds but you don't see everyone going around calling them fruit :evil:
---OkeyDokey---
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"]There are many pies that don't have a top crust. ;)[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"] my_name_is_ron
a pie without a top crust is called a tart. you americans and your baked goods... i guess there's so many out there that they can only be put into either the pie or cake category. bless :oops:
Yes....a pie. Self ownage?
jesus...
a lorry is a type of vehicle but you wouldnt call it a car would you?
what's your point?
It's a truck...and both cars and trucks are motorized vehicles.:)
And I merely bolded your words....and thanks for the compliment but I'm really not Jesus.;)
[QUOTE="Mr_Sesshomaru"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Mr_Sesshomaru"]It's a pie, but either way it's disgusting...
LJS9502_basic
Blasphemy sir....:o
It's almost as vomit-inducing as vodka...Ah you pay attention to me.:oops: I shall have some cheesecake and vodka in honor of this warm and fuzzy moment.
How could anyone not, Bob?It's called cheeseCAKE. It's not really debatable.yabbicoke
Why do you think these threads keep coming up? And yes, it's not really debatable, that it is indeed a pie. :|
I'd say its a cake because it has cake in its name :|cryptosopoidium
Ever heard of misnomer? That's like saying french fries is French cuisine. :|
[QUOTE="Dub_c6969"][QUOTE="mattyftm"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="mattyftm"]No, I read your link, I just don't consider it a cake or a pie. I consider it a completely diferent thing.
bean-with-bacon
Doesn't matter. You don't get to arbitrarily decide against facts.
Pie = An article of food consisting of paste baked with something in it or under it; as, chicken pie; venison pie; mince pie; apple pie; pumpkin pie.
Last time I had cheesecake it most definately wasn't baked.
Then you had a no baked cheese cake, real new york ****cheese cake is baked.Woah, you guys bake your cheescakes? weird :?
Yeah, americans bake their cheesecakes, but british cheesecakes are unbaked, and since cheesecake is a broad term refering to either (and more variations), a cheesecake isn't a pie. An american baked cheesecake is, but the term cheesecake refers to a much broader range of foods, so the term cheesecake does not mean a pie.
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