Is getting more people to vote really a good thing?

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#1 camreeno360
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It seems whenever there is an election, they incourage everyone to vote, not matter who you are. But I noticed something and had an idea. Is it actually better? Woulnd't it be better if the current voters voted?

So...The people who are encouraged to vote and care to vote in the first place are generally smart people. Therefore the people we have voting make fairly educated votes. So if everyone voted, wouldn't that get the votes of a few more stupid people, who's votes are more inaccurate? If everyone voted, wouldn't that not filter out all the stupid votes from people who didn't do their research? A topic.

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#2 Mumbles527
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It doesn't matter who votes. Its not like our votes mean anything. Hell, we don't even actually vote for the President. We vote for people who say they'll vote for the President if they win, but nothing says they have to stick to their word. The voting system was originally designed to make the people feel like they are in charge, while really they decide nothing at all.
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#3 Crimson_Sin
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The idea is that if you can get others to vote, then they'll take interest in their own government. They'll take part in educated themselves in the field and overall increase the general amount of voters
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#4 cpo335
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It doesn't matter who votes. Its not like our votes mean anything. Hell, we don't even actually vote for the President. We vote for people who say they'll vote for the President if they win, but nothing says they have to stick to their word. The voting system was originally designed to make the people feel like they are in charge, while really they decide nothing at all.Mumbles527
Yeah, you keep thinkin' that...
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#5 204259106jk
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Voting is compulsory down under.
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#6 -Dionysus-
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I hope you're not assuming every voter that votes now and often is informed.
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#7 Mumbles527
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[QUOTE="Mumbles527"]It doesn't matter who votes. Its not like our votes mean anything. Hell, we don't even actually vote for the President. We vote for people who say they'll vote for the President if they win, but nothing says they have to stick to their word. The voting system was originally designed to make the people feel like they are in charge, while really they decide nothing at all.cpo335
Yeah, you keep thinkin' that...

Its not like its some big conspiracy I just made up, its fact. We don't vote for the President, we vote for electors. Electors, the people in the Electoral College, vote for the President. If it was in fact just votes that mattered, then the person with the highest percent of the popular vote would win, but we all know that that doesn't happen.
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#8 cpo335
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[QUOTE="cpo335"][QUOTE="Mumbles527"]It doesn't matter who votes. Its not like our votes mean anything. Hell, we don't even actually vote for the President. We vote for people who say they'll vote for the President if they win, but nothing says they have to stick to their word. The voting system was originally designed to make the people feel like they are in charge, while really they decide nothing at all.Mumbles527
Yeah, you keep thinkin' that...

Its not like its some big conspiracy I just made up, its fact. We don't vote for the President, we vote for electors. Electors, the people in the Electoral College, vote for the President. If it was in fact just votes that mattered, then the person with the highest percent of the popular vote would win, but we all know that that doesn't happen.

Sure, whatever you say.
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I have never voted in my life.  I have never had a US bank account.  I have no US credit history.  Yet I am a US citizen.

I choose to live life under the (US) radar, yet I am a VERY successful individual.

Thanks to my mother, I have been given a unique opportunity.

I am a free agent, if you will.

I bear no allegience to any country but my own, and that is the country of me, in basic empirical terms.

NO country is perfect, but I will draw what benefit I can from whatever Country offers me what I want/need.

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[QUOTE="Mumbles527"][QUOTE="cpo335"][QUOTE="Mumbles527"]It doesn't matter who votes. Its not like our votes mean anything. Hell, we don't even actually vote for the President. We vote for people who say they'll vote for the President if they win, but nothing says they have to stick to their word. The voting system was originally designed to make the people feel like they are in charge, while really they decide nothing at all.cpo335
Yeah, you keep thinkin' that...

Its not like its some big conspiracy I just made up, its fact. We don't vote for the President, we vote for electors. Electors, the people in the Electoral College, vote for the President. If it was in fact just votes that mattered, then the person with the highest percent of the popular vote would win, but we all know that that doesn't happen.

Sure, whatever you say.

I really can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. If not, you should seriously inform yourself on the voting process in America. 

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I believe it is. I think that if you don't vote, you shouldn't be able to protest.
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well i want to vote but im turning 18 nov 5 in 2008 so it wont happen
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#13 Lacuna69
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I believe it is. I think that if you don't vote, you shouldn't be able to protest.RoyTheViking

I don't vote, I don't protest, I just relocate as and when I see fit. 

Of course my current love interest factors into this somewhat.

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#14 cpo335
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I believe it is. I think that if you don't vote, you shouldn't be able to protest.RoyTheViking
I agree completely.
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#15 Rekunta
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I don't know. 

You could say that some shouldn't vote due to their ignorance, but I find that people that say that to me disagree with my viewpoint on the subject.  If I end up agreeing, my ignorance vanishes in their eyes.  Funny how that works.

But yes, more people should vote but only those who are interested and who take the time to become informed of the issues (BOTH sides) before heading to the ballot boxes.

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The voting process is there to make us "think" we actually have a choice. But regardless of who has the most votes, the government is gonna get who THEY want. Just like when Bush was first elected, do you actually think that recount was an accident? No, they wanted him as president, and therefor did what needed to be done to get it. And what usually needs to be done is a lot of lying and deceiving. Just what the government is good at. The truth is that we have no real choice, cause regardless of what we want, the government is gonna do what they want. And the sad thing is, most Americans are to nieve to see it.
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The voting process is there to make us "think" we actually have a choice. But regardless of who has the most votes, the government is gonna get who THEY want. Just like when Bush was first elected, do you actually think that recount was an accident? No, they wanted him as president, and therefor did what needed to be done to get it. And what usually needs to be done is a lot of lying and deceiving. Just what the government is good at. The truth is that we have no real choice, cause regardless of what we want, the government is gonna do what they want. And the sad thing is, most Americans are to nieve to see it.Crimson_Faith

While I wouldn't doubt that corruption has taken place, I still think voting works.  Otherwise Bush and his administration would not have lost the majority of seats in the House and Senate.

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[QUOTE="Crimson_Faith"]The voting process is there to make us "think" we actually have a choice. But regardless of who has the most votes, the government is gonna get who THEY want. Just like when Bush was first elected, do you actually think that recount was an accident? No, they wanted him as president, and therefor did what needed to be done to get it. And what usually needs to be done is a lot of lying and deceiving. Just what the government is good at. The truth is that we have no real choice, cause regardless of what we want, the government is gonna do what they want. And the sad thing is, most Americans are to nieve to see it.Rekunta

While I wouldn't doubt that corruption has taken place, I still think voting works. Otherwise Bush and his administration would not have lost the majority of seats in the House and Senate.

I find it slightly comical you only associate corruption with Bush and not democrats. 

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#19 theburg
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It doesn't matter who votes. Its not like our votes mean anything. Hell, we don't even actually vote for the President. We vote for people who say they'll vote for the President if they win, but nothing says they have to stick to their word. The voting system was originally designed to make the people feel like they are in charge, while really they decide nothing at all.Mumbles527

The point of the electoral college is to over represent people living in rural areas and under represent people living in large population centers. Its not there to trick people.

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#20 Rekunta
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[QUOTE="Rekunta"]

[QUOTE="Crimson_Faith"]The voting process is there to make us "think" we actually have a choice. But regardless of who has the most votes, the government is gonna get who THEY want. Just like when Bush was first elected, do you actually think that recount was an accident? No, they wanted him as president, and therefor did what needed to be done to get it. And what usually needs to be done is a lot of lying and deceiving. Just what the government is good at. The truth is that we have no real choice, cause regardless of what we want, the government is gonna do what they want. And the sad thing is, most Americans are to nieve to see it.-Dionysus-

While I wouldn't doubt that corruption has taken place, I still think voting works. Otherwise Bush and his administration would not have lost the majority of seats in the House and Senate.

I find it slightly comical you only associate corruption with Bush and not democrats. 

   How did you come up with this?  I didn't even speak on democrats, you have no basis to state I only think a certain way about a certain party.  The democrats are just as guilty in my view.  And when I state that voting works when the Bush Administration is in power, how is that in any way inferring that they are corrupt?  Wouldn't the fact that the elections changed the seat of power towards the democrats go to show that Bush had no hand in directing the outcome? 

I was speaking of corruption in politics in general, take it easy.

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If they vote reublican, then no its not.
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I believe it is. I think that if you don't vote, you shouldn't be able to protest.RoyTheViking

but what if either choice is bad to you? 

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#23 still_thinking
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depends, are they liberal?
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depends, are they liberal?
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#25 formaldehyde27
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It is important in getting more people to vote i think. Yes some of them will be ignorant and just check off whoevers name looks best. But I think that most people will actually at least listen to a debate between candidates, or do some other form of research to get an understanding of what each person represents. Here in Canada, there aren't many young people voting. Young people are the next generation, so if less and less people vote, then our country may be getting misrepresented.

I personally can't wait to vote again. And I will be encouraging my friends/family to do the same.

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More is always better!