Is Islamic Prayer in Christian Churches "too far"?

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]Nascar did something similar. They got away from the driver fights and the rubbing and the wrecks to try and appeal to the masses...WhiteKnight77

You missed the fight between Jeff Gordon and Jeff Burton last year I take it. Last year NASCAR took the gloves off so to speak.

As far as churches. I guess if they choose to allow other religions to practice in their sanctuaries, it is up to them. Will the other religion reciprocate? Hard to say.

Seems to be working. They (ESPN) said that the Daytona 500 got huge ratings this weekend.
When you try an appeal to everyone, you really appeal to no one

how can muslims worship in a building that is also used for christians polytheistic worshipping? epic fail

Harisemo

Well...Christians aren't polytheistic for one...secondly Muslims aren't really allowed to build Mosques in America haha, so they have to use other places.

The church is the body of believers, not a building. As long as the congragation is not participating in those prayers then there should not be a problem.

I would think the muslims would have a problem praying in a church actually.

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

Where do people get the idea that Jesus is God? As a non-practicing Methodist, I was taught that God was the supreme being and Jesus was the son of God born to Mary of a divine birth. Of course there is more to it, but that is the general gist of it. There is supposed to be only one God.

Omni-Slash

Holy trinity is classified as one God though.

I'm not even a race fan Iand I found the Daytona 500 to be really interesting to watch.....admittedly I camp at Watkins Glen with the family during the raceweek/end there in august...and have a blast......Omni-Slash

Holy trinity is classified as one God though.

TacticalDesire

Never watched a race. But the highlights/audio of that 20 year old kid winning and not knowing were victory lane was was pretty damn goodrawsavon

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]Nascar did something similar. They got away from the driver fights and the rubbing and the wrecks to try and appeal to the masses...rawsavon

You missed the fight between Jeff Gordon and Jeff Burton last year I take it. Last year NASCAR took the gloves off so to speak.

As far as churches. I guess if they choose to allow other religions to practice in their sanctuaries, it is up to them. Will the other religion reciprocate? Hard to say.

Seems to be working. They (ESPN) said that the Daytona 500 got huge ratings this weekend.
When you try an appeal to everyone, you really appeal to no one

It was good. Better than what it has been lately. It was also record breaking for a race too.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] Never watched a race. But the highlights/audio of that 20 year old kid winning and not knowing were victory lane was was pretty damn goodOmni-Slash

The party is the reason for going to the races. If you really want to watch it, ya need to tape it to watch later. LOL

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] Never watched a race. But the highlights/audio of that 20 year old kid winning and not knowing were victory lane was was pretty damn goodOmni-Slash

The party is the reason for going to the races. If you really want to watch it, ya need to tape it to watch later. LOL

WhiteKnight77

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

I think it all needs to stop. But, in this context, I think each religion should remain exclusive of the other.

LikeHaterade

I think that's a terrible idea.

Why?

Really. Since (in the Christian church and Bible) Jesus is God.
I wonder how you rectify that both worship the same God...either Jesus is God or he is not.
...unless Muslims believe that Jesus came and died for the sins of the world (and I am just unaware)

rawsavon

The believe Jesus was a very important prophet who was born from a virgin, preached and then ascended to heaven (they don't think the crucifixion took place). If they go to church, they pray to Jesus' daddy, who, supposedly, is god too, right?

Muslims don't mind christians. They have much more respect for Jesus than jews. If christians are really going to try to judge things according to whose fairytale is "better", the muslims' fairytale is close enough to the christian fairytale not to consider them "dead wrong".

I'm not against this.

i think its good that they let the muslims do their stuff there, but i think it would've been better for the world if they let demolition men do their stuff there.

Wait... they're praying for their God in another God's place? Oh religion.

Altiar25

same god, so... yeah. and it's up to the church's if they want to allow it.

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="spliffstar12"] Muslims dont reject Jesus hes a prophetWhiteKnight77

Where do people get the idea that Jesus is God? As a non-practicing Methodist, I was taught that God was the supreme being and Jesus was the son of God born to Mary of a divine birth. Of course there is more to it, but that is the general gist of it. There is supposed to be only one God.

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

Where do people get the idea that Jesus is God? As a non-practicing Methodist, I was taught that God was the supreme being and Jesus was the son of God born to Mary of a divine birth. Of course there is more to it, but that is the general gist of it. There is supposed to be only one God.

Yes but in Christianity he is God. DivergeUnify

Where do people get the idea that Jesus is God? As a non-practicing Methodist, I was taught that God was the supreme being and Jesus was the son of God born to Mary of a divine birth. Of course there is more to it, but that is the general gist of it. There is supposed to be only one God.

If a church allows it, then it's okay. It's their property and they have the right to decide what can go in or not.

Wait... they're praying for their God in another God's place? Oh religion.

[QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="Altiar25"]

Wait... they're praying for their God in another God's place? Oh religion.

jshaas

how does that prove Islamic God does not = christian God?

[QUOTE="jshaas"][QUOTE="clayron"] Islamic God = Christian God.Harisemo

how does that prove Islamic God does not = christian God?

It doesn't.

It is epic fail. It wouldn't be considered a prayer because certain conditions have to be met in the place of prayer. They probably did it as an attempt to bring people together. You wanna follow a religion, at least do it the right way.

gamingqueen

Actually it is allowed for Muslims to pray in a church (or even synagogue), particularly if no mosque is avalible to them. Indeed Muslims are allowed to pray anywhere, provided the location is tahir ("clean").

[QUOTE="jshaas"][QUOTE="clayron"] Islamic God = Christian God.Harisemo

how does that prove Islamic God does not = christian God?

[QUOTE="gamingqueen"]

It is epic fail. It wouldn't be considered a prayer because certain conditions have to be met in the place of prayer. They probably did it as an attempt to bring people together. You wanna follow a religion, at least do it the right way.

worlock77

Actually it is allowed for Muslims to pray in a church (or even synagogue), particularly if no mosque is avalible to them. Indeed Muslims are allowed to pray anywhere, provided the location is tahir ("clean").

Okay you're right :P

In this case, they can't pray in chruches since there are plenty of mosques everywhere.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="gamingqueen"]

It is epic fail. It wouldn't be considered a prayer because certain conditions have to be met in the place of prayer. They probably did it as an attempt to bring people together. You wanna follow a religion, at least do it the right way.

gamingqueen

Actually it is allowed for Muslims to pray in a church (or even synagogue), particularly if no mosque is avalible to them. Indeed Muslims are allowed to pray anywhere, provided the location is tahir ("clean").

Okay you're right :P

In this case, they can't pray in chruches since there are plenty of mosques everywhere.

But there aren't plenty of mosques everywhere. I know there are Muslims in my town, but there isn't a mosque within 30 or 40 miles of here. Sure, they can pray just as well in their homes and whatnot, but some people feel the need to pray in some kind of holy sanctuary.

[QUOTE="gamingqueen"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Actually it is allowed for Muslims to pray in a church (or even synagogue), particularly if no mosque is avalible to them. Indeed Muslims are allowed to pray anywhere, provided the location is tahir ("clean").

Okay you're right :P

In this case, they can't pray in chruches since there are plenty of mosques everywhere.

But there aren't plenty of mosques everywhere. I know there are Muslims in my town, but there isn't a mosque within 30 or 40 miles of here. Sure, they can pray just as well in their homes and whatnot, but some people feel the need to pray in some kind of holy sanctuary.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="gamingqueen"]

Okay you're right :P

In this case, they can't pray in chruches since there are plenty of mosques everywhere.

YellowOneKinobi

But there aren't plenty of mosques everywhere. I know there are Muslims in my town, but there isn't a mosque within 30 or 40 miles of here. Sure, they can pray just as well in their homes and whatnot, but some people feel the need to pray in some kind of holy sanctuary.

Well the Qur'an acknowledges that, despite some differences in theology, Christians worship the same God as Muslims do. The Qur'an even calls them "people of the book". Muhammad, as well, alllowed Christians to use his personal mosque for prayer.

Just glad I'm not Christian, couldn't live with being so walked over.

Just glad I'm not Christian, couldn't live with being so walked over.

Evil_Saluki

Just glad I'm not Christian, couldn't live with being so walked over.

Evil_Saluki

Why would you consider it being "walked over"?

I just dont understand how it makes sense in the context of their religions.

I just dont understand how it makes sense in the context of their religions.

chester706

What do you mean? Christians, Muslims, aand Jews all worship the same supreme God. Except, Christians believe Jesus is the Son of God, Jews believe Yahweh is God and that's it, and Muslims believe in Muhammad.

Any kind of prayer at a school is too far.the_ChEeSe_mAn2

Well then it's a good thing we're not talking about schools here.

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"]Any kind of prayer at a school is too far.worlock77

Well then it's a good thing we're not talking about schools here.

[QUOTE="chester706"]

I just dont understand how it makes sense in the context of their religions.

JustMe64

What do you mean? Christians, Muslims, aand Jews all worship the same supreme God. Except, Christians believe Jesus is the Son of God, Jews believe Yahweh is God and that's it, and Muslims believe in Muhammad.

Muslims believe that Muhammad was a prophet, the final one in a long line that included Abraham, Moses, even Jesus, but that he was a mortal man. Nothing more. Unless my understanding is wrong Muslims believe that Jesus was a prophet, and indeed the Messiah, but that he was not God. They also believe that his teachings became corrupted overtime, thus necessitating another prophet (Muhammad).

[QUOTE="JustMe64"]

[QUOTE="chester706"]

I just dont understand how it makes sense in the context of their religions.

worlock77

What do you mean? Christians, Muslims, aand Jews all worship the same supreme God. Except, Christians believe Jesus is the Son of God, Jews believe Yahweh is God and that's it, and Muslims believe in Muhammad.

Muslims believe that Muhammad was a prophet, the final one in a long line that included Abraham, Moses, even Jesus, but that he was a mortal man. Nothing more. Unless my understanding is wrong Muslims believe that Jesus was a prophet, and indeed the Messiah, but that he was not God. They also believe that his teachings became corrupted overtime, thus necessitating another prophet (Muhammad).

Yes, I know. I worded my sentence badly. You explained it much better.