Is It Just A Coincidence?

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#1 Crushmaster
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Jesus Christ, one Man, one Person, has changed people, lives, and the world in general unlike any other. Christianity treats women with respect. Christianity calls for holy living. Christianity says that salvation is by grace, through faith in Jesus Christ as repentance. Christianity is unique. Christianity is, many times, singled out for ridicule more than any other religion. The Bible has advanced scientific information; or, it did for the time it was written. The Bible has never been shown to be in error. The Bible and its principles cover every area of life, basically; if you're not sure about something morally, you can go to it and find the answer. Christ has taken people we call very wicked and changed them. I could undoubtedly put much more. Just think about Christ, Jesus Christ - the impact He's had and is continuing to have on this world. Think about how, unlike other religions, rather than lowering women, it exalts them. Think of how it says works cannot save you, only faith in Jesus Christ and repentance has. Think of its uniqueness! I pointed out all these things above, but I wanted to re-emphasize them. Think of these I have re-emphasized, and all of the other things above. Think of it. Now, answer this question. Is It Just A Coincidence...just a coincidence of how perfect, how awesome, how amazing, how unique Christ and Christianity is? Voice your thoughts in the poll. Please Note: This topic's purpose is evangelism. Please keep the discussion around Christian/faith/religious-based subjects; creation vs. evolution, the infallibility of the Bible, God, et cetera; and, of course, the poll question. Also, please refrain from spamming and off-topic postings. Thank you. God bless, Crushmaster.
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if you want to talk about a real coincidence talk about how the commonly depicted christian god looks an awful lot like zeus
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#4 super_mario_128
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I don't see how 'coincidence' comes into the equation at all... And I agree with a lot of things in your post. Not least that the Bible has all the answers regarding moral issues.
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if you want to talk about a real coincidence talk about how the commonly depicted christian god looks an awful lot like zeusDman0017
Where did you get that from? No one knows what god looks like.
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You told me I should think about Christ. But clearly I have only one life to live so who want to spend that thinking. I just do bro. Thinking just takes up to much of my time.
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#7 Schultz38
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Do you purposely create these threads just to draw the wrong type of attention?kulmiye

Stating his opinion, is not "purposely create(ing) threads just to draw the wrong attention."

I've seen countless "Why God isn't real," or "Reasons why christianity is false." Why haven't you said anything about those?

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#8 Schultz38
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You told me I should think about Christ. But clearly I have only one life to live so who want to spend that thinking. I just do bro. Thinking just takes up to much of my time.Wilfred_Owen

If Heaven and Hell is real, and you go to Hell, you'll have plenty of time to think about it when you're in Hell. Spend the time to think about it now, to save you from an eternity in Hell.

Don't take this the wrong way, please, I'm just saying why you should think about it now.

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Christianity treats women with respect? Women are the property of men in the Bible. How is that respect? The Bible has advanced scientific information? The Bible, if taken literally, says that the world doesn't move and is a circle with four corners. How is that scientific? Think of it. Now, answer these questions.
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If Heaven and Hell is real, and you go to Hell, you'll have plenty of time to think about it when you're in Hell. Spend the time to think about it now, to save you from an eternity in Hell.

Don't take this the wrong way, please, I'm just saying why you should think about it now.

Schultz38
Hell doesn't exist. He has all the time in the world to make the right decisions, and among those would be to not be a Christian.
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i laughed when he said "how perfect"
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Yes I know! How comforting it is to know that Jesus loves and forgives us! No matter how many times we may mess up!

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#13 Ontain
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I don't see any coincidences in this fable. I do see irony in how most Christians seem very much un-Christ like
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#14 CptJSparrow
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No, considering that it isn't as you describe it.
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Christianity treats women with respect? Women are the property of men in the Bible. How is that respect? The Bible has advanced scientific information? The Bible, if taken literally, says that the world doesn't move and is a circle with four corners. How is that scientific? Think of it. Now, answer these questions.Genetic_Code

Where does in the Bible, does it say that?

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[QUOTE="Dman0017"]if you want to talk about a real coincidence talk about how the commonly depicted christian god looks an awful lot like zeusMasterBolt360
Where did you get that from? No one knows what god looks like.

i said commonly depicted

"God"

http://static.artbible.info/large/scheppingadam.jpg

Zeus:

http://danielfuentes.iespana.es/danielfuentes/images/mitologia/zeus.jpg

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Yes I know! How comforting it is to know that Jesus loves and forgives us! No matter how many times we may mess up!

J-man45

If Jesus loves me, he does a poor job showing it, considering he's dead.

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[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"]Christianity treats women with respect? Women are the property of men in the Bible. How is that respect? The Bible has advanced scientific information? The Bible, if taken literally, says that the world doesn't move and is a circle with four corners. How is that scientific? Think of it. Now, answer these questions.

Proof? Proof? In Christ, Crushmaster.
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You told me I should think about Christ. But clearly I have only one life to live so who want to spend that thinking. I just do bro. Thinking just takes up to much of my time.Wilfred_Owen
You should think about it. Because your eternal destiny depends on it. In Christ, Crushmaster.
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If you walk around telling people your God's son and then wow them with magic tricks making them believe, then those people write you down in a book which then is told over the course of 2000 years as being fact, then your going to fool some people.

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[QUOTE="Wilfred_Owen"]You told me I should think about Christ. But clearly I have only one life to live so who want to spend that thinking. I just do bro. Thinking just takes up to much of my time.Crushmaster
You should think about it. Because your eternal destiny depends on it. In Christ, Crushmaster.

What if there is no eternal destiny? Et cetera.
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[QUOTE="J-man45"]

Yes I know! How comforting it is to know that Jesus loves and forgives us! No matter how many times we may mess up!

Genetic_Code

If Jesus loves me, he does a poor job showing it, considering he's dead.

Jesus is part of the trinity (God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit) and God is ALIVEin Heaven, so Jesus can love us.

Furthermore, Jesus rose from the dead on the third day, and later went to Heaven. Thus, he never stayed dead.

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I'll believe what I wanna believe thanks. Take your spreading somewhere else. :)
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[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"]Christianity treats women with respect? Women are the property of men in the Bible. How is that respect? The Bible has advanced scientific information? The Bible, if taken literally, says that the world doesn't move and is a circle with four corners. How is that scientific? Think of it. Now, answer these questions.Schultz38

Where does in the Bible, does it say that?

http://nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/darkbible7.htm#virgins-worth
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[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="Wilfred_Owen"]You told me I should think about Christ. But clearly I have only one life to live so who want to spend that thinking. I just do bro. Thinking just takes up to much of my time.super_mario_128
You should think about it. Because your eternal destiny depends on it. In Christ, Crushmaster.

What if there is no eternal destiny? Et cetera.

What if there isn't? I would rather be safe then sorry.

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This would go well in your blog

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Soooo much bait :o
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[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Crushmaster"] You should think about it. Because your eternal destiny depends on it. In Christ, Crushmaster.Schultz38

What if there is no eternal destiny? Et cetera.

What if there isn't? I would rather be safe then sorry.

What happens if you only live once? I'd rather not restrain myself within the laws of Christianity.
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#30 Crushmaster
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No, considering that it isn't as you describe it.CptJSparrow
Proof? In Christ, Crushmaster.
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[QUOTE="kulmiye"]Do you purposely create these threads just to draw the wrong type of attention?Schultz38

Stating his opinion, is not "purposely create(ing) threads just to draw the wrong attention."

I've seen countless "Why God isn't real," or "Reasons why christianity is false." Why haven't you said anything about those?

Because he does it on a frequent basis. Also it sounds like he's preaching.
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#32 Schultz38
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I'll believe what I wanna believe thanks. Take your spreading somewhere else. :)Maniacc1

I've read a lot of people saying how "God isn't real," etc. on the "Off Topic Discussion." Now it's my turn to state my opinion:)

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. Christianity treats women with respect. Crushmaster

Best joke I've heard all week

Thank you :V

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Where does in the Bible, does it say that?

Schultz38

On women:

"If you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife. If you are not pleased with her, let her go wherever she wishes. You must not sell her or treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her." -Deuteronomy 21:11-14

On the world being a circle:

"He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in." -Isaiah 40:22

On the world having four corners.

"And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth." -Isaiah 11:11-12

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#35 Schultz38
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[QUOTE="Schultz38"]

[QUOTE="kulmiye"]Do you purposely create these threads just to draw the wrong type of attention?kulmiye

Stating his opinion, is not "purposely create(ing) threads just to draw the wrong attention."

I've seen countless "Why God isn't real," or "Reasons why christianity is false." Why haven't you said anything about those?

Because he does it on a frequent basis. Also it sounds like he's preaching.

1.What's wrong with preaching?

2.If you don't like what he's saying, don't comment.

3.He stating his opinion, just like other people have. Again, why don't you get mad at those people?

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1. Jesus Christ, one Man, one Person, has changed people, lives, and the world in general unlike any other. 2. Christianity treats women with respect. 3. Christianity calls for holy living. Christianity says that salvation is by grace, through faith in Jesus Christ as repentance. 4. Christianity is unique. 5. Christianity is, many times, singled out for ridicule more than any other religion. 6. The Bible has advanced scientific information; or, it did for the time it was written. 7. The Bible has never been shown to be in error. 8. The Bible and its principles cover every area of life, basically; if you're not sure about something morally, you can go to it and find the answer. Christ has taken people we call very wicked and changed them. I could undoubtedly put much more. Just think about Christ, Jesus Christ - the impact He's had and is continuing to have on this world. Think about how, unlike other religions, rather than lowering women, it exalts them. Think of how it says works cannot save you, only faith in Jesus Christ and repentance has. Think of its uniqueness! I pointed out all these things above, but I wanted to re-emphasize them. Think of these I have re-emphasized, and all of the other things above. Think of it. Now, answer this question. Is It Just A Coincidence...just a coincidence of how perfect, how awesome, how amazing, how unique Christ and Christianity is? Voice your thoughts in the poll. Please Note: This topic's purpose is evangelism. Please keep the discussion around Christian/faith/religious-based subjects; creation vs. evolution, the infallibility of the Bible, God, et cetera; and, of course, the poll question. Also, please refrain from spamming and off-topic postings. Thank you. God bless, Crushmaster.Crushmaster

1. Many artists and art itself, music, single experiences, people in ones life etc etc are life changing factors as well.

2. By your definition of Christianity women should not participate in politics and the army as your About Me tab in your profile says. This is inequality and therefore lack of respect.

3. By your definition of Christianity works are just filthy rugs. Boy you need to have a consensus sometimes. You cant come one time, say one thing and then later say the opposite. Either clarify or stop contradicting yoursleves.

4. All religions are unique in their own way.

5. That probably happens because it is the most popular religion and popularity of a religion is not a valid argument

6. A claim refuted many times in past evangelising threads

7. Same as above

8. Just because it comes in handy in everything doesnt mean its valid. If you are unsure about something morally you can look up Plato, Aristotle and Socrates and many other philosophers.

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[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"]

[QUOTE="J-man45"]

Yes I know! How comforting it is to know that Jesus loves and forgives us! No matter how many times we may mess up!

Crushmaster

If Jesus loves me, he does a poor job showing it, considering he's dead.

(a) He's not dead. (b) He doesn't love you; not right now (Psalms 5:5). In Christ, Crushmaster.

How can he be alive if he isn't even a living being ? :/

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I would rather be safe then sorry.Schultz38
lol Pascal's wager.
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#39 Crushmaster
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[QUOTE="Ontain"]I don't see any coincidences in this fable. I do see irony in how most Christians seem very much un-Christ like

Most professing Christians aren't Christians at all. In Christ, Crushmaster.
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I wouldn't say that christianity is the one true faith. However, God is the one and only mighty ruler. I used to call myself a Christian, but I do not like to be grouped in to all the fakeness. The people and the church are sometimes too fake for me.

I've made a new religion (well not really..) but I prefer to call myself a "man of God" rather than a Christian.

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[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]. Christianity treats women with respect. flordeceres

Best joke I've heard all week

Thank you :V

I have heard it so many times that I cant laugh anymore... :Λ

And mind you we are talking about Crushmaster's version of Christianity.

Also, moderators should lock this thread as it has no point whatsoever other than projecting ones religion as the right one and seeking for approval.

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[QUOTE="Ontain"]I don't see any coincidences in this fable. I do see irony in how most Christians seem very much un-Christ likeCrushmaster
Most professing Christians aren't Christians at all. In Christ, Crushmaster.

Says who, now? Who are you to say that your belief is the definitive one?
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#43 Crushmaster
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What happens if you only live once? I'd rather not restrain myself within the laws of Christianity.super_mario_128
Some people do just live once. Those who have not accepted Christ as Lord and Savior and repented of their sins. They live once, and die twice. Once, a natural death, which sends them to eternity. The second death is eternal damnation. You might not like it, but it's Bible, and it's truth. In Christ, Crushmaster.
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#44 kulmiye
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1.What's wrong with preaching?

2.If you don't like what he's saying, don't comment.

3.He stating his opinion, just like other people have. Again, why don't you get mad at those people?

Schultz38
Who says I'm mad. I'm just stating my opinion and preaching does no good to anyone here.
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[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="Ontain"]I don't see any coincidences in this fable. I do see irony in how most Christians seem very much un-Christ like

Most professing Christians aren't Christians at all. In Christ, Crushmaster.

Awesome. Thats been the excuse for people killing people in the name of religion for all of human history. Thats even the excuse that bin Laden uses when he kills other Muslims.
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[QUOTE="super_mario_128"] What happens if you only live once? I'd rather not restrain myself within the laws of Christianity.Crushmaster
Some people do just live once. Those who have not accepted Christ as Lord and Savior and repented of their sins. They live once, and die twice. Once, a natural death, which sends them to eternity. The second death is eternal damnation. You might not like it, but it's Bible, and it's truth. In Christ, Crushmaster.

where does the bible get its truth from?
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[QUOTE="super_mario_128"] What happens if you only live once? I'd rather not restrain myself within the laws of Christianity.Crushmaster
Some people do just live once. Those who have not accepted Christ as Lord and Savior and repented of their sins. They live once, and die twice. Once, a natural death, which sends them to eternity. The second death is eternal damnation. You might not like it, but it's Bible, and it's truth. In Christ, Crushmaster.

lol arguments with no foundation whatsoever

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[QUOTE="super_mario_128"] What happens if you only live once? I'd rather not restrain myself within the laws of Christianity.Crushmaster
Some people do just live once. Those who have not accepted Christ as Lord and Savior and repented of their sins. They live once, and die twice. Once, a natural death, which sends them to eternity. The second death is eternal damnation. You might not like it, but it's Bible, and it's truth. In Christ, Crushmaster.

Awaiting for proof.....

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[QUOTE="Schultz38"]

Where does in the Bible, does it say that?

Genetic_Code

On women: "If you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. 12 Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails 13 and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife. 14 If you are not pleased with her, let her go wherever she wishes. You must not sell her or treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her." -Deuteronomy 21:11-14

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#50 Teenaged
Member since 2007 • 31764 Posts

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="super_mario_128"] What happens if you only live once? I'd rather not restrain myself within the laws of Christianity.flordeceres

Some people do just live once. Those who have not accepted Christ as Lord and Savior and repented of their sins. They live once, and die twice. Once, a natural death, which sends them to eternity. The second death is eternal damnation. You might not like it, but it's Bible, and it's truth. In Christ, Crushmaster.

lol arguments with no foundation whatsoever

Pfff its not even an argument. Its wishful thinking.