Is it normal that I believe in God, but I am extremely annoyed with Christians?

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#1 Orehhet
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My aunt is a zealot. Imagine all the crap I've got to take from here about how my belief is wrong. It's like "goddamn dude, even atheists leave me alone, why can't you"... Do any of you [Christians] get annoyed by other Christians? I can't take it... I mean, seriously.. trying to convince me that my branch of Christianity is wrong.. like wtf is wrong with these people. I can understand why Atheists and Agnostics get annoyed by Christians...Just a note to you guys, not all of us are like that...

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#2 WhiteSnake5000
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Yes. Completely. Wait I'm not christian... but I am annoyed by my own atheist postings. I wish to quit them as with all speak about the subject of God. I want to be free from that train of thought completely.

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#3 Grodus5
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I get annoyed by the over zealous, those that would let God run their entire lives and don't ever take their own lives into their own hands. I'm Christian by the way, I just get really annoyed when people take it too far.

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#4 Wilfred_Owen
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I'm like that though. Look, I'm right, everyone else is wrong. Thats life, karma, buddism, communism, whatever. The point I'm trying to make is I'm always right and everyone else is always wrong. I hope that helped.
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#5 Travo_basic
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It's not unusual at all
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#6 Lonelynight
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Occasionally, mostly the ones in school though.
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#7 nocoolnamejim
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Well, if you define "normal" as "I'm the same as a great many people" then yeah that's probably pretty normal.
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#8 CRS98
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You're not alone pal. Same thing here.
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#9 wayne_kar
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im lucky, all the religious people in our family are dead now. my grandad died a few years ago taking the family faith with him.

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#10 WhiteSnake5000
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im lucky, all the religious people in our family are dead now. my grandad died a few years ago taking the family faith with him.

wayne_kar
That is cool.
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#11 manicfoot
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Anyone who goes out of their way to tell you how wrong you are is annoying in my opinion. Atheists and theists alike are guilty of this. I'm met nice people from both sides though :)

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#12 pierst179
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Join the club. :)

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#13 Orehhet
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I'm like that though. Look, I'm right, everyone else is wrong. Thats life, karma, buddism, communism, whatever. The point I'm trying to make is I'm always right and everyone else is always wrong. I hope that helped.Wilfred_Owen
Thanks. Lol.
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#14 Orehhet
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The disgusting part is that she's my AUNT... I could understand if someone did this to me, but it's from within the family.. I can't believe she doesn't know when to shut up.
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#15 Theokhoth
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im lucky, all the religious people in our family are dead now. my grandad died a few years ago taking the family faith with him.

wayne_kar

I'm glad you've had the fortune of family members dying. :|

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#16 Engrish_Major
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="wayne_kar"]

im lucky, all the religious people in our family are dead now. my grandad died a few years ago taking the family faith with him.

I'm glad you've had the fortune of family members dying. :|

Yeah, that was weird :? On a related note, there's an ultra-evangelical guy that's always on the street corner across from my apartment building that is quite annoying. Sometimes when I ignore him, he follows me for a bit when I'm walking, spouting Jesus stuff, like saying I won't go to heaven unless I accept him into my life...
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[QUOTE="wayne_kar"]

im lucky, all the religious people in our family are dead now. my grandad died a few years ago taking the family faith with him.

Theokhoth

I'm glad you've had the fortune of family members dying. :|

Yeah that is pretty sad. Even if his beliefs did bother you saying you're lucky that the family faith died off is just kind of sad. I'd consider it a big part of my family going away even if I didn't follow the faith.
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#18 shard9
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im a christian, and i can be annoyed by other christians, more specifically people who say they are christians but preach things that arn't in the bible e.g. 'if your a christian you will have a successful life', stuff like that just isnt true.

in regards to you be annoyed by christians trying to convert you. we believe that if you dont put your faith in god/jesus you will go to hell so we try to help people, most people are annoyed at it but even if we talk to 100 people and one 1 believes it is completely worth it.

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#19 JPOBS
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everyone is annoying when they try to shove their own beliefs down your throat. this isnt a trait exclusive to christians.
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#20 GabuEx
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"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

- Mahatma Gandhi

That's a "yes". :P

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#21 ragek1ll589
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I heard a good quote the other day: "I'm cool with God, it's his fan club I can't stand."

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#22 Random__
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I'm annoyed with all Christians, and no I'm not Christian.
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#23 Dark_Knight6
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Any preachy fundamentalist of any religion annoys me. But I normally just shrug them off. I'd hate to let them think they've gotten under my skin.

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#24 Ikouze
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Yeah I hate it when they do that. I tell them I'm not with that religion stuff and they get an attitude with me and tell me how I should belive in god and so how he is real. That's why I just ignore them now.

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#25 Tauruslink
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Pretty much how I am. I believe and God but many Christians are annoying as heck, imo.

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#26 its_me_
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That's normal I think. I'm a Christian (Catholic, to be specific), and I can't stand the evangelical fundamentalists. The Earth is not 3,000 years old, evolution obviously happened, and yelling about hell on TV is not going to convert anyone. If you're going to belong to a Christian denomination, the Catholic Church is a good one to be in, because its primary objective is to minister to the people who are already members; it's not nearly so much about running around trying to recruit non-believers. The problem I have with evangelicals is this: we're all human, and we all make mistakes and have flaws...so if you criticize or preach to people who don't believe, or if you try and showcase how great your life is, someone will always be able to find a flaw that can bring you down. You're just setting yourself up for a fall, because everyone sins (and the Bible in fact says, 'pride comes before a fall'). I've seen it happen too many times with big-name televangelists or preachers at those massive protestant churches. I just can't condone their confrontational methods. I don't claim to be a better person than anyone on this planet, I only claim to believe in God and His Son, and I will tell you about my beliefs and my experiences if you're interested in hearing about them.

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Convert to atheism just to terrify her. Keep that up for a couple of months, then become a christian again. Your grandma will be so glad that you're back on the team, she'll start cutting you some slack.

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#28 japops
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Yes, I get annoyed too. I've already given my life to Christ but I still get agitated when my dad always pulls the Bible out on me.
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#29 Shad0ki11
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I wouldn't consider Christians to be annoying in general, but that doesn't mean there aren't annoying Christian individuals out there.

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#30 mindstorm
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I myself am extremely annoyed by some people who call themselves Christians... and I am one! Thankfully, other Christians are not the reason I like Jesus so much. :wink:

Jesus is the one I worship, Christians are simply my brothers and sisters that I fight with... but love like family. :)

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#31 SegaGenesisfan
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Its called being zealous, but not being righteous, its in the bible. Anyways, whatever Ghandi said, its a paradox, because being a christian, is being christ-like... So, he is shooting himself in the foot. The bible also says to be courteous, to be conscious of other peoples feelings, dont know were they are, but I know they exist. I did think of how I would like it if someone just randomly came up to me preaching the gospel, it would be extremely offensive to me. It depends on how they do it, are they just trying to shed some light on a matter that your confused on, or are they just trying to make you feel bad, you do not feel exactly like them.

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#32 -katamarina-
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Yes, I get annoyed the way you do. It drives me mad.
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#33 mindstorm
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I'm annoyed with all Christians, and no I'm not Christian.Random__
I annoy you!?! :cry: :P :cry:
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Don't worry my branch of Christianity (Catholicism) is attacked by almost all 33,000 Protestant denominations I've learned to live with it.
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Religion takes up a lot of time. That's all I know anymore.
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#36 mindstorm
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Don't worry my branch of Christianity (Catholicism) is attacked by almost all 33,000 Protestant denominations I've learned to live with it.ferrari2001

*big hug from a Protestant*

As I said a few posts ago, "Christians are simply my brothers and sisters that I fight with... but love like family." :) :wink:

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#37 ferrari2001
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[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]Don't worry my branch of Christianity (Catholicism) is attacked by almost all 33,000 Protestant denominations I've learned to live with it.mindstorm

*big hug from a Protestant*

As I said a few posts ago, "Christians are simply my brothers and sisters that I fight with... but love like family." :) :wink:

I forgot to put except mindstorm here...
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#38 LJS9502_basic
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I don't let other people bother me.....
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Im christian and they annoy me,Jesus main message was that worship can be done anywere and all churchs no matter how good their intentions at the start will eventualy become corrupt and self serving.And people still blindly go to churchs

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[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]Don't worry my branch of Christianity (Catholicism) is attacked by almost all 33,000 Protestant denominations I've learned to live with it.mindstorm

*big hug from a Protestant*

As I said a few posts ago, "Christians are simply my brothers and sisters that I fight with... but love like family." :) :wink:

Funny, I came across this the other day when I was lurking in the Christian Union. Very conciliatory.

Hense one of the reasons I will not call a Mormon a Christian. They say that Jesus is the cornerstone of their faith just like Christianity but that simply is not true. They worship a different Christ, a heretical and unworthy Christ. I'm sorry that what I say might offend you Android but I will not and cannot accept you as a brother. You are not one of us.

Mormonism is but selfish at it's roots, with it's followers wishing to become as gods, thinking themselves to one day become as holy as Jesus Christ. He alone is worthy of worship. He alone is the one and true God, there is no other. Mormonism is nothing but a cult, no different than Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Science, and Scientology. The Scriptures were completed with the book of Revelation, all other "revelations" are heretical and false. I make no apologies for my words.

I do not mind debating with you, but I do not count you as a brother and will not unless you repent of your false teachings and heretical ways. I know I may sound harsh, but the occasion calls for it.

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#41 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"]

*big hug from a Protestant*

As I said a few posts ago, "Christians are simply my brothers and sisters that I fight with... but love like family." :) :wink:

D_Battery

Funny, I came across this the other day when I was lurking in the Christian Union. Very conciliatory.

Hense one of the reasons I will not call a Mormon a Christian. They say that Jesus is the cornerstone of their faith just like Christianity but that simply is not true. They worship a different Christ, a heretical and unworthy Christ. I'm sorry that what I say might offend you Android but I will not and cannot accept you as a brother. You are not one of us.

Mormonism is but selfish at it's roots, with it's followers wishing to become as gods, thinking themselves to one day become as holy as Jesus Christ. He alone is worthy of worship. He alone is the one and true God, there is no other. Mormonism is nothing but a cult, no different than Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Science, and Scientology. The Scriptures were completed with the book of Revelation, all other "revelations" are heretical and false. I make no apologies for my words.

I do not mind debating with you, but I do not count you as a brother and will not unless you repent of your false teachings and heretical ways. I know I may sound harsh, but the occasion calls for it.

mindstorm

Keep in mind me and the person I was speaking to get along just fine. I call him my friend, I just can't call him a brother in Christ. :wink:

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So where is the line drawn, are Eastern Orthodox members brothers? What about Non-Chalcedonians and Nestorians?

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Perfectly normal. I believe in God, but i don't necessarily believe in man. Hence, I have my beliefs, which so happen to include a higher power, but I have very little faith in any church.
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#44 mindstorm
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So where is the line drawn, are Eastern Orthodox members brothers? What about Non-Chalcedonians and Nestorians?

D_Battery

When someone believes something that is against a primary doctrine of Scripture and calls himself a Christian, they are by definition a heretic. People who teach false doctrine are simply not to be talked to in the same way. However, even though I might seem harsh, it is in love. Just as a father disciplines his child, Christians are called to discipline one another in an effort to sanctify ourselves in Christ. With that said, any "unkind" word that I say is kind in the fact that it is meant to bring a person closer to Christ. That is what a person who calls himself a Christian wants is it not? People who call themselves Christians should actually expect such words.

Because this is such a huge topic, you can watch a sermon on this if you like here. I recommend it. :D

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[QUOTE="D_Battery"]

So where is the line drawn, are Eastern Orthodox members brothers? What about Non-Chalcedonians and Nestorians?

mindstorm

When someone believes something that is against a primary doctrine of Scripture and calls himself a Christian, they are by definition a heretic. People who teach false doctrine are simply not to be talked to in the same way. However, even though I might seem harsh, it is in love. Just as a father disciplines his child, Christians are called to discipline one another in an effort to sanctify ourselves in Christ. With that said, any "unkind" word that I say is kind in the fact that it is meant to bring a person closer to Christ. That is what a person who calls himself a Christian wants is it not? People who call themselves Christians should actually expect such words.

Because this is such a huge topic, you can watch a sermon on this if you like here. I recommend it. :D

Christ would have still called him brother.....

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Quite often. Sometimes I wonder if they annoy me more than the angry atheists. Probably not, but it's close sometimes.
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[QUOTE="D_Battery"]

So where is the line drawn, are Eastern Orthodox members brothers? What about Non-Chalcedonians and Nestorians?

mindstorm

When someone believes something that is against a primary doctrine of Scripture and calls himself a Christian, they are by definition a heretic. People who teach false doctrine are simply not to be talked to in the same way. However, even though I might seem harsh, it is in love. Just as a father disciplines his child, Christians are called to discipline one another in an effort to sanctify ourselves in Christ. With that said, any "unkind" word that I say is kind in the fact that it is meant to bring a person closer to Christ. That is what a person who calls himself a Christian wants is it not? People who call themselves Christians should actually expect such words.

Because this is such a huge topic, you can watch a sermon on this if you like here. I recommend it. :D

Being harsh is never the sameas demonstrating love. Scripture tells us that God is love and I refuse to believe that God is harsh, as well. Being "harsh" is an invented human trait. To say that God is capable of being "harsh" is to say that God is capable of being as flawed as the inventions of hisflawed creations.

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#48 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"]

[QUOTE="D_Battery"]

So where is the line drawn, are Eastern Orthodox members brothers? What about Non-Chalcedonians and Nestorians?

LJS9502_basic

When someone believes something that is against a primary doctrine of Scripture and calls himself a Christian, they are by definition a heretic. People who teach false doctrine are simply not to be talked to in the same way. However, even though I might seem harsh, it is in love. Just as a father disciplines his child, Christians are called to discipline one another in an effort to sanctify ourselves in Christ. With that said, any "unkind" word that I say is kind in the fact that it is meant to bring a person closer to Christ. That is what a person who calls himself a Christian wants is it not? People who call themselves Christians should actually expect such words.

Because this is such a huge topic, you can watch a sermon on this if you like here. I recommend it. :D

Christ would have still called him brother.....

You'd really have to read our whole conversation to really understand all that was going on. I never denied that he knew Christ, however, much of what he believes is completely different than primary doctrines of the faith (example, God has always been God and did not start out as a man). Though I did not deny his salvation, I told him my conscious simply cannot let me call him a brother in Christ. He might belong to Christ, but there are just so many differences I just cannot be sure. Later on in the conversation, I calmed down and we began to have a civil conversation. I said what I said because I felt it was needed at that point in the conversation.
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#49 starfox15
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This kind of schism has existed within organized christianity for centuries. People just can't get along, even when all the basic teachings are the same. This is another reason why I left it in the first place. People can't even agree on basic teachings within christianity. And then they come down on other people and sometimes even relatives for trivial reasons that don't matter.

Be open-minded and just accept that there are different ways of worship within religion. The best thing to to as a christian would be to teach this to your children if you ever have any and follow it yourself.

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#50 mindstorm
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Being harsh is never the sameas demonstrating love. Scripture tells us that God is love and I refuse to believe that God is harsh, as well. Being "harsh" is an invented human trait. To say that God is capable of being "harsh" is to say that God is capable of being as flawed as the inventions of hisflawed creations.

drj077

I take it you've never read Matthew 23... Here are some of Jesus' own words to the Pharisees. Keep in mind, Jesus only spoke like this to the ultra religious people, not the "sheep in need of a shepherd." (In other words, it would be an extremely rare occasion that I would speak to an atheist/agnostic/new Christian like this)

Verses 27-33 - Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean. In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness. "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. And you say, 'If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.' So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers! "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

And btw, having hard words is not wrong especially if they are true and trying to correct someone. Often times it is hard words that makes someone turn away from an unrighteous path. In America we seem to have forgotten about this...