[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]Sooooo... hat if a woman is born infertile? Like she can't have a baby? I guess it's okay to beat her up then huh? Or what if she never had any kids, and doesn't get her periods anymore. Your logic is so flawed. Your dad let your mom slap him around, and he just stayed. Hmmm.. Sounds like he's the wimp. There's nothing manly about staying with someone who slaps you when they want. And you said something about her being drunk or angry? So I guess it's okay for a guy who's ina relationship with a larger, stronger woman to beat her up when he's drunk, or angry? Your logic is so messed up. hahaha, you just called my dad a wimp for not beating my mom, oh man your a funny one, alright man thanks for the laugh good night, this is the internet so anything you say i honestly can't take seriously, hahahahaa How in the hell did you get that? And honestly, your mom sounds like a coward for betingsomeone who she knows woulnt dare to her her back. A classic bully in a skirt. I betyou that i he would o her her once, or threatened divorce she would see tat it'snot okay, instead of letting his children be exposed to that. An just as a si note, because of you ideas, you're te kind of man who can end up in an abusive reltationship, just like your dad.theres a difference between restraining a women and hitting her DUDE, in my family putting hands on a woman means your basically a wimp, if she isn't holding a weapon or something coming for your life. You walk away, thats it, you cool down and just walk away, theres been times my mom would slap my dad, sometimes he deserved it and other times my mom was just really really angry with him and she went overboard. My father always told me never put your hands on a woman, she's probably just really upset with you and can't contain her emotions or just drunk, either way you as a man do not hit her, the most you do is grab her arms and hold it till she comes down. This isn't about being sexist or anything, can guys give birth/ do guys go through periods? no, obviously women have different bodies and things then guys hmmm doesn't that make us not equal so gtfo of here with that sexist talk. Dude if your okay with striking back against a woman thats the way you were raised but me, i was raised to respect women since they give birth to our children and all that, I don't care if she hits me first, i'm not going to handle the situation like an adult and diffuse the situation without anyone getting hurt. All you guys on here never been in that situation and please tell me of a situation where you need to strike a girl, if she's hitting you walk way, thats the manly thing. Again, there are girls out there that can definitely keep my butt, but i'll never strike a woman down unless has a gun or knife.
Chris_Williams
is it ok to hit a girl if she hits you first
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]
[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"] Like I said before she would of followed him. She attacked him after she took the baby from him. Bottom line.
-Big_Red-
How do you presume to know what would happen if he just left...which he did not do in either situation.
He chose to stay. This says just as much about him as it does her.
I would like to know what your basis is for predicting future human behavior.
She would of followed him, im telling you, I know she would of. Remember when she was sitting on the bed? She came at him, while he was leaving with the baby. Hell she didn't do that because he loves the bby so much, she doesn't even car about her,because righ tnow Gary has full custody, and rightfully so, but she doesn't even care. Common sense would tell you that she would follow him i just about any other situation.And I am asking what your basis is for such an assumption.
Have you studied human behavior?
Do you have a degree in a related area?
Maybe volunteer work at a shelter?
Research work for a professor?
Earlier you made an assertion about brain development. When I pressed you on it you were not able to provide any basis for it.
I am just wondering where your projections come from...
hahaha, you just called my dad a wimp for not beating my mom, oh man your a funny one, alright man thanks for the laugh good night, this is the internet so anything you say i honestly can't take seriously, hahahahaa How in the hell did you get that? And honestly, your mom sounds like a coward for betingsomeone who she knows woulnt dare to her her back. A classic bully in a skirt. I betyou that i he would o her her once, or threatened divorce she would see tat it'snot okay, instead of letting his children be exposed to that. An just as a si note, because of you ideas, you're te kind of man who can end up in an abusive reltationship, just like your dad. okay brah, if that will make you feel better brah[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="-Big_Red-"] Sooooo... hat if a woman is born infertile? Like she can't have a baby? I guess it's okay to beat her up then huh? Or what if she never had any kids, and doesn't get her periods anymore. Your logic is so flawed. Your dad let your mom slap him around, and he just stayed. Hmmm.. Sounds like he's the wimp. There's nothing manly about staying with someone who slaps you when they want. And you said something about her being drunk or angry? So I guess it's okay for a guy who's ina relationship with a larger, stronger woman to beat her up when he's drunk, or angry? Your logic is so messed up.-Big_Red-
[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] Where did I say you were :? Also, I see you avoided all the other parts...oddrawsavonYou just said that I advocate violence against women. Theats your sly little wayof calling me an abusive spouse. And I don't exactly know when the brain is done developing but its not at three. Toddlers hit alot, I should know, I have nieces, and nephews. And you just made that analogy of a woman being like a three year old. It just came off as really really sexist. So you made an assertion about brain development, but you also say you don't know when the brain develops and how/if it correlates to hitting others:? ...seems an odd assertion to make then without any backup or background in that field. Furthermore, saying that you are advocating reciprocal violence against women =/= saying you abuse women...far from it Lets get something straight here.... We both know that the brain isn't fully developed at three. Mmmkk? And another thing. If my girlfriend hit me, I'd just break up with her, because I wouldn't hitmy girlfriend, because well.... She's my girlfriend :). I'm reffering to some random chick.
She would of followed him, im telling you, I know she would of. Remember when she was sitting on the bed? She came at him, while he was leaving with the baby. Hell she didn't do that because he loves the bby so much, she doesn't even car about her,because righ tnow Gary has full custody, and rightfully so, but she doesn't even care. Common sense would tell you that she would follow him i just about any other situation.[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"]
[QUOTE="rawsavon"]
How do you presume to know what would happen if he just left...which he did not do in either situation.
He chose to stay. This says just as much about him as it does her.I would like to know what your basis is for predicting future human behavior.
rawsavon
And I am asking what your basis is for such an assumption.
Have you studied human behavior?
Do you have a degree in a related area?
Maybe volunteer work at a shelter?
Research work for a professor?
Earlier you made an assertion about brain development. When I pressed you on it you were not able to provide any basis for it.
I am just wondering where your projections come from...
Yes, it is ok to defend yourself.
hahaha, you just called my dad a wimp for not beating my mom, oh man your a funny one, alright man thanks for the laugh good night, this is the internet so anything you say i honestly can't take seriously, hahahahaaChris_WilliamsHow in the hell did you get that? And honestly, your mom sounds like a coward for betingsomeone who she knows woulnt dare to her her back. A classic bully in a skirt. I betyou that i he would o her her once, or threatened divorce she would see tat it'snot okay, instead of letting his children be exposed to that. An just as a si note, because of you ideas, you're te kind of man who can end up in an abusive reltationship, just like your dad. okay brah, if that will make you feel better brah Exactly... When you don't have anything to say, you just go on with mindless drabble. Maybe you belong in a place like yahoo answers, instead of gamespot.
[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="-Big_Red-"] You just said that I advocate violence against women. Theats your sly little wayof calling me an abusive spouse. And I don't exactly know when the brain is done developing but its not at three. Toddlers hit alot, I should know, I have nieces, and nephews. And you just made that analogy of a woman being like a three year old. It just came off as really really sexist.-Big_Red-So you made an assertion about brain development, but you also say you don't know when the brain develops and how/if it correlates to hitting others:? ...seems an odd assertion to make then without any backup or background in that field. Furthermore, saying that you are advocating reciprocal violence against women =/= saying you abuse women...far from it Lets get something straight here.... We both know that the brain isn't fully developed at three. Mmmkk? And another thing. If my girlfriend hit me, I'd just break up with her, because I wouldn't hitmy girlfriend, because well.... She's my girlfriend :). I'm reffering to some random chick.
I do know when the brain is usually developed...that was not the issue though (as I made no assertions about it, you did).
You also asserted that brain maturation causes and/or has a correlation with decreased violence.
The burden of support for the argument is on you b/c you were the one to make the assertion, not I.
Throughout the last several pages you have said that you would hit any girl b/c you are not sexist...now a change...hmmm....interesting.
Your exact quote:
So if a woman were to ever hit me she'd be wrong. Just like I would hit a man back if he hit me, I'd d a woman just the same. I don't descrimintate you do.
Seems a wild inconsistency IMO
[QUOTE="rawsavon"]
[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"] She would of followed him, im telling you, I know she would of. Remember when she was sitting on the bed? She came at him, while he was leaving with the baby. Hell she didn't do that because he loves the bby so much, she doesn't even car about her,because righ tnow Gary has full custody, and rightfully so, but she doesn't even care. Common sense would tell you that she would follow him i just about any other situation.
-Big_Red-
And I am asking what your basis is for such an assumption.
Have you studied human behavior?
Do you have a degree in a related area?
Maybe volunteer work at a shelter?
Research work for a professor?
Earlier you made an assertion about brain development. When I pressed you on it you were not able to provide any basis for it.
I am just wondering where your projections come from...
[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] So you made an assertion about brain development, but you also say you don't know when the brain develops and how/if it correlates to hitting others:? ...seems an odd assertion to make then without any backup or background in that field. Furthermore, saying that you are advocating reciprocal violence against women =/= saying you abuse women...far from itrawsavonLets get something straight here.... We both know that the brain isn't fully developed at three. Mmmkk? And another thing. If my girlfriend hit me, I'd just break up with her, because I wouldn't hitmy girlfriend, because well.... She's my girlfriend :). I'm reffering to some random chick. I do know when the brain is usually developed...that was not the issue though (as I made no assertions about it, you did). You also asserted that brain maturation causes and/or has a correlation with decreased violence. The burden of support for the argument is on you b/c you were the one to make the assertion, not I. Throughout the last several pages you have said that you would hit any girl b/c you are not sexist...now a change...hmmm....interesting. Your exact quote: So if a woman were to ever hit me she'd be wrong. Just like I would hit a man back if he hit me, I'd d a woman just the same. I don't descrimintate you do. Seems a wild inconsistency IMO Dude. there are always cases. Like i wouldn't hit someone in a wheelchair, or somone on cruches. There are always different situations.Everyone knows that toddlers hit, and stop condeming me because I said I wouldn't hit my girlfriend, I also wouldn't stick around for the abuse either. I try to keep th violent thoughts the plague my mind out of my relationships.
Hey CHRIS!! News FLASH!!! You can't subdue the above woman without putting your hands on her. If a weaker guy hit you would youhit him back? Yep. But if a stronger woman hit you, yu wouldn't hit her back? You're freaking sexist dude.[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]
meh, well we where obviously raised differently unless she has a gun and is threatening me with it or a knife or something then yeah i'm going to do everything i can to subdue her but i'm never putting my hand on a unarmed woman, thats just not my scene, ya digs
Chris_Williams
theres a difference between restraining a women and hitting her DUDE, in my family putting hands on a woman means your basically a wimp, if she isn't holding a weapon or something coming for your life. You walk away, thats it, you cool down and just walk away, theres been times my mom would slap my dad, sometimes he deserved it and other times my mom was just really really angry with him and she went overboard. My father always told me never put your hands on a woman, she's probably just really upset with you and can't contain her emotions or just drunk, either way you as a man do not hit her, the most you do is grab her arms and hold it till she comes down. This isn't about being sexist or anything, can guys give birth/ do guys go through periods? no, obviously women have different bodies and things then guys hmmm doesn't that make us not equal so gtfo of here with that sexist talk. Dude if your okay with striking back against a woman thats the way you were raised but me, i was raised to respect women since they give birth to our children and all that, I don't care if she hits me first, i'm not going to handle the situation like an adult and diffuse the situation without anyone getting hurt. All you guys on here never been in that situation and please tell me of a situation where you need to strike a girl, if she's hitting you walk way, thats the manly thing. Again, there are girls out there that can definitely keep my butt, but i'll never strike a woman down unless has a gun or knife.
I definantely agree with the grabbing them by the arms and holding them till they calm down.-_- Everyone knows that toddlers hit alot. Thats common sense. And you are attributing that to brain maturation only? I would like to know that scientific basis for such an assertion. No but it's definitely one of the reasons.[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"]
[QUOTE="rawsavon"]
And I am asking what your basis is for such an assumption.
Have you studied human behavior?
Do you have a degree in a related area?
Maybe volunteer work at a shelter?
Research work for a professor?Earlier you made an assertion about brain development. When I pressed you on it you were not able to provide any basis for it.
I am just wondering where your projections come from...rawsavon
[QUOTE="fmacraze"]shove a live grenade down her throat. then come up from behind her a knife her neck, thus chopping her head off pull her head off then stick yur rpg down her body and watch everything go kabooooooooom!-Big_Red-Sir... I like the way you think . From reading a lot of your responses in this topic its quite easy for someone to surmise that you are anti women and see absolutely no problem with violence against women. That, in my opinion, is just wrong.
[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="-Big_Red-"] Lets get something straight here.... We both know that the brain isn't fully developed at three. Mmmkk? And another thing. If my girlfriend hit me, I'd just break up with her, because I wouldn't hitmy girlfriend, because well.... She's my girlfriend :). I'm reffering to some random chick.-Big_Red-I do know when the brain is usually developed...that was not the issue though (as I made no assertions about it, you did). You also asserted that brain maturation causes and/or has a correlation with decreased violence. The burden of support for the argument is on you b/c you were the one to make the assertion, not I. Throughout the last several pages you have said that you would hit any girl b/c you are not sexist...now a change...hmmm....interesting. Your exact quote: So if a woman were to ever hit me she'd be wrong. Just like I would hit a man back if he hit me, I'd d a woman just the same. I don't descrimintate you do. Seems a wild inconsistency IMO Dude. there are always cases. Like i wouldn't hit someone in a wheelchair, or somone on cruches. There are always different situations.Everyone knows that toddlers hit, and stop condeming me because I said I wouldn't hit my girlfriend, I also wouldn't stick around for the abuse either. I try to keep th violent thoughts the plague my mind out of my relationships. That is counter to everything you said ITT so far. You accused people of being sexist b/c they have conditions for not hitting another human (being a woman) just like you have conditions for not hitting another human (your GF, wheelchair, etc) Your posts have been very inconsistent (as just shown), and they have lacked any evidence when asked for some to support the points you have tried to make :?
And you are attributing that to brain maturation only? I would like to know that scientific basis for such an assertion. No but it's definitely one of the reasons. What is the basis for this assertion? Also, acknowledging that there are other factors negates the point you made.[QUOTE="rawsavon"]
[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"] -_- Everyone knows that toddlers hit alot. Thats common sense.
-Big_Red-
It depends... what is her DR?
[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="fmacraze"]shove a live grenade down her throat. then come up from behind her a knife her neck, thus chopping her head off pull her head off then stick yur rpg down her body and watch everything go kabooooooooom!l0veSir... I like the way you think . From reading a lot of your responses in this topic its quite easy for someone to surmise that you are anti women and see absolutely no problem with violence against women. That, in my opinion, is just wrong. Did you not see the ":P" smiley in that post? I coulda swore I put one there, I was just kidding :?.
[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] I do know when the brain is usually developed...that was not the issue though (as I made no assertions about it, you did). You also asserted that brain maturation causes and/or has a correlation with decreased violence. The burden of support for the argument is on you b/c you were the one to make the assertion, not I. Throughout the last several pages you have said that you would hit any girl b/c you are not sexist...now a change...hmmm....interesting. Your exact quote: So if a woman were to ever hit me she'd be wrong. Just like I would hit a man back if he hit me, I'd d a woman just the same. I don't descrimintate you do. Seems a wild inconsistency IMOrawsavonDude. there are always cases. Like i wouldn't hit someone in a wheelchair, or somone on cruches. There are always different situations.Everyone knows that toddlers hit, and stop condeming me because I said I wouldn't hit my girlfriend, I also wouldn't stick around for the abuse either. I try to keep th violent thoughts the plague my mind out of my relationships. That is counter to everything you said ITT so far. You accused people of being sexist b/c they have conditions for not hitting another human (being a woman) just like you have conditions for not hitting another human (your GF, wheelchair, etc) Your posts have been very inconsistent (as just shown), and they have lacked any evidence when asked for some to support the points you have tried to make :? I thought that we were talking about girls in general? So therefore I was talking in general. And they're sexist for not hitting a female, but hitting a male. People have been beaten pretty badly, or worse for underestimating somebody. And all I was saying is that everybody knows thattoddlers hit. I didn't know that I would have to back this up, I thought everyone knew. Don't you know that toddlers hit?
[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="fmacraze"]shove a live grenade down her throat. then come up from behind her a knife her neck, thus chopping her head off pull her head off then stick yur rpg down her body and watch everything go kabooooooooom!l0veSir... I like the way you think . From reading a lot of your responses in this topic its quite easy for someone to surmise that you are anti women and see absolutely no problem with violence against women. That, in my opinion, is just wrong. I did put a freaking ":P" Smiley after that post, I just looked back at it. Hmmm... I wonder why you chose to delete it, and demonise me? Hmmmmm....
[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="-Big_Red-"] Dude. there are always cases. Like i wouldn't hit someone in a wheelchair, or somone on cruches. There are always different situations.Everyone knows that toddlers hit, and stop condeming me because I said I wouldn't hit my girlfriend, I also wouldn't stick around for the abuse either. I try to keep th violent thoughts the plague my mind out of my relationships.-Big_Red-That is counter to everything you said ITT so far. You accused people of being sexist b/c they have conditions for not hitting another human (being a woman) just like you have conditions for not hitting another human (your GF, wheelchair, etc) Your posts have been very inconsistent (as just shown), and they have lacked any evidence when asked for some to support the points you have tried to make :? I thought that we were talking about girls in general? So therefore I was talking in general. And they're sexist for not hitting a female, but hitting a male. People have been beaten pretty badly, or worse for underestimating somebody. And all I was saying is that everybody knows thattoddlers hit. I didn't know that I would have to back this up, I thought everyone knew. Don't you know that toddlers hit? You say people are sexist for not hitting women, Yet you just said that you would not hit a handicapped person (wheelchair or crutches). They are just as able to beat you up as any girl. ...so if men that will not hit women are sexist, does that make someone that will not hit a handicapped person discriminatory as well...hmmm... Also, you made some wild (and inaccurate) assertions about brain maturation/human development and a decrease in violence. Basically, everything you said was inaccurate when it comes to that area. I was attempting to show that to you in a way that prompted you to provide support (for which there would be none...causing you to see/learn it for yourself)
[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] That is counter to everything you said ITT so far. You accused people of being sexist b/c they have conditions for not hitting another human (being a woman) just like you have conditions for not hitting another human (your GF, wheelchair, etc) Your posts have been very inconsistent (as just shown), and they have lacked any evidence when asked for some to support the points you have tried to make :?rawsavonI thought that we were talking about girls in general? So therefore I was talking in general. And they're sexist for not hitting a female, but hitting a male. People have been beaten pretty badly, or worse for underestimating somebody. And all I was saying is that everybody knows thattoddlers hit. I didn't know that I would have to back this up, I thought everyone knew. Don't you know that toddlers hit? You say people are sexist for not hitting women, Yet you just said that you would not hit a handicapped person (wheelchair or crutches). They are just as able to beat you up as any girl. ...so if men that will not hit women are sexist, does that make someone that will not hit a handicapped person discriminatory as well...hmmm... Also, you made some wild (and inaccurate) assertions about brain maturation/human development and a decrease in violence. Basically, everything you said was inaccurate when it comes to that area. I was attempting to show that to you in a way that prompted you to provide support (for which there would be none...causing you to see/learn it for yourself) -_-..... Somone in a wheelchail is at a severe disadvantage. No matter how strong they are. They can't pu much power behind there punches, they can't tackle you, they can't headbutt you, they're punches probably don't have any reach to them because they can't really use all of thir arms length to its potential, they probbly can't kick because they're in a wheelchair. There;s just so mny things that they can't do. Same with someone on crunches. They're alot slower than they would be without them, offbalance, they're also probably injured becuse they're own crunches. They're just at a severe disadvantge. And as for the toddler thing because they're brains are still developing they can't really control their emotions too well, like an adult can. Peple in wheelchairs, ad crunces aenot just as abl to beat me up as any girl. For the reasons that I just stated.
[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="-Big_Red-"] I thought that we were talking about girls in general? So therefore I was talking in general. And they're sexist for not hitting a female, but hitting a male. People have been beaten pretty badly, or worse for underestimating somebody. And all I was saying is that everybody knows thattoddlers hit. I didn't know that I would have to back this up, I thought everyone knew. Don't you know that toddlers hit?-Big_Red-You say people are sexist for not hitting women, Yet you just said that you would not hit a handicapped person (wheelchair or crutches). They are just as able to beat you up as any girl. ...so if men that will not hit women are sexist, does that make someone that will not hit a handicapped person discriminatory as well...hmmm... Also, you made some wild (and inaccurate) assertions about brain maturation/human development and a decrease in violence. Basically, everything you said was inaccurate when it comes to that area. I was attempting to show that to you in a way that prompted you to provide support (for which there would be none...causing you to see/learn it for yourself) -_-..... Somone in a wheelchail is at a severe disadvantage. No matter how strong they are. They can't pu much power behind there punches, they can't tackle you, they can't headbutt you, they're punches probably don't have any reach to them because they can't really use all of thir arms length to its potential, they probbly can't kick because they're in a wheelchair. There;s just so mny things that they can't do. Same with someone on crunches. They're alot slower than they would be without them, offbalance, they're also probably injured becuse they're own crunches. They're just at a severe disadvantge. And as for the toddler thing because they're brains are still developing they can't really control their emotions too well, like an adult can. Peple in wheelchairs, ad crunces aenot just as abl to beat me up as any girl. For the reasons that I just stated. Women are at a disadvantage b/c they are genetically weaker than men (physical strength) Are there girls that are stronger than some men...yes Are there people in wheelchairs that could beat the hell out of most people...Yes So you view that people are sexist for not hitting women while it is fine for you to have standards for not hitting people is inconsistent at best. Also, you have not shown any support for your assertion about brain maturation :?
[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] You say people are sexist for not hitting women, Yet you just said that you would not hit a handicapped person (wheelchair or crutches). They are just as able to beat you up as any girl. ...so if men that will not hit women are sexist, does that make someone that will not hit a handicapped person discriminatory as well...hmmm... Also, you made some wild (and inaccurate) assertions about brain maturation/human development and a decrease in violence. Basically, everything you said was inaccurate when it comes to that area. I was attempting to show that to you in a way that prompted you to provide support (for which there would be none...causing you to see/learn it for yourself)rawsavon-_-..... Somone in a wheelchail is at a severe disadvantage. No matter how strong they are. They can't pu much power behind there punches, they can't tackle you, they can't headbutt you, they're punches probably don't have any reach to them because they can't really use all of thir arms length to its potential, they probbly can't kick because they're in a wheelchair. There;s just so mny things that they can't do. Same with someone on crunches. They're alot slower than they would be without them, offbalance, they're also probably injured becuse they're own crunches. They're just at a severe disadvantge. And as for the toddler thing because they're brains are still developing they can't really control their emotions too well, like an adult can. Peple in wheelchairs, ad crunces aenot just as abl to beat me up as any girl. For the reasons that I just stated. Women are at a disadvantage b/c they are genetically weaker than men (physical strength) Are there girls that are stronger than some men...yes Are there people in wheelchairs that could beat the hell out of most people...Yes So you view that people are sexist for not hitting women while it is fine for you to have standards for not hitting people is inconsistent at best. Also, you have not shown any support for your assertion about brain maturation :? They are, but they're not at an extreme disadvantage. And have you heard about a little something a like to call, kicked in the nuts? Plus, a woman can do damage, just usually not as much as a man. So if you can do damage, and yu try to fight me, then you are a threat. And they know that they're were stronger than them, yet they hit us anyway, because they expect not to get hit back. That blatant cowardice. If you fight someone whie they're in a wheelchair, you will not lose. Unless you're about s dangerous as a box of kittens. Declawed kittens.
Women are at a disadvantage b/c they are genetically weaker than men (physical strength) Are there girls that are stronger than some men...yes Are there people in wheelchairs that could beat the hell out of most people...Yes So you view that people are sexist for not hitting women while it is fine for you to have standards for not hitting people is inconsistent at best. Also, you have not shown any support for your assertion about brain maturation :? They are, but they're not at an extreme disadvantage. And have you heard about a little something a like to call, kicked in the nuts? Plus, a woman can do damage, just usually not as much as a man. So if you can do damage, and yu try to fight me, then you are a threat. And they know that they're were stronger than them, yet they hit us anyway, because they expect not to get hit back. That blatant cowardice. If you fight someone whie they're in a wheelchair, you will not lose. Unless you're about s dangerous as a box of kittens. Declawed kittens. Several issues: 1. You said you would not hit your GF...that is a blatant contradiction to what you just posted above (you said earlier you would hit any woman, then changed it, and now changed again) 2. There are able bodies people that are quite capable of fighting from a wheelchair -you are saying that one lesser threat (wheelchair) should be ignored while another lesser threat (women) should be hit...that is a contradiction 3. You still have not provided any support for your maturation of the brain argument -by your assertion, violent adults simply lack mature brains :? (which is incorrect)[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="-Big_Red-"] -_-..... Somone in a wheelchail is at a severe disadvantage. No matter how strong they are. They can't pu much power behind there punches, they can't tackle you, they can't headbutt you, they're punches probably don't have any reach to them because they can't really use all of thir arms length to its potential, they probbly can't kick because they're in a wheelchair. There;s just so mny things that they can't do. Same with someone on crunches. They're alot slower than they would be without them, offbalance, they're also probably injured becuse they're own crunches. They're just at a severe disadvantge. And as for the toddler thing because they're brains are still developing they can't really control their emotions too well, like an adult can. Peple in wheelchairs, ad crunces aenot just as abl to beat me up as any girl. For the reasons that I just stated.-Big_Red-
[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]
If woman want to be treated equally, well .......
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worlock77
I laughed way harder than I should have at this.
the guys face is just priceless.[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="cyborg9"]
hmmmm i'll end this thread like this... go make a sandmich
Is bad that I laughed? :( But I'd really like to know why he did that. I know it's amovie, but I wanna know the backstory.She didn't make him a sandwhich, after voting for president and getting a job making as much as he did.
Well she atleast stll obviously wanted his ****. :PWomen are at a disadvantage b/c they are genetically weaker than men (physical strength) Are there girls that are stronger than some men...yes Are there people in wheelchairs that could beat the hell out of most people...Yes So you view that people are sexist for not hitting women while it is fine for you to have standards for not hitting people is inconsistent at best. Also, you have not shown any support for your assertion about brain maturation :?rawsavonThey are, but they're not at an extreme disadvantage. And have you heard about a little something a like to call, kicked in the nuts? Plus, a woman can do damage, just usually not as much as a man. So if you can do damage, and yu try to fight me, then you are a threat. And they know that they're were stronger than them, yet they hit us anyway, because they expect not to get hit back. That blatant cowardice. If you fight someone whie they're in a wheelchair, you will not lose. Unless you're about s dangerous as a box of kittens. Declawed kittens. Several issues: 1. You said you would not hit your GF...that is a blatant contradiction to what you just posted above (you said earlier you would hit any woman, then changed it, and now changed again) 2. There are able bodies people that are quite capable of fighting from a wheelchair -you are saying that one lesser threat (wheelchair) should be ignored while another lesser threat (women) should be hit...that is a contradiction 3. You still have not provided any support for your maturation of the brain argument -by your assertion, violent adults simply lack mature brains :? (which is incorrect) 1. Well, I'm sorry for not thinking my arguement through, I didn't know that it would have to provide that much detail, next time I'll remember to ;). 2. Someone in a wheelchair is a FAR lesser threat than pretty much any woman. Unless were dealing with freaking Joe Swanson from Family Guy.
[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="-Big_Red-"] They are, but they're not at an extreme disadvantage. And have you heard about a little something a like to call, kicked in the nuts? Plus, a woman can do damage, just usually not as much as a man. So if you can do damage, and yu try to fight me, then you are a threat. And they know that they're were stronger than them, yet they hit us anyway, because they expect not to get hit back. That blatant cowardice. If you fight someone whie they're in a wheelchair, you will not lose. Unless you're about s dangerous as a box of kittens. Declawed kittens.Several issues: 1. You said you would not hit your GF...that is a blatant contradiction to what you just posted above (you said earlier you would hit any woman, then changed it, and now changed again) 2. There are able bodies people that are quite capable of fighting from a wheelchair -you are saying that one lesser threat (wheelchair) should be ignored while another lesser threat (women) should be hit...that is a contradiction 3. You still have not provided any support for your maturation of the brain argument -by your assertion, violent adults simply lack mature brains :? (which is incorrect) 1. Well, I'm sorry for not thinking my arguement through, I didn't know that it would have to provide that much detail, next time I'll remember to ;). 2. Someone in a wheelchair is a FAR lesser threat than pretty much any woman. Unless were dealing with freaking Joe Swanson from Family Guy.-Big_Red-
1. When you make an assertion you should always be prepared to validate it ;)
-on a related note, you can expect to be pressed on something when you say something that is either:
a. inconsistent (your view on hitting one threat [women] and not another [handicapped people])
b. incorrect (your assertion about mental maturity and violence)
2. my guess is that you do not see many people in wheelchairs. Otherwise, you would be familiar with the many that still play sports, lead active lives, etc (ones that would be just as big a threat to a man as a woman)
When I said what I said about mental maturity, I only meant that someone who is not very mentally mature wouldnt be able to control their emotions very well, and thereby prone to hitting, like a toddler. And I'm just saying that women, are more of a threat than someone in a wheelchair, but I could be wrong because the only people who i've really seen in a wheelchair lately are two old ladies in my neighborhood. They're no threat to anyone, trust me.-Big_Red-Your assertions were wrong on both of those points (link between mental maturity and violence and people in wheel chairs). That is why I pressed you on them.
[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"]When I said what I said about mental maturity, I only meant that someone who is not very mentally mature wouldnt be able to control their emotions very well, and thereby prone to hitting, like a toddler. And I'm just saying that women, are more of a threat than someone in a wheelchair, but I could be wrong because the only people who i've really seen in a wheelchair lately are two old ladies in my neighborhood. They're no threat to anyone, trust me.rawsavonYour assertions were wrong on both of those points (link between mental maturity and violence and people in wheel chairs). That is why I pressed you on them. Not really. Toddlers do hit, and someone in a wheelchair is at a severe disadvantage.
[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="-Big_Red-"]When I said what I said about mental maturity, I only meant that someone who is not very mentally mature wouldnt be able to control their emotions very well, and thereby prone to hitting, like a toddler. And I'm just saying that women, are more of a threat than someone in a wheelchair, but I could be wrong because the only people who i've really seen in a wheelchair lately are two old ladies in my neighborhood. They're no threat to anyone, trust me.-Big_Red-Your assertions were wrong on both of those points (link between mental maturity and violence and people in wheel chairs). That is why I pressed you on them. Not really. Toddlers do hit, and someone in a wheelchair is at a severe disadvantage. Those were NOT your assertions. Your assertions were: 1. a toddler hits b/c of a lack of mental maturity...something that changes with age...this is false (how would you explain violent adults) 2. You should hit a woman b/c she is a threat but not a person in a wheelchair b/c they are not ...this is: a. inconsistent and b. false I can go dig up th posts, but that seems pointless IMO
[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] Your assertions were wrong on both of those points (link between mental maturity and violence and people in wheel chairs). That is why I pressed you on them.rawsavonNot really. Toddlers do hit, and someone in a wheelchair is at a severe disadvantage. Those were NOT your assertions. Your assertions were: 1. a toddler hits b/c of a lack of mental maturity...something that changes with age...this is false (how would you explain violent adults) 2. You should hit a woman b/c she is a threat but not a person in a wheelchair b/c they are not ...this is: a. inconsistent and b. false I can go dig up th posts, but that seems pointless IMO You change me rawsavon, I'd hit someone in a wheelchair. I am an extremely violent adult, but I'm not like tat because of mental immaturity, something bad had happened to me that made me like this. But I can control it, I think thats atleast partly because of my mental maturity.
[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="-Big_Red-"] Not really. Toddlers do hit, and someone in a wheelchair is at a severe disadvantage.-Big_Red-Those were NOT your assertions. Your assertions were: 1. a toddler hits b/c of a lack of mental maturity...something that changes with age...this is false (how would you explain violent adults) 2. You should hit a woman b/c she is a threat but not a person in a wheelchair b/c they are not ...this is: a. inconsistent and b. false I can go dig up th posts, but that seems pointless IMO You change me rawsavon, I'd hit someone in a wheelchair. I am an extremely violent adult, but I'm not like tat because of mental immaturity, something bad had happened to me that made me like this. But I can control it, I think thats atleast partly because of my mental maturity. Not the admission I was looking for, but I will take what I can get I guess. I had hoped that you would see the inconsistency in hitting women and not others and then not want to hit any of them...but you went the other way with it. But such is life on the internet I suppose.
[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="rawsavon"] Those were NOT your assertions. Your assertions were: 1. a toddler hits b/c of a lack of mental maturity...something that changes with age...this is false (how would you explain violent adults) 2. You should hit a woman b/c she is a threat but not a person in a wheelchair b/c they are not ...this is: a. inconsistent and b. false I can go dig up th posts, but that seems pointless IMOrawsavonYou change me rawsavon, I'd hit someone in a wheelchair. I am an extremely violent adult, but I'm not like tat because of mental immaturity, something bad had happened to me that made me like this. But I can control it, I think thats atleast partly because of my mental maturity. Not the admission I was looking for, but I will take what I can get I guess. I had hoped that you would see the inconsistency in hitting women and not others and then not want to hit any of them...but you went the other way with it. But such is life on the internet I suppose. So you would of preferred to turn me into a pacifist? Good luck with that :lol:.
Not the admission I was looking for, but I will take what I can get I guess. I had hoped that you would see the inconsistency in hitting women and not others and then not want to hit any of them...but you went the other way with it. But such is life on the internet I suppose. So you would of preferred to turn me into a pacifist? Good luck with that :lol:. Nope. My guess is that you did not really delve into my posts, but that is fine. I have enjoyed learning a lot about you :) With that, I am off.for the night.[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="-Big_Red-"] You change me rawsavon, I'd hit someone in a wheelchair. I am an extremely violent adult, but I'm not like tat because of mental immaturity, something bad had happened to me that made me like this. But I can control it, I think thats atleast partly because of my mental maturity.-Big_Red-
Not the admission I was looking for, but I will take what I can get I guess. I had hoped that you would see the inconsistency in hitting women and not others and then not want to hit any of them...but you went the other way with it. But such is life on the internet I suppose.rawsavonSo you would of preferred to turn me into a pacifist? Good luck with that :lol:. Nope. My guess is that you did not really delve into my posts, but that is fine. I have enjoyed learning a lot about you :) With that, I am off.for the night. G'night ;).
So do you think it's right to hit guys smaller than you?
Also, any girls here?
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