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But you are taking another human life away. Isnt there enough violence and destruction in the world? Couldnt you just knock them out?I'm sure if it was necessary, yes.
shoot-first
Well it depends on the situation because killing is not always the first option for self defensecyberdarkkid
I agree. Afterall, the first thing most people think about when in a fight is to disable the enemy, not kill.
No... Its okay to defend yourself. If you accidentally kill someone then its not your fault... But after you kick someones ass, that just attacted you... You can't just give them the final blow... That would be an intent to kill...
[QUOTE="shoot-first"]But you are taking another human life away. Isnt there enough violence and destruction in the world? Couldnt you just knock them out? Well considering that you didn't list a specific situation he added "if it was necessary".I'm sure if it was necessary, yes.
Rob0_Jesus
Yes, I think it is alright because some situations call for it. Sometimes there is no other way to protect yourself from another person's intention of harm or just flat out mental instability.
[QUOTE="shoot-first"]But you are taking another human life away. Isnt there enough violence and destruction in the world? Couldnt you just knock them out?I'm sure if it was necessary, yes.
Rob0_Jesus
There are times where such actions are necessary. They could end up hunting you down and killing YOU. Wouldn't your life be more important to you than some psycho's?
We were talking about this in morality class and wanted to know what you thought. Most of them said Hell Yes.Rob0_JesusYes I am completely fine with it. I wont even bother attacking someone unless they throw the first punch or something crazy like that, because the rest will be hell for them, and it will be legal.
If its just something like another lame high school bully trying to threaten me I would just kick him in the nuts regardless of self defense or not, his reputation as opposed to mine would easily give me the odds of winning it over for self defense.
I notice a lot of you guys are saying yes but do you really think you could go through with killing someone? I can but I would try to find any other way to stop a person before going down that path. Do you think about that persons family? Maybe he/she has wife and kids and the person you just killed was the only income the family was getting. Now that family is gonna die on the street. Killing one person just led to the death of more.Rob0_JesusI don't think anyone really knows until it happens. Additionally there are a lot of different situations where one might act, and one might choose not to act.
I notice a lot of you guys are saying yes but do you really think you could go through with killing someone? I can but I would try to find any other way to stop a person before going down that path. Do you think about that persons family? Maybe he/she has wife and kids and the person you just killed was the only income the family was getting. Now that family is gonna die on the street. Killing one person just led to the death of more.Rob0_JesusIm not thinking about his family when he's trying to kill me.
Its more than acceptable. If you can kill someone whose attacking you, by all means go all the way if you want.
If you don't, they're just going to get out of prison after a couple of months, maybe a few years, and he'll just attack someone weaker, kill them, and do what he failed to do to you to someone else.
I notice a lot of you guys are saying yes but do you really think you could go through with killing someone? I can but I would try to find any other way to stop a person before going down that path. Do you think about that persons family? Maybe he/she has wife and kids and the person you just killed was the only income the family was getting. Now that family is gonna die on the street. Killing one person just led to the death of more.Rob0_Jesus
I don't give a **** about his family. I don't give a **** about him.
Nobody is going to make me a victim, ever.
Of course if you think your welfare is in serious danger. That being said self defense turning into murder can go over board sometimes. For example if i've gotten into a fight and I completly go nutz on the guy killing him yeah that's a crime. If a guy pulls a knife on another dude then that's putting anothers person's life in danger.
So if I we're to come at you with a knife in a locked room you wouldn't even make an attempt to kill me? Seems pretty weakNo, it's against my philopophy to kill in self defence.
OnlyKurial
Only to the extent that is neccesary.
If you get into a fist fight and decide to kill the other guy, yeah.. no...
This, people seem a little "harsh" ie. saying it's ok to shoot a guy in the face if he punches you. As for coming into your house etc, a part of me says well he's only trying to steal your television, there's no need to kill him, beating him with a baseball bat or scaring him with your gun, though yeah he could have a gun etc. it really depends on the situation, but killing someone in self-defence shouldn't be intentional. If it was me personally I'd go downstairs, probably shoot a couple of shots to scare him off or shoot him in the leg or something, if he was standing there with a knife or my TV in his hand there's no way I'd aim at his head and shoot, that's just not reasonable (which might sound absurd since he's on your property) but the very worst that would come from the situation is you lose your television, is that really worth taking someone's life over so you can save your television? :lol: Thanks gamespot for messing up the html and removing the paragraphs :) Also reminds me of that shop worker who got arrested, his stored was robbed by some teenagers and he shot them both, they were both lying on the floor practically bleeding to death and they obviously posed no threat to the shop keeper at this point and he then walked over to them and shot them in the face. and people actually defended him.No... Its okay to defend yourself. If you accidentally kill someone then its not your fault... But after you kick someones ass, that just attacted you... You can't just give them the final blow... That would be an intent to kill...
xxxAdvocatexxx
Yes.
Besides.. humans kill things all the time without much consideration... from bugs.. to ourselves.
[QUOTE="Rob0_Jesus"]We were talking about this in morality class and wanted to know what you thought. Most of them said Hell Yes.ufcfan17
it depends on the situation really
Like if someone was just being a douche bag, that deserves a punch in the face or a kick in the nuts. But if someone was threatening to kill you or your friends or family, that deserves some killin in self defense. Yeah, ii does depend on the situation.
Hmm in the legal system it is okay to kill in self defence, but it depends on the situation, if they come at you with a knife or a gun then it will be okay to, but of course thats only in the legal system, I think it is not okay to kill someone in self defense only to knock them out, then call the police or something, I think that killing should be the last resort, if all other options fail.
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