[QUOTE="BranKetra"]I don't care. Your attempts at insulting me are a joke.Funky_Llama>2012 >is BranKetra I SHIGGITY DIGGITY DOO ROFL
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Whoa when did you switch sides?ambitious_pawnEither your sarcasm meter is broken, or you haven't been here in a month. Depending on which side you believed I switched to.
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]
I love how my opposition's comebacks are composed largely of "you're jimmies are rustled hurr hurr hurr".
Necrifer
LOL
dude i thought you were on my side
[QUOTE="coolbeans90"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]
coolbeans90, you and I both very well know that you are the one who is 10x more immature than me. You're pointing out a very minute detail in the grand scheme of things. Additionally, I think it's safe to assume that the language I used is not nescessarily immature, because it is the truth, and I personally feel there is no reason to sugar coat the truth.
kingkong0124
No, kingkong0124, I don't consider him to be any more immature than yourself. Your signature is effectively attempting to make a laugh out of another user's comments -- which is precisely no different than they are doing with your comments. And, yes, your language is something I'd expect from a 10-year-old. Depending on your age that may or may not be immature.
If you really are angry with my signature, I will remove it on your request bro.Immaturity doesn't really bother me, TBH. I'm only annoyed when people in glass houses throw stones.
for the sake of preserving this thread for the TC, let's stop arguing with each other.
kingkong0124
Ceasing fire.
This. There will always be the extreme and vocal side of the religions which give the competent, sane people a bad reputation. Personally, I think it should be beneficial, but the way some people go about it, it ends up being dangerous or considered dangerous. Damn Christian fundamentalists are just crazy.i think it can influence people to do good for others, and not do sins which bring greif to others, but i also think that there are too many religious bigots who bring distress to others for trivial reasons.
dissonantblack
It can be a bit of both, I think religion in it'self isn't the problem just certain people taking things to an extreame and being hypocirts about it. There have been, and still are, wars fought over relgious beliefs. But there are also people who are inspired by their religion to make the world a better place, like MLK Jr, Mother Terhesea ect...
Plus churches and synagouges ect...are one of the main soureces of charity providers in the world.
[QUOTE="ambitious_pawn"]Whoa when did you switch sides?foxhound_foxEither your sarcasm meter is broken, or you haven't been here in a month. Depending on which side you believed I switched to. Take it easy, we're on the same side.
The problem with religion is that it always includes that clause of how other people need to be converted. Its added so that more people will be a part of charity and stuff, but once the religion is big, it just becomes this diluted sense of self righteous BS.
Without that, there's nothing to fight over, right? So it certainly is beneficial. But its also very dangerous. Which carries more weight? Depends on who you ask.
It can be a bit of both, I think religion in it'self isn't the problem just certain people taking things to an extreame and being hypocirts about it. There have been, and still are, wars fought over relgious beliefs. But there are also people who are inspired by their religion to make the world a better place, like MLK Jr, Mother Terhesea ect...
Plus churches and synagouges ect...are one of the main soureces of charity providers in the world.
ShadowMoses900
Pretty much nailed it.
It can be a bit of both, I think religion in it'self isn't the problem just certain people taking things to an extreame and being hypocirts about it. There have been, and still are, wars fought over relgious beliefs. But there are also people who are inspired by their religion to make the world a better place, like MLK Jr, Mother Terhesea ect...
Plus churches and synagouges ect...are one of the main soureces of charity providers in the world.
ShadowMoses900
But Martin Luther King was homophobic because of his religious beliefs too. It goes both ways.
it's dangerous, it makes up the bulk of reason why war has been waged. terrible things have been done under "holy war" and ultimately it just seperates people and holds us all back from the establising of peace.
Depends on how you use it, like anything else. Ideology in general is a neutral concept that is shaped by men.
Christianity supposedly teaches not to kill, not to cheat, not to steal or sin in general. Things nobody should be doing, and these are good rules to live by. Of course if you turn them into a weapon of fear or twist them to your own agenda to get people to do what you want, that is dangerous.
And again, this just fits ideology. Patriotism isn't bad, you can love your country and do what you can to help your countrymen, but becoming nationalist and xenophobic is very bad.
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]
It can be a bit of both, I think religion in it'self isn't the problem just certain people taking things to an extreame and being hypocirts about it. There have been, and still are, wars fought over relgious beliefs. But there are also people who are inspired by their religion to make the world a better place, like MLK Jr, Mother Terhesea ect...
Plus churches and synagouges ect...are one of the main soureces of charity providers in the world.
Heisenderp
But Martin Luther King was homophobic because of his religious beliefs too. It goes both ways.
I think this is a good example. Mother Theresa was a good person, very good. She helped LOTS of people and is synonymous being a good pure person, but she made a few mistakes too. Her religion inspired her to be good, but it also meant she made things unnecessarily harder, so things like refusing pain medication and giving money to build more churches are things that religion probably made a little worse.
But in her case though, she used her belief for a very good reason and otherwise did a great job devoting her life to helping people. Really, though its purpose is good, anyone can shape it to their own end.
Considering how Christianity influenced European tribes to rise to sophisticated nations after the fall of Rome, and how Islam united Arabian tribes and people in the East, I think religion brought a fair amount of good. While religion has its fair share, secular nationalists had plenty of aggressive wars (WWI-WWII were purely out of secular nations, ib4 state's churches were controlling them).Victorious_FizeI can agree that organized religion has helped humanity mature, but it made humanity conform to its ideology. Which for the most part is syncretic, and has created more conflict, bigotry, and fear than almost anything else. Except for the democide of the last century. Religion has been responsible for a'lot of suffering as well.
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