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#1 postulio14
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What are your opinions on this?

 

Edit: Is it a sin that can be forgiven? 

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#2 steppinrazor88
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I would think it is :|
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#3 lzorro
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Uh yes.............
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#4 bastards12345
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Yes, a sin to yourself.
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#5 wiiforever25
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why yes, yes it is, and an instant trip to hell.  have fun.
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#6 Lobster_Ear
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No. It just hurts.
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#7 lycrof
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Only if your a christian.
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#8 yoshi-lnex
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Yes, one of the 10 commandments states "thought shall not kill"

that includes yourself.

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#9 ZeRo-ZeN
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Is it a sin? yes. Is it unforgivable? no. Can sin be forgiven after death? no.
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#10 postulio14
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I was just thinking because Luther had all these ideas that if you are truly possessed by Satan and are told to kill yourself, then God should somehow forgive you, but don't listen to me, I'm pretty tired right now, I post random stuff when I'm tired.
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#11 wiiforever25
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Only if your a christian.lycrof

lets put it better, if there is no god then it just kills you faster, but if there is a god, then it is an unforgivable, instant trip to hell.

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#12 Lobster_Ear
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What are your opinions on this?

 

Edit: Is it a sin that can be forgiven?

postulio14

DON'T DO IT DUDE! DON'T DO IT! 

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#14 BrokenDreams13
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Religion is dumb.  Believe in whatever you want.  If you think it's a sin then it is.  I personally don't think it is because I don't care about sins.
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#15 Ezgam3r
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Yes it is and no one can really forgive you if your dead.

Its a complete waste of human life.
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#16 RosetaStoned
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If you believe the bible it is. Unfortunately for any Christian with suicidal thoughts, they can't really ask for forgiveness after they died, so hello brimstone.
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#17 postulio14
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[QUOTE="postulio14"]

What are your opinions on this?

 

Edit: Is it a sin that can be forgiven?

Lobster_Ear

DON'T DO IT DUDE! DON'T DO IT!

 

I am by no means suicidal at all, just the idea of that makes me fell a bit sick. I mean geez I'm not gonna kill myself at 14. 

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#18 Lobster_Ear
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[QUOTE="lycrof"]Only if your a christian.wiiforever25

lets put it better, if there is no god then it just kills you faster, but if there is a god, then it is an unforgivable, instant trip to hell.

Not necessarily. For all we know, if there is a god, our ideas of "sins" may be different from his. All religions are different. It may be a sin for the christian religion, but not for many others.

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#19 haris1189
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it IS a sin in Islam, im not sure if its forgivable or not

 

 

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#20 Lobster_Ear
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[QUOTE="Lobster_Ear"][QUOTE="postulio14"]

What are your opinions on this?

 

Edit: Is it a sin that can be forgiven?

postulio14

DON'T DO IT DUDE! DON'T DO IT!

 

I am by no means suicidal at all, just the idea of that makes me fell a bit sick. I mean geez I'm not gonna kill myself at 14.

lol, I know. I was just joking.
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#21 cmhawk
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no. if sum1 is that unhappy that they just want 2 die then let them
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#22 MarioFanatic
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yes. "thou shalt not kill" you are technically killing yourself, and since you killed, you sinned, instant trip to hell.
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#23 Lobster_Ear
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yes. "thou shalt not kill" you are technically killing yourself, and since you killed, you sinned, instant trip to hell.MarioFanatic
But what if it's an "accident"?
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#24 lugiemojeed
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i dont think it should be
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#25 ZeRo-ZeN
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[QUOTE="MarioFanatic"]yes. "thou shalt not kill" you are technically killing yourself, and since you killed, you sinned, instant trip to hell.Lobster_Ear
But what if it's an "accident"?

you noticed a slight mistranslation. Kill in this sense means active (involved with/participates in).
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#26 Denjin_hadouken
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No.
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#27 grafkhun
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no it's not, read Nietzsche, i know i have said this many times but his work is really eye opening.
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#28 grafkhun
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Religion is dumb. Believe in whatever you want. If you think it's a sin then it is. I personally don't think it is because I don't care about sins.BrokenDreams13

"gives brokendreams13 20 bucks" 

[QUOTE="wiiforever25"]

[QUOTE="lycrof"]Only if your a christian.Lobster_Ear

lets put it better, if there is no god then it just kills you faster, but if there is a god, then it is an unforgivable, instant trip to hell.

Not necessarily. For all we know, if there is a god, our ideas of "sins" may be different from his. All religions are different. It may be a sin for the christian religion, but not for many others.

"gives lobster ear 20 bucks as well"

thanks both of you, that was what i was trying to say but i have trouble expressing. 

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#29 ZeRo-ZeN
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no it's not, read Nietzsche, i know i have said this many times but his work is really eye opening.grafkhun
I am not a fan of his philosophies
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#30 grafkhun
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[QUOTE="grafkhun"]no it's not, read Nietzsche, i know i have said this many times but his work is really eye opening.ZeRo-ZeN
I am not a fan of his philosophies

no fanboyism is neede just make sure u know what he is saying and i dont agree with his Christian views either, i am talking more about moral. 

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#31 metallica_fan42
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It's not one of the 7 deadly sins, so I guess not:P
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#32 blooddemon666
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Suicide is for p****** who can't just move on and man up with |ife. |ife is hard, buy a he|met.
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#33 Fortier
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If you believe in sin, then yes. Kill yourself and you'll go straight to Hell, so I'm also guessing its not a sin that can be forgiven.
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#34 Kalel559
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It's a pointless question really. Tons of things are sin, what's one more sin on top of that?

If you're a Christian then your sins are forgive. But realistically, why would any Christian want to commit suicide?

And if you're not a Christian then it doesn't matter if you have one more sin because you don't care about the whole issue anyways, right? 

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#35 ZeRo-ZeN
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If you believe in sin, then yes. Kill yourself and you'll go straight to Hell, so I'm also guessing its not a sin that can be forgiven.Fortier
all sins can be forgiven by God
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#36 ZeRo-ZeN
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It's a pointless question really. Tons of things are sin, what's one more sin on top of that?

If you're a Christian then your sins are forgive. But realistically, why would any Christian want to commit suicide?

And if you're not a Christian then it doesn't matter if you have one more sin because you don't care about the whole issue anyways, right?

Kalel559
well said
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#37 nobodyshero87
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its an unforgivably sin...
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#38 Ezgam3r
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[QUOTE="Fortier"]If you believe in sin, then yes. Kill yourself and you'll go straight to Hell, so I'm also guessing its not a sin that can be forgiven.ZeRo-ZeN
all sins can be forgiven by God

I Corinthians 3:16 Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you?
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If any one destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and that temple you are.

Naw your pretty much f'ed.

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#39 ZeRo-ZeN
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[QUOTE="ZeRo-ZeN"][QUOTE="Fortier"]If you believe in sin, then yes. Kill yourself and you'll go straight to Hell, so I'm also guessing its not a sin that can be forgiven.Ezgam3r

all sins can be forgiven by God

I Corinthians 3:16 Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you?
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If any one destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and that temple you are.

Naw your pretty much f'ed.

John 10:28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. edit: btw Paul is not just referring to our physical bodies. He is taking about our entire self.
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#40 BEAN_LARD_MULCH
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[QUOTE="ZeRo-ZeN"][QUOTE="Fortier"]If you believe in sin, then yes. Kill yourself and you'll go straight to Hell, so I'm also guessing its not a sin that can be forgiven.Ezgam3r

all sins can be forgiven by God

I Corinthians 3:16 Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you?
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If any one destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and that temple you are.

Naw your pretty much f'ed.

Nice avatar, rotating 24-cell

And yes, suicide is a sin. 

 

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#41 ZeRo-ZeN
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its an unforgivably sin...nobodyshero87
there is only one unforgivable sin and its not suicide
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#42 deadlypencil
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Well I dont know much about religion... But I know if you commit suicide you are not allowed to have a catholic/christain (dunno which) burial. Im sure some preists or whatever break that rule but your not suppose to get a proper burial if you commit suicide.

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#43 tomxizor
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[QUOTE="nobodyshero87"]its an unforgivably sin...ZeRo-ZeN
there is only one unforgivable sin and its not suicide

Yeah, it's watching The Wiggles on Playhouse Disney. :|

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#44 Gamezilla57
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Yes. God is the only one who has the right to take your life. It's the same thing as murdering....only your doing it to yourself.
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#45 Gamezilla57
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[QUOTE="ZeRo-ZeN"][QUOTE="nobodyshero87"]its an unforgivably sin...tomxizor

there is only one unforgivable sin and its not suicide

Yeah, it's watching The Wiggles on Playhouse Disney. :|

 

 

:lol:...I lawled on that one.

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#46 firebubbles
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not sure if it is a sin. depends on the faith i guess...

 but i do know it is against the law. stupid usa. law against suicide. how dumb is that, the violators are DEAD!

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#47 masterchief2512
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According to christian faith it is definitely a sin, but I'm not sure exactly how other religions feel about it.

Personally, I think it's usually (there are exceptions, like some euthanasia) a tremendously ****ed up thing to do, both for yourself and anyone who might care about you, but I don't believe any thing is completely unforgivable, and don't like any faith system that does. 

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#48 RiceKrispie
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hmm i was having this disscusion with a friend today and the way i saw it was ...that it is a sin because its murder. but since every sin is forgivable in my opinion as long as your REALLY sorry for it, but if you kill yourself then thats instant death and no time for regret..
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#49 NathanHawkins
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for the people claiming to uderstand the bible and at the same time claiming that it's an instant trip to hell...don't really know enough about the bible especially if including the new testament. when a person is saved in the christian belief they are saved always unless that person than denounces that belief regardless of future sins (and then one can bring in the various interpretations about a certain sin which according to less respected translations is unforgivable). Sampson for instance committed suicide in an attempt to win a battle, and he is regarded as being with God as the bible suggests.

 

edit: i thought of something that might be easier to understand...

 

let's say Mother Teresa jumped in front of a moving vehicle knowing that she was going to die but at the same save the life of the one the van barreled toward....would she instantly go to hell?  the question should really be for this topic does suicide necessarily lead to hell. 

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#50 kitty  Moderator
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its a big sin, probably one that wont be forgiven