Is there a limit to technology?

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#1 themajormayor
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I mean do you think we'll ever hit a "wall" where we can't come up with any new innovation?

Now if we have infinite time this will obviously happen some time. But thinking about how long you think humanity will exist, will we have hit the limit before we're extinct?

I think so. For example I doub't we'll ever see intergalactic travel. The distances are just too big, and they are for a reason. Someone obviously don't want us to travel to other galaxies and check out life there. Someone. lol.

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#2 Pirate700
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I doubt it. Just eventual slowdown, which we're already seeing now.

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#3 themajormayor
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I doubt it. Just eventual slowdown, which we're already seeing now.

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We are? Looks like the opposite to me.
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#4 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I doubt it. Just eventual slowdown, which we're already seeing now.

themajormayor

We are? Looks like the opposite to me.

When was the last time we had a major tech revolution, like the phone, or the computer, or the tv, or the airplane, or the Internet? Everything now is just making what we have, better.

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#5 branketra
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I would think it all comes down to the ability to useany giventechnology.

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#6 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I doubt it. Just eventual slowdown, which we're already seeing now.

Pirate700

We are? Looks like the opposite to me.

When was the last time we had a major tech revolution, like the phone, or the computer, or the tv, or the airplane, or the Internet? Everything now is just making what we have, better.

Well the internet was 20 years ago. And everything else was like ~60-150 years ago. So it seems to happen at like 30 year interval. So next revolution should come soon. Doesn't mean it's in a slowdown.
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#7 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] We are? Looks like the opposite to me.themajormayor

When was the last time we had a major tech revolution, like the phone, or the computer, or the tv, or the airplane, or the Internet? Everything now is just making what we have, better.

Well the internet was 20 years ago. And everything else was like ~60-150 years ago. So it seems to happen at like 30 year interval. So next revolution should come soon. Doesn't mean it's in a slowdown.

That's my point. Over the past 20 years, we haven't advanced at nearly the pace we have in decades prior.

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#8 Jackc8
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No, entire new fields of technology will continually be created and there won't be any limit to it. If we live long enough as a species we'll become the equivalent of gods eventually.

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#9 Reptylus
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I believe after the technology to create universes is invented the limit should be pretty close.

Intergalactic travel is something I do expect some day. I just don't expect the original crew to ever see their destination. That'll be their grand grand grandchildren's thing.

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#10 Austindro
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I doubt it. Just eventual slowdown, which we're already seeing now.

themajormayor

We are? Looks like the opposite to me.

This

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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]When was the last time we had a major tech revolution, like the phone, or the computer, or the tv, or the airplane, or the Internet? Everything now is just making what we have, better.

Pirate700

Well the internet was 20 years ago. And everything else was like ~60-150 years ago. So it seems to happen at like 30 year interval. So next revolution should come soon. Doesn't mean it's in a slowdown.

That's my point. Over the past 20 years, we haven't advanced at nearly the pace we have in decades prior.

I seriously hope you're just bad at trolling.

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#12 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] Well the internet was 20 years ago. And everything else was like ~60-150 years ago. So it seems to happen at like 30 year interval. So next revolution should come soon. Doesn't mean it's in a slowdown.Nibroc420

That's my point. Over the past 20 years, we haven't advanced at nearly the pace we have in decades prior.

I seriously hope you're just bad at trolling.

Ok, then answer my previous question. When was the last time we had a major tech revolution and not just improving what we already had/have?

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#13 CajunMadePunk
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There is no end to technology.
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Yes, I think there is a «wall» but that «wall» is still far far far far far... (many fars later) far far far away.

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#15 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]That's my point. Over the past 20 years, we haven't advanced at nearly the pace we have in decades prior.

Pirate700

I seriously hope you're just bad at trolling.

Ok, then answer my previous question. When was the last time we had a major tech revolution and not just improving what we already had/have?

We've ALWAYS been improving upon things... And we're currently in the middle of a major tech revolution.
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#16 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] I seriously hope you're just bad at trolling.

Nibroc420

Ok, then answer my previous question. When was the last time we had a major tech revolution and not just improving what we already had/have?

We've ALWAYS been improving upon things... And we're currently in the middle of a major tech revolution.

Way to completely dodge the question...

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] I seriously hope you're just bad at trolling.

Ok, then answer my previous question. When was the last time we had a major tech revolution and not just improving what we already had/have?

We've ALWAYS been improving upon things... And we're currently in the middle of a major tech revolution.

Thanks for not answering his question.
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#18 Ilovegames1992
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Yes, when we all kill each other.

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#19 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Ok, then answer my previous question. When was the last time we had a major tech revolution and not just improving what we already had/have?

mrmusicman247

We've ALWAYS been improving upon things... And we're currently in the middle of a major tech revolution.

Thanks for not answering his question.

And he called me a troll.

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#20 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Ok, then answer my previous question. When was the last time we had a major tech revolution and not just improving what we already had/have?

mrmusicman247

We've ALWAYS been improving upon things... And we're currently in the middle of a major tech revolution.

Thanks for not answering his question.

His question was stupid. It's the same as someone standing the crowd at a football game during half time and asking "When's the last time we WENT to a Football game?" Answer? You're at ****ing football game.

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#21 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] We've ALWAYS been improving upon things... And we're currently in the middle of a major tech revolution.Nibroc420

Thanks for not answering his question.

His question was stupid. It's the same as someone standing the crowd at a football game during half time and asking "When's the last time we WENT to a Football game?" Answer? You're at ****ing football game.

:lol: Wow...keep avoiding the question dude...

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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] We've ALWAYS been improving upon things... And we're currently in the middle of a major tech revolution.Nibroc420

Thanks for not answering his question.

His question was stupid. It's the same as someone standing the crowd at a football game during half time and asking "When's the last time we WENT to a Football game?" Answer? You're at ****ing football game.

No. No it's not. You might be right we're in the middle of one. But he asked when was the last time there was a major tech revolution. Before the current one we're in >.>
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#23 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"] Thanks for not answering his question. Pirate700

His question was stupid. It's the same as someone standing the crowd at a football game during half time and asking "When's the last time we WENT to a Football game?" Answer? You're at ****ing football game.

:lol: Wow...keep avoiding the question dude...

When's the last time you could consider yourself a human being? [spoiler] We can both ask ****ing stupid and pointless questions [/spoiler]
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#24 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"] Thanks for not answering his question. mrmusicman247

His question was stupid. It's the same as someone standing the crowd at a football game during half time and asking "When's the last time we WENT to a Football game?" Answer? You're at ****ing football game.

No. No it's not. You might be right we're in the middle of one. But he asked when was the last time there was a major tech revolution. Before the current one we're in >.>

I wonder what inside info this genius has to make him so sure we're in the middle of one now.

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Of course but we won't ever get there. That's for our robots to see and do.
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#27 AtlanticRock
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When the machines become self aware and we have spaceships that make the trip to Mars like a trip down the block...

Short Answer:

There is no limit to the human imagination therefore there's no limit to technology.

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#28 KiIIyou
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] His question was stupid. It's the same as someone standing the crowd at a football game during half time and asking "When's the last time we WENT to a Football game?" Answer? You're at ****ing football game.

Pirate700

No. No it's not. You might be right we're in the middle of one. But he asked when was the last time there was a major tech revolution. Before the current one we're in >.>

I wonder what inside info this genius has to make him so sure we're in the middle of one now.

Popular Science Magazine.
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#29 parkurtommo
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No that's impossible, the limit is it's resources.

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#30 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"] No. No it's not. You might be right we're in the middle of one. But he asked when was the last time there was a major tech revolution. Before the current one we're in >.>KiIIyou

I wonder what inside info this genius has to make him so sure we're in the middle of one now.

Popular Science Magazine.

If that was the case, he'd be able to tell us what this magical item is. We're still waiting.

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#31 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"] No. No it's not. You might be right we're in the middle of one. But he asked when was the last time there was a major tech revolution. Before the current one we're in >.>KiIIyou

I wonder what inside info this genius has to make him so sure we're in the middle of one now.

Popular Science Magazine.

I wish, Nah, i just like to keep myself informed on the things going on in the world. Perhaps if Pirate were to do the same, he wouldn't be asking such idiotic questions.
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#32 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="KiIIyou"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]I wonder what inside info this genius has to make him so sure we're in the middle of one now.

Nibroc420

Popular Science Magazine.

I wish, Nah, i just like to keep myself informed on the things going on in the world. Perhaps if Pirate were to do the same, he wouldn't be asking such idiotic questions.

Again, why don't you tell us what this item is, oh genius one...

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#33 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="KiIIyou"]Popular Science Magazine.Pirate700

I wish, Nah, i just like to keep myself informed on the things going on in the world. Perhaps if Pirate were to do the same, he wouldn't be asking such idiotic questions.

Again, why don't you tell us what this item is, oh genius one...

I never claimed to be a genius, just a normal, educated person. You should try it :D
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#34 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] I wish, Nah, i just like to keep myself informed on the things going on in the world. Perhaps if Pirate were to do the same, he wouldn't be asking such idiotic questions.Nibroc420

Again, why don't you tell us what this item is, oh genius one...

I never claimed to be a genius, just a normal, educated person. You should try it :D

So is all you can do is insult others, or are you going to tell us what this item is? If not, then shut the hell up and stop making a fool of yourself.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] I wish, Nah, i just like to keep myself informed on the things going on in the world. Perhaps if Pirate were to do the same, he wouldn't be asking such idiotic questions.Nibroc420

Again, why don't you tell us what this item is, oh genius one...

I never claimed to be a genius, just a normal, educated person. You should try it :D

you throwing poop around is not helping the discussion.
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] I wish, Nah, i just like to keep myself informed on the things going on in the world. Perhaps if Pirate were to do the same, he wouldn't be asking such idiotic questions.Nibroc420

Again, why don't you tell us what this item is, oh genius one...

I never claimed to be a genius, just a normal, educated person. You should try it :D

In other words: you have no idea.

Gotcha.

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#37 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Again, why don't you tell us what this item is, oh genius one...

parkurtommo

I never claimed to be a genius, just a normal, educated person. You should try it :D

you throwing poop around is not helping the discussion.

I'm glad im not throwing poop then. It would make my food taste sort of strange, considering im eating.

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Again, why don't you tell us what this item is, oh genius one...

Pirate700

I never claimed to be a genius, just a normal, educated person. You should try it :D

So is all you can do is insult others, or are you going to tell us what this item is? If not, then shut the hell up and stop making a fool of yourself.

Nuclear fusion will be a big step for mankind. It's coming soon.
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] I never claimed to be a genius, just a normal, educated person. You should try it :DNibroc420

you throwing poop around is not helping the discussion.

I'm glad im not throwing poop then. It would make my food taste sort of strange, considering im eating.

Ouch, I wouldn't recommend eating while posting in OT, you could start throwing up...
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#40 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"]

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]you throwing poop around is not helping the discussion.parkurtommo

I'm glad im not throwing poop then. It would make my food taste sort of strange, considering im eating.

Ouch, I wouldn't recommend eating while posting in OT, you could start throwing up...

Nothing posted on OT could have that effect, although sometimes i do lose my faith in humanity.
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] I'm glad im not throwing poop then. It would make my food taste sort of strange, considering im eating.

Nibroc420

Ouch, I wouldn't recommend eating while posting in OT, you could start throwing up...

Nothing posted on OT could have that effect, although sometimes i do lose my faith in humanity.

I already lost mine reading your posts.

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#42 flipin_jackass
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No. Those who've said something similar in the past tend to get quoted these days for the lulz.
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I read an article where scientists voluntarily stopped working on a mutated bird flu virus because it basically scared the sh-- out of them. They were afraid the airborne version would escape and prompt a Contagion movie like result. They also refuse to post any study material for fear of someone getting their hands on it to use as a weapon.

When I see things like that technology really scares me.

Especially the Large Hadron Collider.

The f---ing scientists want to recreate the events at the Big Bang. WTF ?

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#44 Crestrai
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I doubt it. Just eventual slowdown, which we're already seeing now.

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This. Anyone who hasn't noticed how the academic community hasn't been just rehashing old concepts hasn't been paying too much attention lately. When it comes to utilizing the environment, I think humanity has already taken out the low-hanging fruits. There are some concepts however, such as biotechnology, if it's ever perfected, could lead to a new technological explosion.
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There is probably an end, but it's pretty much at the end of time
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I doubt it. Just eventual slowdown, which we're already seeing now.

Crestrai
This. Anyone who hasn't noticed how the academic community hasn't been just rehashing old concepts hasn't been paying too much attention lately. When it comes to utilizing the environment, I think humanity has already taken out the low-hanging fruits. There are some concepts however, such as biotechnology, if it's ever perfected, could lead to a new technological explosion.

Yes, like augmentations. I'm going to get a penis augmentation. I'll take all the extra fire power I can get.
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Well in terms of probably the most important piece of technology today, the microprocessor (specifically the transistor), yes.

We are approaching the semiconductor fabrication wall. Every so often, the gate length of a MOSFET used inside every chip in every electronic device is reduced. Right now we are at 22 nanometers. Hardware enthusiast will recognize this number. As the gate length gets smaller, the more transistors we can pack on a single die making the chip not only faster but use less power. Oh and cheaper. Moore's Law. The graph below shows the continuous progress the fab industry has made over the last 40 years.

At about 10nm, things get scary. If they work out the scary things, there is a definite wall which is the gate must be of some length, but you can't shrink the SiO2 molecules which compose the gate. Another way to put it: The distance between 2 points of some material could be counted in terms of the number of molecules which compose the material. You can reduce that distance only as far as 1 molecule while still having a measurable length. So once we hit that wall, something drastic needs to happen.

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#48 Crestrai
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So once we hit that wall, something drastic needs to happen.

PS2_ROCKS
What about computations using organic chemistry or DNA computing? Know anything about that?
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Never. Technology is barely starting.
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#50 themajormayor
Member since 2011 • 25729 Posts
[QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]

So once we hit that wall, something drastic needs to happen.

Crestrai
What about computations using organic chemistry or DNA computing? Know anything about that?

no. Quantum computers, that's where it's at