Israel: If the US public got to vote...

If for reasons unknown to man the U.S. public was given a chance to vote on whether or not the United States of America should continue strongly supporting Israel in the manner that it does or whether support should be reduced, how do you think the majority of people would vote? Yes, I know it's impossible to know without some sort of study, but I'm just curious to know what you believe the average citizen's feelings on the US/Israeli relations are.

The US needs those donations more than anyone these days

I wish I could say they would reduce support, but I know that isnt realisitic. the amount of propaganda the American people have been bombarded with by the jewish lobby has completely brainwashed them to the point that they will go over a cliff for Israel.

Some of the more intellectual people, are in my opinion worse, they are so blinded by hatred towards muslim or in favor of democracy so much, they turn a blind eye.

History will show that trumans support for the creation of an Israeli state, purely for politics, against the wishes of his entire cabinet, will be seen as one of the greatest blunder in US history.

Israel doesn't need US support, never needed, and never will...

Israel doesn't need US support, never needed, and never will...

Kandros

Israel doesn't need US support, never needed, and never will...

Kandros

Israel doesn't need US support, never needed, and never will...

Kandros

Israel will one day be the next super powerAnti-Venom

Israel doesn't need US support, never needed, and never will...

[QUOTE="Kandros"]

Israel doesn't need US support, never needed, and never will...

II_Seraphim_II

[QUOTE="Anti-Venom"]Israel will one day be the next super powerquiglythegreat

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Anti-Venom"]Israel will one day be the next super powerAnti-Venom

[QUOTE="Anti-Venom"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] their 'strong' military is pretty dependent on US money and support. they are small geographically and in terms of population. they do not have many national resources. their very existence was only at the allowance the real super powers.quiglythegreat

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Anti-Venom"] so much evidence points to them being the next super powerAnti-Venom

[QUOTE="Anti-Venom"]Israel will one day be the next super powerquiglythegreat

[QUOTE="Anti-Venom"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] are you being sarcastic? I just gave you a list of really big reasons why that's not the casequiglythegreat

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Anti-Venom"]Israel will one day be the next super powergrape_of_wrath

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Anti-Venom"] your reasons dont justify the evidence I have Anti-Venom

[QUOTE="Anti-Venom"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] ok. what evidence do you have?quiglythegreat

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Anti-Venom"] The evidence I have is very sensitive information...some of it took years of research. Im not dumb enough to give it all out on a video game website. I might get in trouble from the UN. sorryAnti-Venom

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] their 'strong' military is pretty dependent on US money and support. they are small geographically and in terms of population. they do not have many national resources. their very existence was only at the allowance the real super powers.quiglythegreat

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"] You mean the 2 to 3 billion dollars,annually? roughly 2%-3% of the israeli budget? the moneteray support really isn't the bulk of the american support(in contrary to the weapon deals and international support). the israeli army really isn't dependent on the money.grape_of_wrath

but so you're saying that the IDF would be totally fine, and never was dependent on foreign powers for its establishment or anything?quiglythegreat

I'm all for ending the alliance.

No country in the Middle East, Israel included, should be trusted by the United States. How quickly people forget that Israeli Defense Force attacked one of our ships during The Six Day War and claimed it was an accident. The ship was flying an American flag and had the clear markings of a US Navy ship. Yet it was still attacked by torpedo boats,helicopters and bombers. To top it all off, they have been caught spying on us several times! Then we have the Palestinians who cheered on the destruction of the twin towers and attacked US embassy personal during peace talks.

We shouldn't be involved at all. Neither side of this conflict can be trusted to deal in good faith.

^ Note the flags.

I'm all for ending the alliance.

No country in the Middle East, Israel included, should be trusted by the United States. How quickly people forget that Israeli Defense Force attacked one of our ships during the Six Day war and claimed it was an accident. The ship was flying an American flag and the clear markings of a US Navy ship. Yet it was still attacked by torpedo boats,helicopters and bombers. To top it all off, they have been caught spying on several times! Then we have the Palestinians who cheered on the destruction of the twin towers and attacked US embassy personal during peace talks.

We shouldn't be involved at all. Neither side of this conflict can be trusted to deal in good faith.

UnknownSniper65

1.1954 Israel False Flag operation, The Israelis used bombs on US Installations on Egypt, To make it look like the Arabs did it. When the operation was later discovered as a False flag, US Broke relations for a Few years and then re-allied.

2.Israel bombs American ships that had American flags and claims that the ship were mistaken for egyption ships.

If most Americans knew about those two incidents..Well it will change things.

I don't get why we are supporting a developed nation with it's own means.

Yep, I was just reading up on how Israel has been stealing foreign passports for use by their assassination agency, the Mossad... I can't see how any country could ally themselves with one that steals their citizens identities to be used by government sanctioned assassins.htekemerald

I don't get why we are supporting a developed nation with it's own means.

Pixel-Pirate

[QUOTE="htekemerald"] Yep, I was just reading up on how Israel has been stealing foreign passports for use by their assassination agency, the Mossad... I can't see how any country could ally themselves with one that steals their citizens identities to be used by government sanctioned assassins.grape_of_wrath

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"][QUOTE="htekemerald"] Yep, I was just reading up on how Israel has been stealing foreign passports for use by their assassination agency, the Mossad... I can't see how any country could ally themselves with one that steals their citizens identities to be used by government sanctioned assassins.htekemerald

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Anti-Venom"]Israel will one day be the next super powergrape_of_wrath

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] their 'strong' military is pretty dependent on US money and support. they are small geographically and in terms of population. they do not have many national resources. their very existence was only at the allowance the real super powers.krazy-blazer

I'm all for ending the alliance.

No country in the Middle East, Israel included, should be trusted by the United States. How quickly people forget that Israeli Defense Force attacked one of our ships during The Six Day War and claimed it was an accident. The ship was flying an American flag and had the clear markings of a US Navy ship. Yet it was still attacked by torpedo boats,helicopters and bombers. To top it all off, they have been caught spying on us several times! Then we have the Palestinians who cheered on the destruction of the twin towers and attacked US embassy personal during peace talks.

We shouldn't be involved at all. Neither side of this conflict can be trusted to deal in good faith.

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^ Note the flags.

UnknownSniper65

No Middle eastern country, Whatsever, at All? Not UAE,Kuwat?Turkey?Pakistan? All these countries are frorm the middle east..Saying No middle eastern country sounds kinda biased since alot of them supported the USA.

[QUOTE="htekemerald"]

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"] You mean...like the CIA and MI6? do we really need to go to the alleged hit records of european countries and the united states in particular,to show how hypocritical it is to point out the mossad(which is the foreign intelligence agency,not an "assassination agency" ) when it mucks things up?grape_of_wrath

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"][QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"] You mean the 2 to 3 billion dollars,annually? roughly 2%-3% of the israeli budget? the moneteray support really isn't the bulk of the american support(in contrary to the weapon deals and international support). the israeli army really isn't dependent on the money.grape_of_wrath

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] So your saying All the money they gained, the Resources they used to make their tanks, Were not donated from an outer source? If you told me Israel bought some, Where would it get that money?krazy-blazer

If Israel depended on Taxes, It wouldn't be able to pay for Military,Health,Education..Etc. Especially with only 7 Million people. May it would be able to, But not with such quality.krazy-blazer

[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] If Israel depended on Taxes, It wouldn't be able to pay for Military,Health,Education..Etc. Especially with only 7 Million people. May it would be able to, But not with such quality.krazy-blazer

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] If Israel depended on Taxes, It wouldn't be able to pay for Military,Health,Education..Etc. Especially with only 7 Million people. May it would be able to, But not with such quality.grape_of_wrath

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"][QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"] :| taxes.like everyone else. the taxation rate in israel reaches 50%. hamstergeddon