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#1 mello7283
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I was born and raised in the tri state area and have always heard rumors about mob controlled areas. It seems like the Albanians and Russians have a lot more of a presence around here. Do the 5 families have any power anymore?

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I don't know about America,but they're still present in Italy.Italian mob ofc.

Most of my family lives there and I hear from them that the mafia is still functioning there.

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#3 YellowOneKinobi
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I could be wrong, but I think that nowadays, at least around here (NY) the mafia isn't what it used to be. Much less organized and nowadays made up of petty thugs/criminals who want to emulate what they see on shows like TheSopranos.

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#4 DeepSigh
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Mafia still operate in America. They're nowhere near as powerful as they were in say, the 30's, but they're still there, apparently.
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#5 mello7283
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I don't know about America,but they're still present in Italy.Italian mob ofc.

Most of my family lives there and I hear from them that the mafia is still functioning there.

Lto_thaG

Yeah it seems like the cops have really cracked down hard here. Someone who goes to my gym is supposedly a 'made guy' in a crew from NYC. But who knows.

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#6 Hatiko
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Well since there is no more prohibition (which is what made them so powerful back in the day) they obviously wouldn't be as powerful as they used to be when alchohol was outlawed.

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#7 mello7283
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Well since there is no more prohibition (which is what made them so powerful back in the day) they obviously wouldn't be as powerful as they used to be when alchohol was outlawed.

Hatiko

It's not a question of how powerful they are now as opposed to how powerful they were in thedays of prohibition!I was just wondering if they really had any power left at all.

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#8 Hatiko
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[QUOTE="Hatiko"]

Well since there is no more prohibition (which is what made them so powerful back in the day) they obviously wouldn't be as powerful as they used to be when alchohol was outlawed.

mello7283

It's not a question of how powerful they are now as opposed to how powerful they were in thedays of prohibition!I was just wondering if they really had any power left at all.

Oh, whoops!

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Yea they're still around in new jersey but more underground. Somebody shot and stabbed a guy in the floral shop across the street from the police station where i live. They said it was mob connected but i doubt it.

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Well, the Italian in me wants me to scold you for even suggesting that there is an Italian mafia :P

But if there were to be such a thing...they still have power and influence, but not nearly as much as they used to. The FBI really started to crack down on the mafia in the latter part of the 20th century

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#11 mello7283
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Well, the Italian in me wants me to scold you for even suggesting that there is an Italian mafia :P

But if there were to be such a thing...they still have power and influence, but not nearly as much as they used to. The FBI really started to crack down on the mafia in the latter part of the 20th century

-Sun_Tzu-

Haha well we share an Italian background. When I went away for college there weren't really any Italians where I went. Because I have an Italian last name people there would always ask me about the mafia. I thought it was funny. But yeah it seems law enforcement has really crippled them.

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I'm not even full Italian and I live in Canada and people ask me if I'm related to any mob bosses. I'd say if anything, gangs control stuff more than mobs or mafias do, seeing as, y'know, they can't really just off people anymore without getting caught...
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I'm not even full Italian and I live in Canada and people ask me if I'm related to any mob bosses.XilePrincess
Well, are you? :P
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[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]I'm not even full Italian and I live in Canada and people ask me if I'm related to any mob bosses.Theokhoth
Well, are you? :P

That depends if you ever irk me or not :) Sleep with one eye open, just in case.
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#16 MrBubbles59
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I don't think they're really around here anymore.

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#17 mello7283
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I'm not even full Italian and I live in Canada and people ask me if I'm related to any mob bosses. I'd say if anything, gangs control stuff more than mobs or mafias do, seeing as, y'know, they can't really just off people anymore without getting caught...XilePrincess

I would say mafias control more than gangs. Gangs like Latin Kings, Bloods, 13th St. seem to be big into selling drugs. Mafia organizations like Russian Mafia and Mexican Mafia seem to distribute those drugs to smaller gangs and also are more into extortion, rackateering, money laundering, gambling, and having 'legitimate' busineeses to cover up criminal enterprises.

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[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]I'm not even full Italian and I live in Canada and people ask me if I'm related to any mob bosses. I'd say if anything, gangs control stuff more than mobs or mafias do, seeing as, y'know, they can't really just off people anymore without getting caught...mello7283

I would say mafias control more than gangs. Gangs like Latin Kings, Bloods, 13th St. seem to be big into selling drugs. Mafia organizations like Russian Mafia and Mexican Mafia seem to distribute those drugs to smaller gangs and also are more into extortion, rackateering, money laundering, gambling, and having 'legitimate' busineeses to cover up criminal enterprises.

Bingo! I used to work for a butcher-shop in Chicago, and it was OBVIOUSLY not worth being open. My boss was an Italian fellow. He met with other Italian fellows that drove relatively expensive cars. He came by the shop twice a day, and never paid much attention to the sales or products. He used to add a few hundred dollars each day to the Z when we tallied the cash register. It wasn't the only little shop he owned. But I gotta hand it to him, his whole-seller had some darn good meat. I'd still be working there if I didn't go to Medical School... good steak is hard the come by.
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#19 DigitalExile
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Well, the Italian in me wants me to scold you for even suggesting that there is an Italian mafia :P

But if there were to be such a thing...they still have power and influence, but not nearly as much as they used to. The FBI really started to crack down on the mafia in the latter part of the 20th century

-Sun_Tzu-

The Mafia has been around since the 1400's, maybe even earlier. Hell, in those times they even had a few Popes and ran countries.

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#20 mello7283
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Bingo! I used to work for a butcher-shop in Chicago, and it was OBVIOUSLY not worth being open. My boss was an Italian fellow. He met with other Italian fellows that drove relatively expensive cars. He came by the shop twice a day, and never paid much attention to the sales or products. He used to add a few hundred dollars each day to the Z when we tallied the cash register. It wasn't the only little shop he owned. But I gotta hand it to him, his whole-seller had some darn good meat. I'd still be working there if I didn't go to Medical School... good steak is hard the come by.

Did he wear athletic jump suits? Maybe it's just me, but I see always see Russian, Albanian, Italian guys in adidas athletic jump suits! It's like a stereotypical gangster thing that is actually true. And Russians seem to love Mercedes-Benz while Italians like their Cadillacs. Maybe it's just an NYC/North Jersey thing.

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#21 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

Well, the Italian in me wants me to scold you for even suggesting that there is an Italian mafia :P

But if there were to be such a thing...they still have power and influence, but not nearly as much as they used to. The FBI really started to crack down on the mafia in the latter part of the 20th century

DigitalExile

The Mafia has been around since the 1400's, maybe even earlier. Hell, in those times they even had a few Popes and ran countries.

I never heard or read anything about the Mafia being around since the 1400's. From my understanding the Mafia emerged in the 19th century.
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#22 mello7283
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[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

Well, the Italian in me wants me to scold you for even suggesting that there is an Italian mafia :P

But if there were to be such a thing...they still have power and influence, but not nearly as much as they used to. The FBI really started to crack down on the mafia in the latter part of the 20th century

-Sun_Tzu-

The Mafia has been around since the 1400's, maybe even earlier. Hell, in those times they even had a few Popes and ran countries.

I never heard or read anything about the Mafia being around since the 1400's. From my understanding the Mafia emerged in the 19th century.

You're right, it started in Sicily in mid 1800's

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="DigitalExile"]The Mafia has been around since the 1400's, maybe even earlier. Hell, in those times they even had a few Popes and ran countries.

mello7283

I never heard or read anything about the Mafia being around since the 1400's. From my understanding the Mafia emerged in the 19th century.

You're right, it started in Sicily in mid 1800's

Well I guess it depends strictly on what "the Mafia" is... but I'd call the Medici's a Mafia family.

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#24 BMD004
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Not sure... but I know the mob was still active in the 80's. Also, my dad has a friend who's dad isn't allowed to go back to Chicago. I have no idea if it is still active, though.

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#25 BMD004
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[QUOTE="mello7283"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] I never heard or read anything about the Mafia being around since the 1400's. From my understanding the Mafia emerged in the 19th century. DigitalExile

You're right, it started in Sicily in mid 1800's

Well I guess it depends strictly on what "the Mafia" is... but I'd call the Medici's a Mafia family.

BS. Oddly enough, I'm related to Catherine de' Medici.
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#26 mello7283
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From what I have read it seems like a ton of guys turned into informants for law enforcement. All the head guys were thrown in prison, especially in the 80's. It doesn't seem like the Italian mafia has been able to recover from this.

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[QUOTE="mello7283"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] I never heard or read anything about the Mafia being around since the 1400's. From my understanding the Mafia emerged in the 19th century. DigitalExile

You're right, it started in Sicily in mid 1800's

Well I guess it depends strictly on what "the Mafia" is... but I'd call the Medici's a Mafia family.

Strictly speaking, "the Mafia" is a criminal organization based in Sicily, that later spread to America via italian immigration.

The Medici family was a very powerful banking and political family based in Florence. The two are completely unrelated.

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Up here in Boston we have organized crime, unfortunately. Though we have been popularized for Irish mafia, there is a large Italian presence in the North End of Boston. Just arrested a guy called the Big Cheese a year ago or so for racketeering... I don't think its as violent as it used to be however...

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#29 mello7283
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Up here in Boston we have organized crime, unfortunately. Though we have been popularized for Irish mafia, there is a large Italian presence in the North End of Boston. Just arrested a guy called the Big Cheese a year ago or so for racketeering... I don't think its as violent as it used to be however...

hanzpumpsYOUup

Yeah I have heard there are a lot of crews up in New England.

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#30 BMD004
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Hey OP... you can read about the Italian Mafia today at:

www.mafiatoday.com

For list of Families, members, and strength, look at this link more specifically:

http://mafiatoday.com/mafia-families-gangs-gangsters/mafia-family-charts-and-leadership-2011/

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#32 mello7283
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Hey OP... you can read about the Italian Mafia today at:

www.mafiatoday.com

For list of Families, members, and strength, look at this link more specifically:

http://mafiatoday.com/mafia-families-gangs-gangsters/mafia-family-charts-and-leadership-2011/

BMD004

Hey thanks for posting that. My last name is Colombo, I had no idea they were a major crime family!

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#33 mello7283
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It sucks such a proud Italian name is stigmatized by some scum bags

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#35 mello7283
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[QUOTE="mello7283"]

It sucks such a proud Italian name is stigmatized by some scum bags

BMD004

Yeah, I guess they are scum bags... but it's still interesting. My great grandpa was a lawyer for the mob in New Orleans. It's interesting to learn about it because it's so close to home. My mom used to always go to Nunzio Provenzano's house with her grandpa (the lawyer). I guess they were close because she knew them as Uncle Nunzi and aunt Josie. Carlos Marcello's house was right down the street. She knew Carlos as well. My dad also dated Marcello's grandaughter, I think, so he's familiar with him, as well.

So I like learning about all of that stuff since it's a part of history, and my parents were very familiar with it.

I agree that it's very interesting to learn about. I have a huge family, I wouldn't be surprised if i was related to some connected people.

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#36 jaqulle999
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There isn't much gang activity in my area of new jersey, but we do have a lot of drugs which are probably coming out of phili.