Once again he goes against the Constitution by not asking for approval of the congressto take military action against Libya. So why are people not caring exactly?
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Once again he goes against the Constitution by not asking for approval of the congressto take military action against Libya. So why are people not caring exactly?
'The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.'- Obama
In his own words
'The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.'- Obama
In his own words
Exactly :| yet he did it.Presidents disregard the Constitution all the time and they never get impeached over it.
*cough* Patriot Act *cough*
1-What your are saying is so laughable I don't even feel like addressing it and 2-Once again? (why am I starting this? political arguments on this forum are like bashing yourself in the head with a rock)Once again he goes against the Constitution by not asking for approval of the congressto take military action against Libya. So why are people not caring exactly?
00-Riddick-00
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]
I loath Obama but this is absurd.
Pirate700
Why do you loath Obama?
That's not what this thread is about...It's actually spelled "loathe." Loath is an adjective.
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]
I loath Obama but this is absurd.
BluRayHiDef
Why do you loath Obama?
Because he's black
or
he took his juurrbb
or
national health rabble rabble rabble
Lol i jks.
Once again he goes against the Constitution by not asking for approval of the congressto take military action against Libya. So why are people not caring exactly?
00-Riddick-00
Are you Republican?
Once again he goes against the Constitution by not asking for approval of the congressto take military action against Libya. So why are people not caring exactly?
1-What your are saying is so laughable I don't even feel like addressing it and 2-Once again? (why am I starting this? political arguments on this forum are like bashing yourself in the head with a rock) How is it laughable? Its completely true..yeah and I'm sure we should have impeached ever president that approved military action since WWII right? From what I hear this is us acting on behave of a UN resolution.OntainThey should have been impeached as well.
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Once again he goes against the Constitution by not asking for approval of the congressto take military action against Libya. So why are people not caring exactly?
Are you Republican?
No, Conservative[QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"]
Once again he goes against the Constitution by not asking for approval of the congressto take military action against Libya. So why are people not caring exactly?
BluRayHiDef
Are you Republican?
Parties are not hugely important in American politics anyway are they?
Out of curiosity, what is the section of the Constitution in question?
GabuEx
I would think it goes against the war powers clause
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Once again he goes against the Constitution by not asking for approval of the congressto take military action against Libya. So why are people not caring exactly?
Ilovegames1992
Are you Republican?
Parties are not hugely important in American politics anyway are they?
:| The amount of party bias in america is flat out stupid.
Well he did for the right reasons. Libya is attacking civilian targets, not military targets. The UN security council, which is headed by the United States warned them to stop. They didnt. So the council took military action like they said they would. Its not only the US who is taking military action against the Libyan aggressions. So please, stop pointing your finger at the US only...
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]
Are you Republican?
dunl12496
Parties are not hugely important in American politics anyway are they?
:| The amount of party bias in america is flat out stupid.
I thought like 60 odd per cent of Americans were independent voters? I'm pretty sure parties are pretty much reduntant in terms of elections and such.
Agreed. I probably have totally different reasons than you, but yes.I loathe Obama but this is absurd.
Pirate700
[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]
[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]
Are you Republican?
Parties are not hugely important in American politics anyway are they?
:| The amount of party bias in america is flat out stupid.
Thats for sure. I wish they were viewed just on the issues and their stances and not what party they are. Even if you do agree with someone alot of times they choose not to go against their party in order to keep the party's support when trying to get reelected.I thought declaring war always comes from Congress first? No? It is not like US is getting invaded and they have to do something right away. And besides, all those Europ countries already attacked Libia, they don't needUS.
magicalclick
This isn't a war.
[QUOTE="GabuEx"]
Out of curiosity, what is the section of the Constitution in question?
Oleg_Huzwog
Article 1, Section 8.
Wouldnt be impeached anyway. Supreme court would interpret the Constitution to save him. If Bush wasnt impeached then Obama shouldnt be. But then Clinto was so now i'm confused.
maybe im missing something but didnt the UN impose the no-fly zone? not americaFUBAR24
You are not missing anything. The COALITION is not just the United States. France, England, Germany, Italy, Belgium just to name a few are all involved in the UN's decision to halt Gadhafi's advances.
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Parties are not hugely important in American politics anyway are they?
AutoPilotOn
:| The amount of party bias in america is flat out stupid.
Thats for sure. I wish they were viewed just on the issues and their stances and not what party they are. Even if you do agree with someone alot of times they choose not to go against their party in order to keep the party's support when trying to get reelected.Eh? I'm studying American politics and i've reached the conclusion that most voters vote on the candidate rather than the party, which is the opposite of the UK where its very partisan in support. Odd. Pretty much the most important thing for a candidate to win is money, not party allegiance i thought.
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]
Out of curiosity, what is the section of the Constitution in question?
Ilovegames1992
Article 1, Section 8.
Wouldnt be impeached anyway. Supreme court would interpret the Constitution to save him. If Bush wasnt impeached then Obama shouldnt be. But then Clinto was so now i'm confused.
But Bush got congressional approval, Obama is doing the same thing Bush did (only not as big) and the only difference is that Bush got approval from congress to go to Iraq and Afghanistan
Eh? I'm studying American politics and i've reached the conclusion that most voters vote on the candidate rather than the party, which is the opposite of the UK where its very partisan in support. Odd. Pretty much the most important thing for a candidate to win is money, not party allegiance i thought.Ilovegames1992you are sadly mistaken......the vast majority of voters don't know 2 cents about the candidates......most go in to the ballot box and look for D or R......
[QUOTE="FUBAR24"]maybe im missing something but didnt the UN impose the no-fly zone? not americaMarineXXII
You are not missing anything. The COALITION is not just the United States. France, England, Germany, Italy, Belgium just to name a few are all involved in the UN's decision to halt Gadhafi's advances.
so then why is everyone complaining, we arent going to war we are helping enforce no-fly zones, and they have already said there will be no american ground troops in libya so i dont see why everyone has their panties in a twist[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]
[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]
Article 1, Section 8.
superfive9
Wouldnt be impeached anyway. Supreme court would interpret the Constitution to save him. If Bush wasnt impeached then Obama shouldnt be. But then Clinto was so now i'm confused.
But Bush got congressional approval, Obama is doing the same thing Bush did (only not as big) and the only difference is that Bush got approval from congress to go to Iraq and Afghanistan
:lol: No, Obama is in no way doing what Bush did...[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]Eh? I'm studying American politics and i've reached the conclusion that most voters vote on the candidate rather than the party, which is the opposite of the UK where its very partisan in support. Odd. Pretty much the most important thing for a candidate to win is money, not party allegiance i thought.Omni-Slashyou are sadly mistaken......the vast majority of voters don't know 2 cents about the candidates......most go in to the ballot box and look for D or R......
Oh well that sucks then. Pretty much the same as over here. You either vote Tory or Labour depending on where you live. Sad really. Well thats a year of studying wasted thanks man. :D
anytime.....oh yeah...and the cake is a lie.....jsut thought you'd like to know... :POh well that sucks then. Pretty much the same as over here. You either vote Tory or Labour depending on where you live. Sad really. Well thats a year of studying wasted thanks man. :D
Ilovegames1992
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Wouldnt be impeached anyway. Supreme court would interpret the Constitution to save him. If Bush wasnt impeached then Obama shouldnt be. But then Clinto was so now i'm confused.
SaintLeonidas
But Bush got congressional approval, Obama is doing the same thing Bush did (only not as big) and the only difference is that Bush got approval from congress to go to Iraq and Afghanistan
:lol: No, Obama is in no way doing what Bush did... He's not sending soldiers there, but he's taking military action against another country. By definition, Bush took military action against another country, but congress approved itActually, a sitting President does have authorization to use military power but after 30 days he must go before Congress to prolong it and ask for more money. Hence why so many conflicts in the past decades haven't lasted very long (with the exception of Iraq and Afghanistan).Once again he goes against the Constitution by not asking for approval of the congressto take military action against Libya. So why are people not caring exactly?
00-Riddick-00
:lol: No, Obama is in no way doing what Bush did... He's not sending soldiers there, but he's taking military action against another country. By definition, Bush took military action against another country, but congress approved it[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="superfive9"]
But Bush got congressional approval, Obama is doing the same thing Bush did (only not as big) and the only difference is that Bush got approval from congress to go to Iraq and Afghanistan
superfive9
Lol? Bush launched a full out invasion....
Since WWII, congress has essentially deferred to the white house when it comes to engaging in war. I was watching Mitch McConnell (who is not the biggest Obama fan) talk about Libya a few weeks ago, and he was asked about what he thought the U.S. should do, and he basically said that he had no issue with trusting Obama to make the right call on the situation.
[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]everyone.....Who's to say the nation wasn't in imminent danger?
Omni-Slash
I'm just making a point of why it would be difficult to even start talk of impeaching. It wouldn't be hard to string enough evidence together to suggest that something had to be done. Anyway, this entire topic is absurd.
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