Instead of donating something or doing something usefull i'l just pray for Japan when i feel like it .
Because my god , one of 1000+ gods (i rejected all the others) will surely help fix all Japan's problems .
How smart am i ?
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Instead of donating something or doing something usefull i'l just pray for Japan when i feel like it .
Because my god , one of 1000+ gods (i rejected all the others) will surely help fix all Japan's problems .
How smart am i ?
/OT since Japan-disasterInstead of donating something or doing something usefull i'l just pray for Japan when i feel like it .
Because my god , one of 1000+ gods (i rejected all the others) will surely help fix all Japan's problems .
How smart am i ?
TaoJeetKuneDo
Instead of donating something or doing something usefull i'l just pray for Japan when i feel like it .
Because my god , one of 1000+ gods (i rejected all the others) will surely help fix all Japan's problems .
How smart am i ?
TaoJeetKuneDo
You know what I find funny? The TC constantly bashes people that are religious, yet never acknowledges that pretty much wherever there is a crisis, religious organizations of many different denominations are there to help both with supplies and with bodies on the ground.
I wonder how much of his time and money the TC donates to causes. Or does he feel that his sarcasm somehow benefits people in need?
[QUOTE="TaoJeetKuneDo"]
Instead of donating something or doing something usefull i'l just pray for Japan when i feel like it .
Because my god , one of 1000+ gods (i rejected all the others) will surely help fix all Japan's problems .
How smart am i ?
Matthew-first
I came in here with my verbal shotgun loaded and racked. Then I read opening post. Then I laughed.
But if you really want to help, donate. Prayer isn't going to rebuild after this disaster, we are. By we I mean humans, fantastic, resourceful, enduring, never say die humans.
YOU know what's funny ? Everything religion has done and you want all atheists to be respectful ! That's really funny ! Good for them , good for those religious people who help ! But there are over 9000 more religious people who just pray and expect to fix everything in a blink of a eye . That's funny , like a 5 year old believes Santa will bring presents . You want respect for that ? You will get none from me .You know what I find funny? The TC constantly bashes people that are religious, yet never acknowledges that pretty much wherever there is a crisis, religious organizations of many different denominations are there to help both with supplies and with bodies on the ground.
I wonder how much of his time and money the TC donates to causes. Or does he feel that his sarcasm somehow benefits people in need?
YellowOneKinobi
Yeah. And also instead of going to Japan to help or give more donations im going to go to Gamespot OT forum and B**** about people who are mourning and care about the people in Japan.
Someone has got to respond all those "God bless Japan" messages . It's annoying and stupid , don't expect thousands of prayers and no one to respond them aka shut up already .Yeah. And also instead of going to Japan to help or give more donations im going to go to Gamespot OT forum and B**** about people who are mourning and care about the people in Japan.
Jolt_counter119
[QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]Someone has got to respond all those "God bless Japan" messages . It's annoying and stupid , don't expect thousands of prayers and no one to respond them aka shut up already .Yeah. And also instead of going to Japan to help or give more donations im going to go to Gamespot OT forum and B**** about people who are mourning and care about the people in Japan.
TaoJeetKuneDo
Because obviously you moaning about it is helping a whole lot more.
Someone has got to respond all those "God bless Japan" messages . It's annoying and stupid , don't expect thousands of prayers and no one to respond them aka shut up already .[QUOTE="TaoJeetKuneDo"][QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]
Yeah. And also instead of going to Japan to help or give more donations im going to go to Gamespot OT forum and B**** about people who are mourning and care about the people in Japan.
Stunneronureyez
Because obviously you moaning about it is helping a whole lot more.
Oh sorry , what was that ? I'l just pray for you , that will surely help more that moaning .[QUOTE="Stunneronureyez"][QUOTE="TaoJeetKuneDo"] Someone has got to respond all those "God bless Japan" messages . It's annoying and stupid , don't expect thousands of prayers and no one to respond them aka shut up already .TaoJeetKuneDo
Because obviously you moaning about it is helping a whole lot more.
Oh sorry , what was that ? I'l just pray for you , that will surely help more that moaning . How do you know prayer doesn't help?Oh sorry , what was that ? I'l just pray for you , that will surely help more that moaning .TaoJeetKuneDoAt least by praying, whether you believe in God or not, they have good intentions not to mention all the donations and help that religious organisations contribute. What is moaning doing to help at all? have you donated *anything* at all aid the relief effort?
You know what I find funny? The TC constantly bashes people that are religious, yet never acknowledges that pretty much wherever there is a crisis, religious organizations of many different denominations are there to help both with supplies and with bodies on the ground. I wonder how much of his time and money the TC donates to causes. Or does he feel that his sarcasm somehow benefits people in need? YellowOneKinobiExactly this, ignorance has done more harm to the world than these religious people ever will.
Oh sorry , what was that ? I'l just pray for you , that will surely help more that moaning . How do you know prayer doesn't help?[QUOTE="TaoJeetKuneDo"][QUOTE="Stunneronureyez"]
Because obviously you moaning about it is helping a whole lot more.
racer8dan
How do you know prayer doesn't help?[QUOTE="racer8dan"]
[QUOTE="TaoJeetKuneDo"] Oh sorry , what was that ? I'l just pray for you , that will surely help more that moaning .Matthew-first
There have been some studies that indicate that prayer can help in healing. I'm not saying that God specifically answers the prayers of the sick, but it seems the act of having faith and praying can help in the healing process. Whether or not it is simply mind-over-matter, I can't say for sure. However, should I become gravely ill one day, I'll be talking to God and praying that He hears me.
Here is something from WebMD:
The Impact of Religion on Health
But prayer is more than just repetition and physiological responses, says Harold Koenig, MD, associate professor of medicine and psychiatry at Duke and a colleague of Krucoff's.
Traditional religious beliefs have a variety of effects on personal health, says Koenig, senior author of the Handbook of Religion and Health, a new release that documents nearly 1,200 studies done on the effects of prayer on health.
These studies show that religious people tend to live healthier lives. "They're less likely to smoke, to drink, to drink and drive," he says. In fact, people who pray tend to get sick less often, as separate studies conducted at Duke, Dartmouth, and Yale universities show. Some statistics from these studies:
Hospitalized people who never attended church have an average stay of three times longer than people who attended regularly.
Heart patients were 14 times more likely to die following surgery if they did not participate in a religion.
Elderly people who never or rarely attended church had a stroke rate double that of people who attended regularly.
In Israel, religious people had a 40% lower death rate from cardiovascular disease and cancer.
Link: http://www.webmd.com/balance/features/can-prayer-heal?page=2
How do you know prayer doesn't help?[QUOTE="racer8dan"]
[QUOTE="TaoJeetKuneDo"] Oh sorry , what was that ? I'l just pray for you , that will surely help more that moaning .Matthew-first
[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]YOU know what's funny ? Everything religion has done and you want all atheists to be respectful ! That's really funny ! Good for them , good for those religious people who help ! But there are over 9000 more religious people who just pray and expect to fix everything in a blink of a eye . That's funny , like a 5 year old believes Santa will bring presents . You want respect for that ? You will get none from me .You talk as if everyone is in a position to help:roll:You know what I find funny? The TC constantly bashes people that are religious, yet never acknowledges that pretty much wherever there is a crisis, religious organizations of many different denominations are there to help both with supplies and with bodies on the ground.
I wonder how much of his time and money the TC donates to causes. Or does he feel that his sarcasm somehow benefits people in need?
TaoJeetKuneDo
There have been some studies that indicate that prayer can help in healing. I'm not saying that God specifically answers the prayers of the sick, but it seems the act of having faith and praying can help in the healing process. Whether or not it is simply mind-over-matter, I can't say for sure. However, should I become gravely ill one day, I'll be talking to God and praying that He hears me.Here is something from WebMD:
The Impact of Religion on Health
But prayer is more than just repetition and physiological responses, says Harold Koenig, MD, associate professor of medicine and psychiatry at Duke and a colleague of Krucoff's.
Traditional religious beliefs have a variety of effects on personal health, says Koenig, senior author of the Handbook of Religion and Health, a new release that documents nearly 1,200 studies done on the effects of prayer on health.
These studies show that religious people tend to live healthier lives. "They're less likely to smoke, to drink, to drink and drive," he says. In fact, people who pray tend to get sick less often, as separate studies conducted at Duke, Dartmouth, and Yale universities show. Some statistics from these studies:
Hospitalized people who never attended church have an average stay of three times longer than people who attended regularly.
Heart patients were 14 times more likely to die following surgery if they did not participate in a religion.
Elderly people who never or rarely attended church had a stroke rate double that of people who attended regularly.
In Israel, religious people had a 40% lower death rate from cardiovascular disease and cancer.
Link: http://www.webmd.com/balance/features/can-prayer-heal?page=2
YellowOneKinobi
One teeny tiny little glaring problem with ALL of that....if fails to consider that religion my be incidental to the study! You mean people who don't drink or smoke are more likely to live healthier lives? You don't say, I never would of guessed!
I would bet a years income that if you did a study on non-religious people who didn't smoke, drink, and any of the other factors that went into the study, it would show they are just as healthy as any of the religious people mentioned above.
[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]
keech
One teeny tiny little glaring problem with ALL of that....if fails to consider that religion my be incidental to the study! You mean people who don't drink or smoke are more likely to live healthier lives? You don't say, I never would of guessed!
I would bet a years income that if you did a study on non-religious people who didn't smoke, drink, and any of the other factors that went into the study, it would show they are just as healthy as any of the religious people mentioned above.
You may very well be right about that. But I will say, at least the way I read that, is that there is, in fact, a correlation "on average" between lifestyles of religious people compared to their non-religious counterparts. Beyond that, I don't have enough information to know, nor reason to think, that the non-religious people involved in the study necessarily had unhealthy lifestyles across the board. Again, not having all of the information about the 3 seperate studues by 3 seperate universities handy, all we can do is speculate.
EDIT: I also have to say that I don't know too much about WebMD. Meaning, I'm not sure if the site tends to have any "slants," be it liberal, conservative, biased towards or against religion, etc. I typically only use WebMD to look up a symptom, then drive myself crazy by saying over and over, "Oh No! I HAVE THAT!" as I read article after article.
What if religious people donate to Japan AND pray to god for the Japanese people?conistantI think this is the most likely and most common scenario. At least, that is the case for myself, the small circle of friends I have and what I see happening at my Church.
I think they forget the fact that Japan isn't very big in the religious sense, by Christian standards, they would all be heretics and should burn in hell, so even if there were such a thing as "God" I don't think he would go around helping heretics, now would he?luisen123Your ignorance of the Christian faith astounds me.
I think they forget the fact that Japan isn't very big in the religious sense, by Christian standards, they would all be heretics and should burn in hell, so even if there were such a thing as "God" I don't think he would go around helping heretics, now would he?luisen123Just because someone is an unbeliever does not mean the Christian should not help him... Also, technically speaking the heretic would be the person who claims to be a Christian but holds to blatantly incorrect doctrine.
I think they forget the fact that Japan isn't very big in the religious sense, by Christian standards, they would all be heretics and should burn in hell, so even if there were such a thing as "God" I don't think he would go around helping heretics, now would he?luisen123I disagree, I was in Japan and I believe is one of the most religious places I've been the difference is that their religion is tightly intertwined with their culture so in most cases it goes unnoticed but a lot of the discipline and their moral stance comes from religion of course Buddhist and Shintoist mainly. The temples in Japan feel alive you can actually feel that people take them seriously and respects them and still uses them on a daily basis I didn't feel the same in Europe for example. The Cathedrals and Churches in Europe felt like monuments for tourism, they felt kind of dead and souless not so the temples in Japan.
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