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#1 LeGoofyGoober
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they go to school 11 months out of the year, no christmas break, 6 days a week of school.

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#2 Theokhoth
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So?

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#3 SaintLeonidas
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they go to school 11 months out of the year, no christmas break, 6 days a week of school.

LeGoofyGoober
wait...so how does that make them smarter?
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#4 Wilfred_Owen
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But they still don't have a post count larger than mine. Take that Japan!
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#5 LeGoofyGoober
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[QUOTE="LeGoofyGoober"]

they go to school 11 months out of the year, no christmas break, 6 days a week of school.

SaintLeonidas

wait...so how does that make them smarter?



pay attention. they're in school far longer then american students. someone who practices a martial art 7 days a week will be better at it then someone who practices it only 5.

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#6 Wasdie  Moderator
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Those guys sound like machines more than anything.

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#7 Never3ndingLife
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oh well... we are still eliter, and invented the Corvette lol
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#8 firedonut
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Students in multiple other countries are smarter than American students. Our standards aren't terribly high here, and have been declining over the past few decades in my opinion.

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#9 escapeoftheape
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well, i remember reading that americans are at the bottom of the list out of the developed countries when it comes to being smart. I wouldn't be surprised if statistics showed that japanese people were actually smarter than americans in general. that said, i dont think its all that positive to put as much pressure on kids as they do in Japan today.
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#10 SaintLeonidas
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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="LeGoofyGoober"]

they go to school 11 months out of the year, no christmas break, 6 days a week of school.

LeGoofyGoober

wait...so how does that make them smarter?



pay attention. they're in school far longer then american students. someone who practices a martial art 7 days a week will be better at it then someone who practices it only 5.

...I know a kid who was in highschool for 6 years...so is he smarter then me? You could go to school 24/7 for 365 days and still be the dumbest kid on earth...Im not saying they are or are not smarter, but just because they go to school longer doesnt mean anything.

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#11 ShuichiChamp24
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Students in multiple other countries are smarter than American students. Our standards aren't terribly high here, and have been declining over the past few decades in my opinion.

firedonut

Won't argue with this. It's kinda sad when you think about it too.

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#12 LeGoofyGoober
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[QUOTE="LeGoofyGoober"]

[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]wait...so how does that make them smarter?SaintLeonidas



pay attention. they're in school far longer then american students. someone who practices a martial art 7 days a week will be better at it then someone who practices it only 5.

...I know a kid who was in highschool for 6 years...so is he smarter then me? You could go to school 24/7 for 365 days and still be the dumbest kid on earth...Im not saying they are or are not smarter, but just because they go to school longer doesnt mean anything.



common sense will tell you the longer you do something, the better you get at it. since, on average, a japanese student is in school far longer then an american student, they are smarter because they learn more. may not apply to every japanese student, but the smartest japanese student is smarter then the smartest american student. and i'm american.

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hence the NEET problem.

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#14 SaintLeonidas
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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"]

[QUOTE="LeGoofyGoober"]

pay attention. they're in school far longer then american students. someone who practices a martial art 7 days a week will be better at it then someone who practices it only 5.

LeGoofyGoober

...I know a kid who was in highschool for 6 years...so is he smarter then me? You could go to school 24/7 for 365 days and still be the dumbest kid on earth...Im not saying they are or are not smarter, but just because they go to school longer doesnt mean anything.



common sense will tell you the longer you do something, the better you get at it. since, on average, a japanese student is in school far longer then an american student, they are smarter because they learn more. may not apply to every japanese student, but the smartest japanese student is smarter then the smartest american student. and i'm american.

Not always when it comes to learning, people are different and may take them longer then others to fully learn and understand things. Someone could go to school for 3 months and learn calculus and it could take someone a whole year. Like I said I'm not saying they aren't smarter because based on other things Ive read many are, but simply saying they are just because they go to school longer doesn't mean anything.

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#15 Dante2710
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students go to school for around 10 months in US, this thread just screams flame-bait
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#16 THE_BRUTALIZER
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they go to school 11 months out of the year, no christmas break, 6 days a week of school.

LeGoofyGoober
Its just a known fact now, especially with all the stupid ass drop outs, failures, and gangs that we have in school. Not to mention the lack of care of many teachers, especially public schools,......So many people are stupid.
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#17 Kamekazi_69
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You can't immediately assume that they are smarter. Though Japanese culture can become obssessive with perfection, no wonder suicide rates are very high in Japan. Its their culture, We have our own. I personally couldn't tolerate that. I would feel like domestic livestock to work. **** that, im a rebel

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#18 xTheExploited
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I heard South Koren students do even more school.
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#19 Patatopan
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I don't believe japanease school kids going to school more often than americans is what makes them smarter. Heck, here in America, even after getting straight A's, I was still having trouble understanding things in my class.

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they go to school 11 months out of the year, no christmas break, 6 days a week of school.

LeGoofyGoober
LOL, they are too dumb to take the summer off
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#21 AirGuitarist87
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they go to school 11 months out of the year, no christmas break, 6 days a week of school.

LeGoofyGoober
They don't celebrate Christmas so that's a given, but they have other holidays such as Golden Week and the Emperor's Birthday etc. And they're technically at school 5-5.5 days a week, depending on the school. Some school have Wednesday off but all have half days on Saturday. Same system they have in France.
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#22 MetroidPrimePwn
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America has bacon sandwiches that use fried chicken instead of bread.

I think America wins.

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#23 Birdy09
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Those guys sound like machines more than anything.

Wasdie
And yet UK and US work more hours than pretty much most countries.
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#24 phillo99
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So? This has been known for years.

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#25 DarknessLion
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Yes they are pretty smart. I would like to experiance there school year here on the states.
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#26 tycoonmike
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They also have a far higher suicide rate than do American students. Does that make us more lively?

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#27 Bloodseeker23
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But Americans got longer and bigger......
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#28 tycoonmike
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America has bacon sandwiches that use fried chicken instead of bread.

MetroidPrimePwn

I think my cholesterol just shot through the roof by looking at it...

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#29 BanjoMumbo
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Why thank you, I just moved to Japan. But, no I didn't go there when I was still going to school because I'm 29 now.

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#30 quijeros
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Isn't this a given?

Oh, and that sandwich... Jeebus...

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#31 _en1gma_
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The term "smarter" is a loose term. Stop trolling.
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Yeah but who invents all the weird fetishes >.>

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#33 phillo99
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The term "smarter" is a loose term. Stop trolling._en1gma_

Japanese students score higher than American students on international tests, so no, it's not trolling.

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[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]The term "smarter" is a loose term. Stop trolling.phillo99

Japanese students score higher than American students on international tests, so no, it's not trolling.

You can't equate test scores to intelligence.. Ever heard of Richard Feynman?
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they go to school 11 months out of the year, no christmas break, 6 days a week of school.

LeGoofyGoober
What you're describing is a better work ethic.. which has nothing to do with how smart somebody is. Any human can train themselves to score high on tests. As long as they aren't mentally challenged. I went to college with a Japanese roommate.. he studied about 6-8 hours a day I studied about 30 minutes a week.. and I still scored the same as him on everything.
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#36 phillo99
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[QUOTE="phillo99"]

[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]The term "smarter" is a loose term. Stop trolling._en1gma_

Japanese students score higher than American students on international tests, so no, it's not trolling.

You can't equate test scores to intelligence.. Ever heard of Richard Feynman?

A few rainmen don't beat an entire country's score.

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Theyre also not as creative or as social.

My sister taught Japanese students for a few years, and it was frustrating. They would be doing something supposedly creative and yet when she said "OK, go ahead and see what you can do" they would look at her for instructions. Then she would demonstrate an example, and the students would copy it and try to produce as many copies of what she did as possible.

Also, just being to Japan and being around Japanese people, they seem like sheep, more so than the average American at least. They can execute things flawlessly, and I am sure they are extremely intelligent and certain aspects of their educational system are better than the US equivlent, but I dont think theye smarter.

Different is a better word for it.

And, of course, my generalization of Japanese students being sheep is as bad as your generalization was.

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#38 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="LeGoofyGoober"]

they go to school 11 months out of the year, no christmas break, 6 days a week of school.

SaintLeonidas

wait...so how does that make them smarter?

it doesnt. more knowledgeable, perhaps, but not smarter.

It also explains Japan's high suicide rate...I'd kill myself too if I had to go to school for over280 or sodays a year.

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#39 _en1gma_
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[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="phillo99"]

Japanese students score higher than American students on international tests, so no, it's not trolling.

phillo99

You can't equate test scores to intelligence.. Ever heard of Richard Feynman?

A few rainmen don't beat an entire country's score.

LMAO he is no rainman. He is a physicist. He is considered the latest genius but he does not even have a genius level IQ. You keep bringing up scores. Scores has nothing to do with overall intelligence.

I should say he was.. Apologies

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ugghhh....I wouldn't want to go to school that much.

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God this thread is awful :/
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#42 pvtdonut54
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They killed all of the smart ones with their DeathNote.

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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="LeGoofyGoober"]

they go to school 11 months out of the year, no christmas break, 6 days a week of school.

LeGoofyGoober

wait...so how does that make them smarter?



pay attention. they're in school far longer then american students. someone who practices a martial art 7 days a week will be better at it then someone who practices it only 5.

depends who tries harder.

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#44 -Chimera-
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God this thread is awful :/Funky_Llama
But is it the worst thread on the internet?
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#45 Z0MBIES
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Well, that doesn't make them smarter, that might mean they know more, but not smarter.
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#46 AirGuitarist87
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My sister taught Japanese students for a few years, and it was frustrating. They would be doing something supposedly creative and yet when she said "OK, go ahead and see what you can do" they would look at her for instructions. Then she would demonstrate an example, and the students would copy it and try to produce as many copies of what she did as possible.mrbojangles25
Yeah I saw an NHK segment where this interpretive dancer went into a school to teach the kids "the art" and they couldn't do anything. It's not exactly they don't have creative drive, we all have that in one aspect or another, but they've learnt to associate school with standardised tests where everything is either a right or wrong answer.
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]God this thread is awful :/-Chimera-
But is it the worst thread on the internet?

Well, obviously. But then someone will make an even worse one tomorrow.
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[QUOTE="SaintLeonidas"][QUOTE="LeGoofyGoober"]

they go to school 11 months out of the year, no christmas break, 6 days a week of school.

LeGoofyGoober

wait...so how does that make them smarter?



pay attention. they're in school far longer then american students. someone who practices a martial art 7 days a week will be better at it then someone who practices it only 5.

Ha! I teach in Japan, and let me tell you, they don't learn crap over here. Kids graduate without even attending school. I went to graduation in March and was shocked to see 2 kids I had never seen before in the ceremony. They receive no homework, receive absolutely no discipline, and never get held back due to grades or behavioral problems. Just because they go to school more than American students doesn't mean they are actually learning more.

And yeah, the students get a Christmas break. It's the teachers who don't. The kids get about 2 weeks off where I teach.

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[QUOTE="-Chimera-"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]God this thread is awful :/Funky_Llama
But is it the worst thread on the internet?

Well, obviously. But then someone will make an even worse one tomorrow.

So basically every awful thread is the worst thread, because they're progressively getting worse every time.
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#50 jetpower3
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Students in multiple other countries are smarter than American students. Our standards aren't terribly high here, and have been declining over the past few decades in my opinion.

firedonut

It seems that not many people remember that the U.S. once had the best educated work force/population in the world. Of course that is no longer the case, but then again, the U.S. isn't as nearly as potent as it used to be.