Japan's new flat top "destroyer" that IS NOT an aircraft carrier.

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#1 Wasdie  Moderator
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Linkage.

Apparently this is not an aircraft carrier and cannot be used to launch aircraft. 

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Sure Japan... sure...

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#2 Pirate700
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And we should care, why?
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#3 Wasdie  Moderator
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And we should care, why? Pirate700

Oh I don't know. I figured I had some off-topic article I would like to share with people so I would post it in our off topic section. 

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#4 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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So which country are they preparing for? Any guesses? :roll:

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#5 horgen  Moderator
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If it was wider, we could play football there.
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#6 Toxic-Seahorse
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And we should care, why? Pirate700
Because our treaty states that they are not allowed to make aircraft carriers. This is clearly them trying to circumvent that.
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#7 Wilfred_Owen
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And we should care, why? Pirate700
Giant Robots.
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#8 horgen  Moderator
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So which country are they preparing for? Any guesses? :roll:

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I believe Japan only is allowed to have military for defensive reasons... Some restrictions put in place, can't remember why
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#9 osirisx3
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maybe they use it for attack choppers?

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#10 Wasdie  Moderator
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maybe they use it for attack choppers?

osirisx3

That's a different design and Japan already has those. This is clearly an aircraft carrier.

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#11 theone86
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

So which country are they preparing for? Any guesses? :roll:

horgen123

I believe Japan only is allowed to have military for defensive reasons... Some restrictions put in place, can't remember why

Their leader just gained control of their Parliament and one part of his platform is to push back against these restrictions.

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More room for whale carcasses
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#13 worlock77
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What I don't get is why it has American style banners all over it.

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#14 ionusX
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its probably a flat top to be stylish and reminiscent of the ww2 pocket aircraft carriors like the soryu and hiriu. those who dont know either of those names probably remember the US naval battle at the solomon islands. those were actualy aircraft carriers those were destoryers that they had refitted with a runway strip. its probably also ment to confuse the enemy as up in the air it perhaps is ment to resemble one. meanwhile their real carrier is right next to it or w/e

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#15 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

So which country are they preparing for? Any guesses? :roll:

horgen123
I believe Japan only is allowed to have military for defensive reasons... Some restrictions put in place, can't remember why

World War 2 would be why.
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]And we should care, why? Toxic-Seahorse
Because our treaty states that they are not allowed to make aircraft carriers. This is clearly them trying to circumvent that.

Isn't that just because they were such jerks during WWII? Honestly I don't see the point in imposing such restrictions on them now. That was like, 70 years ago. Having said that, the rules are the rules, I guess. If they're not supposed to make aircraft carriers, then they're not supposed to make aircraft carriers.
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#18 deactivated-598fc45371265
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It's just the sucessor to the Hyuga-class ships. Not really a big deal.

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[QUOTE="osirisx3"]

maybe they use it for attack choppers?

Wasdie

That's a different design and Japan already has those. This is clearly an aircraft carrier.

i'm no expert on military vessels but i think it looks exactly like South Korea's helicopter carrier.

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#20 OrkHammer007
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What I don't get is why it has American style banners all over it.

worlock77

Those are semaphore banners, and it's an international standard. If it was a closer shot, you could likely read the name of the ship after you deciphered them.

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#21 OrkHammer007
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Wasdie

The starboard aft corner has an aircraft elevator. This ship is definitely designed to launch some form of aircraft, even if the weather deck doesn't have a nonskid airstrip.

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#22 Baranga
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The Izumo does not have catapults for launching fighters, nor does it have a "ski-jump" ramp on its flight deck for fixed-wing aircraft launches.

Well then it's not an aircraft carrier.

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#23 deactivated-598fc45371265
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

 

OrkHammer007

The starboard aft corner has an aircraft elevator. This ship is definitely designed to launch some form of aircraft, even if the weather deck doesn't have a nonskid airstrip.

it's a Izumo-class helicopter destroyer. It's no big secret jeez.

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#24 awptical
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That thing is far too small to carry fixed wing aircraft, especially for take off. Even so, I wish Japan WOULD build some aircraft carriers for personal defense. They will need it with China knocking on their doorstep.

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=o it's so big!
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#27 Legendaryscmt
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They want us to believe that the destroyer isn't a carrier to mask the fact it's a robot.

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#28 OrkHammer007
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The Izumo does not have catapults for launching fighters, nor does it have a "ski-jump" ramp on its flight deck for fixed-wing aircraft launches.

Well then it's not an aircraft carrier.

Baranga

The ship I was stationed on, the USS Nassau, had neither catatpult nor "ski jump" ramp, yet it was still capable of launching Harrier jets.

it's a Izumo-class helicopter destroyer. It's no big secret jeez.Storm_Marine
It's too big for a destroyer. "Cruiser" is kind of pushing it, too. If they just said "helicopter carrier" and didn't try to be cute... :roll:

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So which country are they preparing for? Any guesses? :roll:

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#30 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

What I don't get is why it has American style banners all over it.

OrkHammer007

Those are semaphore banners, and it's an international standard. If it was a closer shot, you could likely read the name of the ship after you deciphered them.

I'm talking about the red, white and blue semi-circles around the railing.

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#31 coolbeans90
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My sources have confirmed that they plan to challenge U.S. naval superiority with a boat that seems fit to launch helos.

but srsly

are they allowed to launch helicopters?

if so, this isn't really much to be made news of

i would prob want real aircraft carriers if i lived in their regional neighborhood, though

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#32 coolbeans90
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"Though technically a destroyer, some experts believe the new Japanese ship could potentially be used in the future to launch fighter jets or other aircraft that have the ability to take off vertically."

Yeah, I kinda don't think they have planes in mind for this.

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#33 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

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OrkHammer007

The starboard aft corner has an aircraft elevator. This ship is definitely designed to launch some form of aircraft, even if the weather deck doesn't have a nonskid airstrip.

possibly, though you could easily argue you could store helcopters with folding rotors in there for maintainance and weather protection

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My sources have confirmed that they plan to challenge U.S. naval superiority with a boat that seems fit to launch helos.

but srsly

are they allowed to launch helicopters?

 

coolbeans90

they've had 2 helicopter carriers for a while now. this is just newer and bigger.

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#36 Blue-Sky
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Japan should break the treaty,

 

Whis is America going to do? Boycott them? :lol: :lol: 

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#37 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

My sources have confirmed that they plan to challenge U.S. naval superiority with a boat that seems fit to launch helos.

but srsly

are they allowed to launch helicopters?

 

Storm_Marine

they've had 2 helicopter carriers for a while now. this is just newer and bigger.

so, this isn't really news then.

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#38 GummiRaccoon
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I think Japan should be able to rearm.

 

We're essentially paying to protect them.

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#39 EatShanna
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Why do I get the feeling that at the press of a button that "not aircraft carrier" transforms into a giant robot that shoots katanas and mini-nukes. 

I don't blame them, Godzilla returns next summer. :P

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#40 jesuschristmonk
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Clearly says in the article that it's made to carry helicopters, and transport personnel and supplies incase of natural disasters.
It may not launch aircraft, but aircraft sure as hell can be put on it. 

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If i was Japan i'd just break the treaty, I mean what will Obama really do about it.
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#43 AdamPA1006
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If i was Japan i'd just break the treaty, I mean what will Obama really do about it.FrostyPhantasm
THey should, thats stupid they arent allowed to build them
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[QUOTE="FrostyPhantasm"]If i was Japan i'd just break the treaty, I mean what will Obama really do about it.AdamPA1006
THey should, thats stupid they arent allowed to build them

Theyre an island nation with finite resources, every reason to expand aggressively, and have done so in the past against hostile, neutral, and allied nations.

The treaty is a good idea.

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I support the militarization of Japan. The Japanese people should be allowed to defend themselves.
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#46 mrbojangles25
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I support the militarization of Japan. The Japanese people should be allowed to defend themselves.Laihendi

They are allowed to do so, and that is not what is being questioned here.

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#48 worlock77
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I support the militarization of Japan. The Japanese people should be allowed to defend themselves.Laihendi

They are.

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#49 AdamPA1006
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[QUOTE="Laihendi"]I support the militarization of Japan. The Japanese people should be allowed to defend themselves.worlock77

They are.

He forgot to say "in anyway they see fit"
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#50 PernicioEnigma
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A destroyer eh? Where are the cannons then?