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#51 surrealnumber5
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Statistically, work has a negative impact on grades.

Nikalai_88

and grades mean spittle so therefore work is more important.

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#52 pero2008
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Right now I'm passing but failing my classes. In statistics I'm getting like a 60% and a 65% is considered a C and in accounting I'm getting like a 67% and a 70% is passing. I just need to study a lot.

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#53 -Sun_Tzu-
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Not at all. Although I always tried to get an on-campus job rather than an off-campus job, because generally they are more considerate of the fact that you are a student when it comes to scheduling hours.
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#54 coolbeans90
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Part-time is easy enough to handle. Wouldn't want to do full-time.

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#55 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="Nikalai_88"]

Statistically, work has a negative impact on grades.

surrealnumber5

and grades mean spittle so therefore work is more important.

Um, that is not true at all.
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#56 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="Nikalai_88"]

Statistically, work has a negative impact on grades.

-Sun_Tzu-

and grades mean spittle so therefore work is more important.

Um, that is not true at all.

what makes it not true? college is there so you may learn skills that you will use when working right? a degree is a degree lest you want to get the next degree and need to apply for that through the school where they will review your grades and decide to let you in or not. experience is more important than grades, there is less training time for employers and as long as you have the base minimum education the rest is up to you. after your first career job your education means extremely little, at that point what is important is what ever you have chosen to specialize in.

this does not hold true for super large firms that dont care about ability just billable hours, government, or scholastic work, but to the majority of employers that is how it is. straight A's or straight C's neither matters by your third career job, your work experience, however, matters for years, basically as long as you retain those skills gained at work.

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#57 spazzx625
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Statistically, work has a negative impact on grades.

Nikalai_88
If there are statistics to back that up...I'd like to see the source.
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#58 MgamerBD
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Nah instead I flunked out third semester. Going back next semester though :D
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#59 pero2008
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Before I was hired they said I'd work 17-24 hrs a week. I've worked 35 hrs like two weeks ago lol

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#60 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="Nikalai_88"]

Statistically, work has a negative impact on grades.

spazzx625
If there are statistics to back that up...I'd like to see the source.

...studies show that 70% of all statistics are made up
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#61 spazzx625
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[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="Nikalai_88"]

Statistically, work has a negative impact on grades.

rawsavon
If there are statistics to back that up...I'd like to see the source.

...studies show that 70% of all statistics are made up

93% of statistics with percentages are believable
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#62 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="Nikalai_88"]

Statistically, work has a negative impact on grades.

rawsavon

If there are statistics to back that up...I'd like to see the source.

...studies show that 70% of all statistics are made up

49% of that is bullpie

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#63 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] and grades mean spittle so therefore work is more important.

surrealnumber5

Um, that is not true at all.

what makes it not true? college is there so you may learn skills that you will use when working right? a degree is a degree lest you want to get the next degree and need to apply for that through the school where they will review your grades and decide to let you in or not. experience is more important than grades, there is less training time for employers and as long as you have the base minimum education the rest is up to you. after your first career job your education means extremely little, at that point what is important is what ever you have chosen to specialize in.

this does not hold true for super large firms that dont care about ability just billable hours, government, or scholastic work, but to the majority of employers that is how it is. straight A's or straight C's neither matters by your third career job, your work experience, however, matters for years, basically as long as you retain those skills gained at work.

Your GPA is very important when looking for a job after college. A poor GPA does not look good on a resume. Conversely if you do very well grade-wise, that is a very nice thing to have on your resume when looking for a job. Also having done an internship is very useful when looking for a job after graduation - a mediocre GPA on an internship application is not a good thing. Plus a lot of scholarships and financial aid are dependent on your school-performance - do poorly in school and you can either end up having to take out a lot of loans or have to drop out (if the school doesn't kick you out). Grades in college are very important in many ways. By no means do they mean "spittle"
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#64 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Um, that is not true at all. -Sun_Tzu-

what makes it not true? college is there so you may learn skills that you will use when working right? a degree is a degree lest you want to get the next degree and need to apply for that through the school where they will review your grades and decide to let you in or not. experience is more important than grades, there is less training time for employers and as long as you have the base minimum education the rest is up to you. after your first career job your education means extremely little, at that point what is important is what ever you have chosen to specialize in.

this does not hold true for super large firms that dont care about ability just billable hours, government, or scholastic work, but to the majority of employers that is how it is. straight A's or straight C's neither matters by your third career job, your work experience, however, matters for years, basically as long as you retain those skills gained at work.

Your GPA is very important when looking for a job after college. A poor GPA does not look good on a resume. Conversely if you do very well grade-wise, that is a very nice thing to have on your resume when looking for a job. Also having done an internship is very useful when looking for a job after graduation - a mediocre GPA on an internship application is not a good thing. Plus a lot of scholarships and financial aid are dependent on your school-performance - do poorly in school and you can either end up having to take out a lot of loans or have to drop out (if the school doesn't kick you out). Grades in college are very important in many ways. By no means do they mean "spittle"

the option was not flunk out and get a job or dont get a job and get good grades, it was that people who work have lower grades, and i took that as an implied excuse to not work. a degree with acceptable grades and work experience trumps high grades and no work experience, i count internships as work, because the ones i had were :/. youre assuming every little outside detail that was never included before, no one ever said anything about financial aid, and that is the Crux of your argument.

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#65 -Sun_Tzu-
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] what makes it not true? college is there so you may learn skills that you will use when working right? a degree is a degree lest you want to get the next degree and need to apply for that through the school where they will review your grades and decide to let you in or not. experience is more important than grades, there is less training time for employers and as long as you have the base minimum education the rest is up to you. after your first career job your education means extremely little, at that point what is important is what ever you have chosen to specialize in.

this does not hold true for super large firms that dont care about ability just billable hours, government, or scholastic work, but to the majority of employers that is how it is. straight A's or straight C's neither matters by your third career job, your work experience, however, matters for years, basically as long as you retain those skills gained at work.

surrealnumber5

Your GPA is very important when looking for a job after college. A poor GPA does not look good on a resume. Conversely if you do very well grade-wise, that is a very nice thing to have on your resume when looking for a job. Also having done an internship is very useful when looking for a job after graduation - a mediocre GPA on an internship application is not a good thing. Plus a lot of scholarships and financial aid are dependent on your school-performance - do poorly in school and you can either end up having to take out a lot of loans or have to drop out (if the school doesn't kick you out). Grades in college are very important in many ways. By no means do they mean "spittle"

the option was not flunk out and get a job or dont get a job and get good grades, it was that people who work have lower grades, and i took that as an implied excuse to not work. a degree with acceptable grades and work experience trumps high grades and no work experience, i count internships as work, because the ones i had were :/. youre assuming every little outside detail that was never included before, no one ever said anything about financial aid, and that is the Crux of your argument.

Certainly work experience during college matters. I never said that it doesn't. But you bluntly stated that grades were meaningless - that they meant spittle. That is demonstrably false.
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#66 THGarrett
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First semester no, but it definitely got harder later on when I was taking more difficult courses and had to work 8 hour shifts constantly.

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#67 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Your GPA is very important when looking for a job after college. A poor GPA does not look good on a resume. Conversely if you do very well grade-wise, that is a very nice thing to have on your resume when looking for a job. Also having done an internship is very useful when looking for a job after graduation - a mediocre GPA on an internship application is not a good thing. Plus a lot of scholarships and financial aid are dependent on your school-performance - do poorly in school and you can either end up having to take out a lot of loans or have to drop out (if the school doesn't kick you out). Grades in college are very important in many ways. By no means do they mean "spittle" -Sun_Tzu-

the option was not flunk out and get a job or dont get a job and get good grades, it was that people who work have lower grades, and i took that as an implied excuse to not work. a degree with acceptable grades and work experience trumps high grades and no work experience, i count internships as work, because the ones i had were :/. youre assuming every little outside detail that was never included before, no one ever said anything about financial aid, and that is the Crux of your argument.

Certainly work experience during college matters. I never said that it doesn't. But you bluntly stated that grades were meaningless - that they meant spittle. That is demonstrably false.

and they do, at least to me :P

:surreal uses: subjective attack, it takes the conversation nowhere.

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#68 Suzy_Q_Kazoo
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No.

Work at least part-time during college, keep your GPA at least above 3.2, get at least one summer internship and you're a damn good candidate imo.

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#69 rawsavon
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keep your GPA at least above 3.2Suzy_Q_Kazoo
...depends on the major... For example, Engineering that seems to be an acceptable mark to hit. Accounting...not so much
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#70 Suzy_Q_Kazoo
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[QUOTE="Suzy_Q_Kazoo"] keep your GPA at least above 3.2rawsavon
...depends on the major... For example, Engineering that seems to be an acceptable mark to hit. Accounting...not so much

Oh, sure. Sorry, assumptions haha.
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#71 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Suzy_Q_Kazoo"] keep your GPA at least above 3.2Suzy_Q_Kazoo
...depends on the major... For example, Engineering that seems to be an acceptable mark to hit. Accounting...not so much

Oh, sure. Sorry, assumptions haha.

I graduated with 5 or 6 engineers (none with a GPA better than 3.5) and all found jobs (that is why I used that one).
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#72 MistressMinako
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Well, when I did have a part-time job it was just content. I had my good and bad days handling it but it wasn't really too difficult. If I had a full-time job I would die. Usually depends on the person and if they either come from a working class family or have hard working engraved in their personality. If you are used to laying around all day then you might have to kiss that goodbye.
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No.cd_rom
Same answer applies for 2nd and 3rd semester too... My experience.
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#74 xdude85
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I'm already stressed enough, and it's my first semester at college. I don't know if having a job would make things better or worse.

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#75 soulless4now
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No since I didn't have a job in my first year of college.