and grades mean spittle so therefore work is more important.Statistically, work has a negative impact on grades.
Nikalai_88
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and grades mean spittle so therefore work is more important.Statistically, work has a negative impact on grades.
Nikalai_88
[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]and grades mean spittle so therefore work is more important. Um, that is not true at all. what makes it not true? college is there so you may learn skills that you will use when working right? a degree is a degree lest you want to get the next degree and need to apply for that through the school where they will review your grades and decide to let you in or not. experience is more important than grades, there is less training time for employers and as long as you have the base minimum education the rest is up to you. after your first career job your education means extremely little, at that point what is important is what ever you have chosen to specialize in.[QUOTE="Nikalai_88"]
Statistically, work has a negative impact on grades.
-Sun_Tzu-
this does not hold true for super large firms that dont care about ability just billable hours, government, or scholastic work, but to the majority of employers that is how it is. straight A's or straight C's neither matters by your third career job, your work experience, however, matters for years, basically as long as you retain those skills gained at work.
[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="Nikalai_88"]If there are statistics to back that up...I'd like to see the source. ...studies show that 70% of all statistics are made up93% of statistics with percentages are believableStatistically, work has a negative impact on grades.
rawsavon
[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="Nikalai_88"]If there are statistics to back that up...I'd like to see the source. ...studies show that 70% of all statistics are made up 49% of that is bullpieStatistically, work has a negative impact on grades.
rawsavon
Um, that is not true at all. what makes it not true? college is there so you may learn skills that you will use when working right? a degree is a degree lest you want to get the next degree and need to apply for that through the school where they will review your grades and decide to let you in or not. experience is more important than grades, there is less training time for employers and as long as you have the base minimum education the rest is up to you. after your first career job your education means extremely little, at that point what is important is what ever you have chosen to specialize in.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] and grades mean spittle so therefore work is more important.
surrealnumber5
this does not hold true for super large firms that dont care about ability just billable hours, government, or scholastic work, but to the majority of employers that is how it is. straight A's or straight C's neither matters by your third career job, your work experience, however, matters for years, basically as long as you retain those skills gained at work.
Your GPA is very important when looking for a job after college. A poor GPA does not look good on a resume. Conversely if you do very well grade-wise, that is a very nice thing to have on your resume when looking for a job. Also having done an internship is very useful when looking for a job after graduation - a mediocre GPA on an internship application is not a good thing. Plus a lot of scholarships and financial aid are dependent on your school-performance - do poorly in school and you can either end up having to take out a lot of loans or have to drop out (if the school doesn't kick you out). Grades in college are very important in many ways. By no means do they mean "spittle"[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]what makes it not true? college is there so you may learn skills that you will use when working right? a degree is a degree lest you want to get the next degree and need to apply for that through the school where they will review your grades and decide to let you in or not. experience is more important than grades, there is less training time for employers and as long as you have the base minimum education the rest is up to you. after your first career job your education means extremely little, at that point what is important is what ever you have chosen to specialize in.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Um, that is not true at all. -Sun_Tzu-
this does not hold true for super large firms that dont care about ability just billable hours, government, or scholastic work, but to the majority of employers that is how it is. straight A's or straight C's neither matters by your third career job, your work experience, however, matters for years, basically as long as you retain those skills gained at work.
Your GPA is very important when looking for a job after college. A poor GPA does not look good on a resume. Conversely if you do very well grade-wise, that is a very nice thing to have on your resume when looking for a job. Also having done an internship is very useful when looking for a job after graduation - a mediocre GPA on an internship application is not a good thing. Plus a lot of scholarships and financial aid are dependent on your school-performance - do poorly in school and you can either end up having to take out a lot of loans or have to drop out (if the school doesn't kick you out). Grades in college are very important in many ways. By no means do they mean "spittle" the option was not flunk out and get a job or dont get a job and get good grades, it was that people who work have lower grades, and i took that as an implied excuse to not work. a degree with acceptable grades and work experience trumps high grades and no work experience, i count internships as work, because the ones i had were :/. youre assuming every little outside detail that was never included before, no one ever said anything about financial aid, and that is the Crux of your argument.Your GPA is very important when looking for a job after college. A poor GPA does not look good on a resume. Conversely if you do very well grade-wise, that is a very nice thing to have on your resume when looking for a job. Also having done an internship is very useful when looking for a job after graduation - a mediocre GPA on an internship application is not a good thing. Plus a lot of scholarships and financial aid are dependent on your school-performance - do poorly in school and you can either end up having to take out a lot of loans or have to drop out (if the school doesn't kick you out). Grades in college are very important in many ways. By no means do they mean "spittle" the option was not flunk out and get a job or dont get a job and get good grades, it was that people who work have lower grades, and i took that as an implied excuse to not work. a degree with acceptable grades and work experience trumps high grades and no work experience, i count internships as work, because the ones i had were :/. youre assuming every little outside detail that was never included before, no one ever said anything about financial aid, and that is the Crux of your argument. Certainly work experience during college matters. I never said that it doesn't. But you bluntly stated that grades were meaningless - that they meant spittle. That is demonstrably false.[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] what makes it not true? college is there so you may learn skills that you will use when working right? a degree is a degree lest you want to get the next degree and need to apply for that through the school where they will review your grades and decide to let you in or not. experience is more important than grades, there is less training time for employers and as long as you have the base minimum education the rest is up to you. after your first career job your education means extremely little, at that point what is important is what ever you have chosen to specialize in.
this does not hold true for super large firms that dont care about ability just billable hours, government, or scholastic work, but to the majority of employers that is how it is. straight A's or straight C's neither matters by your third career job, your work experience, however, matters for years, basically as long as you retain those skills gained at work.
surrealnumber5
[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]the option was not flunk out and get a job or dont get a job and get good grades, it was that people who work have lower grades, and i took that as an implied excuse to not work. a degree with acceptable grades and work experience trumps high grades and no work experience, i count internships as work, because the ones i had were :/. youre assuming every little outside detail that was never included before, no one ever said anything about financial aid, and that is the Crux of your argument. Certainly work experience during college matters. I never said that it doesn't. But you bluntly stated that grades were meaningless - that they meant spittle. That is demonstrably false. and they do, at least to me :P[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Your GPA is very important when looking for a job after college. A poor GPA does not look good on a resume. Conversely if you do very well grade-wise, that is a very nice thing to have on your resume when looking for a job. Also having done an internship is very useful when looking for a job after graduation - a mediocre GPA on an internship application is not a good thing. Plus a lot of scholarships and financial aid are dependent on your school-performance - do poorly in school and you can either end up having to take out a lot of loans or have to drop out (if the school doesn't kick you out). Grades in college are very important in many ways. By no means do they mean "spittle" -Sun_Tzu-
:surreal uses: subjective attack, it takes the conversation nowhere.
No.
Work at least part-time during college, keep your GPA at least above 3.2, get at least one summer internship and you're a damn good candidate imo.
[QUOTE="Suzy_Q_Kazoo"] keep your GPA at least above 3.2rawsavon...depends on the major... For example, Engineering that seems to be an acceptable mark to hit. Accounting...not so muchOh, sure. Sorry, assumptions haha.
[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Suzy_Q_Kazoo"] keep your GPA at least above 3.2Suzy_Q_Kazoo...depends on the major... For example, Engineering that seems to be an acceptable mark to hit. Accounting...not so muchOh, sure. Sorry, assumptions haha. I graduated with 5 or 6 engineers (none with a GPA better than 3.5) and all found jobs (that is why I used that one).
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