John McCain: Palin can beat Obama in 2012.

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#101 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]Uh.... They were rising very quickly, and tens of millions of people weren't covered which everyone agrees is a problem since they can't be denied care. I guess this is where I mirror your question back at you: Where is the Republican proposal for health care reform? The most recent one they supported was an incarnation of the one that was passed.airshocker

They were rising, but not as fast as ObamaCare made them rise.

Ryan had some ideas, can you tell me which one of these made it into ObamaCare?

  • Provides a refundable tax credit – $2,300 for individuals and $5,700 for families – to purchase coverage in any State, and keep it with them if they move or change jobs.
  • Provides transparency in health care price and quality data, making this critical information readily available before someone needs health services.
  • Creates state-based health care exchanges, so individuals and families have a one-stop marketplace to purchase affordable health insurance without being discriminated against based on pre-existing conditions.
  • Equips states with tools like auto-enrollment programs and high-risk pools, so affordable health coverage can be accessed by all.
  • Addresses health care's growing strain on small businesses, by allowing them to pool together nationally to offer coverage to their employees.
  • Encourages the adoption of health information technology and assists states in establishing solutions to medical malpractice litigation.

And it doesn't address the most glaring factor into rising health care costs. People going into the ER w/o health insurance and thus causing my premiums to go up. Ryan's plan is just the GOP ideology on paper.

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#102 Mafiree
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Making the same mistake twice ftl.
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#103 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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And it doesn't address the most glaring factor into rising health care costs. People going into the ER w/o health insurance and thus causing my premiums to go up. Ryan's plan is just the GOP ideology on paper.

DroidPhysX

Then perhaps it's a problem with the law requiring that hospitals treat those who come into the ER.

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#104 branketra
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I don't know anything about her.

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#105 Pixel-Pirate
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Of course he's going to say that. He'd be kicked out of the party if he went against the parties darling. He knows she cost him the presidency and she could never win it.

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#106 Moriarity_
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If she wins the 2012 election I just might start to believe that the world will end in 2012.
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#107 topsemag55
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Even though a lot of people seem to hate her, she gets props from me for riding a Harley during Rolling Thunder for Nam vets on Memorial Day.

memorial day

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#108 mrmusicman247
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Even though a lot of people seem to hate her, she gets props from me for riding a Harley during Rolling Thunder for Nam vets on Memorial Day.

memorial day

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Oh I don't hate her. I mean, who could resist that accent? :P

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#109 whitetiger3521
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Hmm a woman president, Does she have what it takes to handle the pressure? Most woman are too emotional for a big leader position like that.

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#110 DroidPhysX
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Hmm a woman president, Does she have what it takes to handle the pressure? Most woman are too emotional for a big leader position like that.

whitetiger3521
I wonder how awkward the trips to the middle east are going to go.
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#111 mattbbpl
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

And it doesn't address the most glaring factor into rising health care costs. People going into the ER w/o health insurance and thus causing my premiums to go up. Ryan's plan is just the GOP ideology on paper.

Then perhaps it's a problem with the law requiring that hospitals treat those who come into the ER.

Yes, let's have the Republicans run on that platform and see what happens.
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#112 Ultimas_Blade
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

And it doesn't address the most glaring factor into rising health care costs. People going into the ER w/o health insurance and thus causing my premiums to go up. Ryan's plan is just the GOP ideology on paper.

airshocker

Then perhaps it's a problem with the law requiring that hospitals treat those who come into the ER.

That's inhuman and frankly stupid. If you were in a an accident and they couldn't find your IDs or insurance card I hope you'd be satisfied in your conservative wonderland.

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#113 white_wolf922
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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]Cap and trade was not only a Republican supported idea originally, but it has since been dropped and it not currently being persued. The Obama administration is also acquiescing to repealing the $600 vendor purchase reporting requirement. As for unemployment, it tankes under a Republican administration and has been rising since. Besides that, the only GOP proposal I've seen to decrease unemployment is to lower taxes - surely we can agree that such an idea is ludicrous when the same people are pandering to lower the deficit.airshocker

The damage has already been done. That's the point.

We need a new President that is going to be far more friendly towards business in order to bring this economy back.

Is it not wise to eliminate loopholes and bring our corporate income tax down to a more reasonable level? Considering states tack their own corporate tax onto them, we should be lowering the corporate income tax.

You can't get much more friendly with business than the U.S. We let corporations do whatever they want, we even declare that they have freedom of speech. If you think the wall street, big business sell out Obama isn't friendly enough for business, I'd hate to see how you feel about an actual progressive in office such as Kucinich, who I really hope can get the nomination in 2016.
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#114 worlock77
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]Cap and trade was not only a Republican supported idea originally, but it has since been dropped and it not currently being persued. The Obama administration is also acquiescing to repealing the $600 vendor purchase reporting requirement. As for unemployment, it tankes under a Republican administration and has been rising since. Besides that, the only GOP proposal I've seen to decrease unemployment is to lower taxes - surely we can agree that such an idea is ludicrous when the same people are pandering to lower the deficit.white_wolf922

The damage has already been done. That's the point.

We need a new President that is going to be far more friendly towards business in order to bring this economy back.

Is it not wise to eliminate loopholes and bring our corporate income tax down to a more reasonable level? Considering states tack their own corporate tax onto them, we should be lowering the corporate income tax.

You can't get much more friendly with business than the U.S. We let corporations do whatever they want, we even declare that they have freedom of speech. If you think the wall street, big business sell out Obama isn't friendly enough for business, I'd hate to see how you feel about an actual progressive in office such as Kucinich, who I really hope can get the nomination in 2016.

I have nothing against Kucinich, but frankly speaking he'll never get within sniffing distance of the nomination.

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#115 scorch-62
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This is coming from the same guy who was fairly certain he would win the election with her in 2008.
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#116 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]I was convinced weeks ago that she wasn't going to run. But now she seems to be making slight moves in preparing herself for an official candidacy. I guess current speculation is that she'll try to time it with the upcoming documentary about her.airshocker

Even if she does, it won't matter. I guarantee it's going to be either Romney, Pawlenty or Huntsman who win the primary nomination. I'm hoping Huntsman does because I think he can sway a lot of moderate Dems and independents.

T-Paw!!!!

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#117 Iantheone
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I doubt people are ready for a female president just yet.magicalclick
Well, not this one anyway
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#118 Blue-Sky
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

And it doesn't address the most glaring factor into rising health care costs. People going into the ER w/o health insurance and thus causing my premiums to go up. Ryan's plan is just the GOP ideology on paper.

Ultimas_Blade

Then perhaps it's a problem with the law requiring that hospitals treat those who come into the ER.

That's inhuman and frankly stupid. If you were in a an accident and they couldn't find your IDs or insurance card I hope you'd be satisfied in your conservative wonderland.

Could you imagine? Little girl with gun shot wound at the ER..

"Sorry, no insurance, no service"

*Leaves her to die on the steps*

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#119 angrules23
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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I think he's doing well within in the confines of what he's allowed to do.

The problem with Americans is their idea of what the President can do is unrealistic. They don't understand our Government. I've seen people go "Obama isn't doing anything so I'm voting Republican" The republicans go "Our #1 Priority is to stop Obama from doing anything" - Do you see the circle?

The problem with America in general, isn't the Executive branch. I think President is fine. What needs to change is our congress and senate.

airshocker

Our President is the leader. He sets the goal for the rest of the country. When I see unemployment STILL at 9%, I'm not going to blame Congress, I'm going to blame the President. HE has a much bigger influence on our economy than the legislature.

Actually you can blame economics, not the president. Downturns and recessions are just a part of the economic cycle, we were in an extended period of prosperity, you thought it could last forever?
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#120 ehhwhatever
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Palin isn't running for President.
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#121 AceofTrades
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If she's his (Obama's) opponent, he's guranteed a 2nd term.

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#122 THGarrett
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Well anything is possible.

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#123 mlbslugger86
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Do I Want An Airhead That Said She Could See Russia From Her Back Yard?

Or the Governor Who Quit After Only 2 Years To Pursue A Bid That Went Noplace?

I want A Woman Prez, just not her

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#124 needled24-7
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I doubt people are ready for a female president just yet.magicalclick
or maybe a female president IS what we need. i mean, the government seems ****ed up already, just in general, so why not let a female see what she can do with it, *****es are good at cleaning **** up.

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#125 topsemag55
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I want A Woman Prez, just not her

mlbslugger86

Translation - must be a liberal.:P

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#126 topsemag55
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[QUOTE="whitetiger3521"]

Hmm a woman president, Does she have what it takes to handle the pressure? Most woman are too emotional for a big leader position like that.

DroidPhysX

I wonder how awkward the trips to the middle east are going to go.

You think that stopped Margaret Thatcher or Golda Meir?

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#127 GabuEx
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(Sarah Palin) Said She Could See Russia From Her Back Yard?

mlbslugger86

Actually, that was Tina Fey, and it was her house. :P

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#128 krazykillaz
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Can she? Sure. Should she? **** no.
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#129 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

And it doesn't address the most glaring factor into rising health care costs. People going into the ER w/o health insurance and thus causing my premiums to go up. Ryan's plan is just the GOP ideology on paper.

Ultimas_Blade

Then perhaps it's a problem with the law requiring that hospitals treat those who come into the ER.

That's inhuman and frankly stupid. If you were in a an accident and they couldn't find your IDs or insurance card I hope you'd be satisfied in your conservative wonderland.

What, your arm ogot ripped off and your bleeding to death, sorry we dont have your ID card, we're going to leave you outside.
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#130 -TheSecondSign-
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If Palin wins the election I'll be back in England before they can spit.

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#131 Alter_Echo
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She has no chance at all. The only people that would vote for her are the ones that fall for her pandering "every woman" crap or simply because she is a woman. If you add up all of those groups i just mentioned it would be like 5% of what she needs to have a legit shot.

Hell, half the people that would have voted for a republican would probably go vote for Obama simply because of how frightening it would be to put Palin in office. If she were to somehow get the nomination it would be the largest margin of victory ( for Obama ) in the history of American politics.

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#132 scorch-62
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[QUOTE="mlbslugger86"](Sarah Palin) Said She Could See Russia From Her Back Yard?GabuEx
Actually, that was Tina Fey, and it was her house. :P

Though admittedly, that wasn't far from the actual interview.
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#133 fueled-system
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I am surprised people think she would not win the nomination..

She would not win though obviously in the election

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#134 Serraph105
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Oh really John? Like she helped you win in the last presidential election?
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#135 comp_atkins
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only if house pets are given the right to vote.