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#51 worlock77
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Shouldn't these Atheist guys be trying to abolish something any reasonable person with at least a little common sense can all agree on? Maybe something like abolishing The Westboro Baptist Church? Toph_Girl250

How exactly would they do that?

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#52 Rhazakna
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Atheist activism continues to make atheists look like dipshits.
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I think you need to learn the true spirit and meaning of Christmas.Storm_Marine
Worshiping Saturn in a week-long festival of orgies and feasting?
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]I think you need to learn the true spirit and meaning of Christmas.foxhound_fox
Worshiping Saturn in a week-long festival of orgies and feasting?

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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]I think you need to learn the true spirit and meaning of Christmas.foxhound_fox
Worshiping Saturn in a week-long festival of orgies and feasting?

Bah, Christmas. Creates too much business and crowds all over the place, and people waste money on stuff that just winds up being pointless and obsolete fast, at least more often than not it seems. Kids and parents should be thankful for what they have, count their blessings. Besides, if kids really want gifts... there's such a thing called Birthdays... but apparently just gifts on Birthdays isn't good enough. And another point, Santa isn't even real, don't see the point in parents having to create this lie for their kids.
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[QUOTE="Toph_Girl250"]Shouldn't these Atheist guys be trying to abolish something any reasonable person with at least a little common sense can all agree on? Maybe something like abolishing The Westboro Baptist Church? worlock77

How exactly would they do that?

Do you have any ideas? Or is the government protection on it just too powerful?
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]I think you need to learn the true spirit and meaning of Christmas.Toph_Girl250
Worshiping Saturn in a week-long festival of orgies and feasting?

Bah, Christmas. Creates too much business and crowds all over the place, and people waste money on stuff that just winds up being pointless and obsolete fast, at least more often than not it seems. Kids and parents should be thankful for what they have, count their blessings. Besides, if kids really want gifts... there's such a thing called Birthdays... but apparently just gifts on Birthdays isn't good enough. And another point, Santa isn't even real, don't see the point in parents having to create this lie for their kids.

OT is full of scrooges it seems.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]I think you need to learn the true spirit and meaning of Christmas.Toph_Girl250
Worshiping Saturn in a week-long festival of orgies and feasting?

Bah, Christmas. Creates too much business and crowds all over the place, and people waste money on stuff that just winds up being pointless and obsolete fast, at least more often than not it seems. Kids and parents should be thankful for what they have, count their blessings. Besides, if kids really want gifts... there's such a thing called Birthdays... but apparently just gifts on Birthdays isn't good enough. And another point, Santa isn't even real, don't see the point in parents having to create this lie for their kids.

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#60 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Toph_Girl250"]Shouldn't these Atheist guys be trying to abolish something any reasonable person with at least a little common sense can all agree on? Maybe something like abolishing The Westboro Baptist Church? Toph_Girl250

How exactly would they do that?

Do you have any ideas? Or is the government protection on it just too powerful?

Well there's that pesky 1st Amendment thing...

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I get mad at the phrase but then I cross my eyes and see In Dog We Trust and then I am not mad because I like dogs so I'm happy.

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Shouldn't these Atheist guys be trying to abolish something any reasonable person with at least a little common sense can all agree on? Maybe something like abolishing The Westboro Baptist Church? Toph_Girl250
Why would they try to get rid of the WBC? It provides more free anti-Christian propaganda than they could ever dream up on their own.

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Atheists being crybabies again. Why even care?
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#64 coolkid93
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It should stay. People will whine about anything. Does seeing it hurt you? Does it burn a whole in your pocket? Just ignore it. I've seen things in life that are against my religion but I don't be making lawsuits or anything. I don't care for it but it doesn't bother me either. 

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"We have been assured Sir, in the sacred writings, (he was holding a Bible) that except the Lord build, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the Builders of Babel" .

That was Benjamin Franklin, giving the CALL TO PRAYER at the Constitutional Convention.



I guess Ben and the other authors of the Constitution, didn't know about the "separation of church and state" in the Constitution.

That's probably because  - it's not in the Constitution.

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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

I don't see an issue with it being removed from the currency. Some of us don't believe in god, after all.

JML897

I don't see an issue with it being removed from the currency. I also don't see why anyone gives a shit that it is on the currency. Do people really not have more important things to worry about?

If we did, we wouldn't be posting here...

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Some people have a problem that makes them concerned over the dumbest of matters. if they aren't bitching and/or suing something must be wrong. You can sue a ham sandwich but that doesn't mean you should go through with it. Each minute that passes by makes society even more stupid.
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Good to see the good guys win one.
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Some people have a problem that makes them concerned over the dumbest of matters. if they aren't bitching and/or suing something must be wrong. You can sue a ham sandwich but that doesn't mean you should go through with it. Each minute that passes by makes society even more stupid. Solaryellow

We should be more worried about the fact that the Fourth Reich seems to be rising in Quebec right now.  

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ACLJ Applauds Federal Court Decision Dismissing Atheist Lawsuit Challenging National Motto on U.S. Currency after Dr. Michael Newdow and the Freedom From Religion Foundation brought the lawsuit in federal court to have In God We Trust removed from coins and currency in the US.

The Supreme Court has affirmed that it is perfectly legal to have the motto on the money and the federal judge backed it up again.

Should it remain or should it go? Remember that while there is a seperation of church and state, the motto does not define any particular religion.

WhiteKnight77

Kind of weird to file a lawsuit if the Supreme Court has already ruled on this issue.

If these people don't like seeing "In God we trust" on their money, then they can just hand that money over to me.

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eh.. most money is already digital.. does that mean they need to remove "01001001 01101110 00100000 01000111 01101111 01100100 00100000 01110111 01100101 00100000 01110100 01110010 01110101 01110011 01110100" from all the code as well?
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"We have been assured Sir, in the sacred writings, (he was holding a Bible) that except the Lord build, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the Builders of Babel" .

That was Benjamin Franklin, giving the CALL TO PRAYER at the Constitutional Convention.



I guess Ben and the other authors of the Constitution, didn't know about the "separation of church and state" in the Constitution.

That's probably because  - it's not in the Constitution.

Born_Lucky

Not sure what Constitution you've read, but it is in the U.S. Constitution. And since we're cherry-picking quotes by Founding Fathers I'll give you this one from Thomas Jefferson - 

"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their "legislature" should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between church and State."

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I dont understand why they even careCapitan_Kid
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I don't think it should be on money, nor should it be in the pledge of allegiance.
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[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]I dont understand why they even carechaoscougar1

I don't understand why Christians aren't bothered by it. Associating God with Mammon seems pretty blasphemous to me.

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It shouldn't be on our money or in the pledge of allegiance ,but I don't think most people care enough to change it. Its honestly not worth the money or legal hassle involved. 

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[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]I dont understand why they even carechaoscougar1

How many American's would rage if it did get removed? Way more than the entire population of American atheists.
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"We have been assured Sir, in the sacred writings, (he was holding a Bible) that except the Lord build, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the Builders of Babel" .

That was Benjamin Franklin, giving the CALL TO PRAYER at the Constitutional Convention.



I guess Ben and the other authors of the Constitution, didn't know about the "separation of church and state" in the Constitution.

That's probably because  - it's not in the Constitution.

Born_Lucky

And? This is about law, not about one man's religious convictions. He could call for what ever he wanted, but he couldn't mandate religious belief/acts by law. It doesn't say "No person shall speak of religion" it says "Congress shall make no law regarding an establishment of religion, ..."

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[QUOTE="Born_Lucky"]


"We have been assured Sir, in the sacred writings, (he was holding a Bible) that except the Lord build, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the Builders of Babel" .

That was Benjamin Franklin, giving the CALL TO PRAYER at the Constitutional Convention.



I guess Ben and the other authors of the Constitution, didn't know about the "separation of church and state" in the Constitution.

That's probably because - it's not in the Constitution.

worlock77

Not sure what Constitution you've read, but it is in the U.S. Constitution. And since we're cherry-picking quotes by Founding Fathers I'll give you this one from Thomas Jefferson -

"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their "legislature" should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between church and State."

Walls have gates or doors though.

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[QUOTE="Born_Lucky"]


"We have been assured Sir, in the sacred writings, (he was holding a Bible) that except the Lord build, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the Builders of Babel" .

That was Benjamin Franklin, giving the CALL TO PRAYER at the Constitutional Convention.



I guess Ben and the other authors of the Constitution, didn't know about the "separation of church and state" in the Constitution.

That's probably because - it's not in the Constitution.

Inconsistancy

And? This is about law, not about one man's religious convictions. He could call for what ever he wanted, but he couldn't mandate religious belief/acts by law. It doesn't say "No person shall speak of religion" it says "Congress shall make no law regarding an establishment of religion, ..."

I don't think the government can really mandate any kind of beliefs.

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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]I dont understand why they even carefoxhound_fox

How many American's would rage if it did get removed? Way more than the entire population of American atheists.

Exactly So how about they be the bigger men and get over it
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If it gets removed I'd appluad, but if it stays I don't care either.  I'm more annoyed that way too many americans think the saying was on money and in pledge from the get go which is 100% false.

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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]Exactly So how about they be the bigger men and get over it

Get over what? The government going against it's own Consti... oh wait. That happens all the time.
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It shouldn't be on our money or in the pledge of allegiance ,but I don't think most people care enough to change it. Its honestly not worth the money or legal hassle involved. 

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What money or legal hassle? It'd be a pretty simple matter to have the phrase removed from our money.