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#1 Sajedene
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And I must say... it was GREAT ... until you start asking questions. Now don't get me wrong, I was super excited for this. I thought it was well done. The casting was TOP NOTCH. The actors were great portraying their roles. I really liked Zachery Quinto as Spock and I personally thought Simon Pegg was great as Scotty and I could have used more John Cho on screen as Zulu. Each character has their own little thing you'll recognize as "them".

Visually stunning of course -- practically hiring a small country to work on the graphics.

Now the thing is, JJ Abrams cheated. And you will get what I mean by that if you've seen this movie or when you go see it (The concept has already been mentioned in other threads but I would like to keep it as general as possible in this first post). I still can't decide whether I hate him or I gotta give him props for what he just did to the series and its continuity. Not going to lie, I am pretty excited to see the chaos that will ensue with this. Me and my friend disected it and could see the arguments of how this fits into the continuity (because it does) but then -- its JJ Abrams' Star Trek and he can pretty much do whatever he wants with it now.


That statement should sum it up. JJ Abrams cheated, this is his Star Trek, and you could either love him or hate him for it. I think, you'll appreciate the movie a lot more if you come to terms with what JJ Abrams did (CHEAT!), or if you have no prior Star Trek experience.

Thoughts? Concerns? Anyone else seen it? I would love to talk about it more :D

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#2 XD4NTESINF3RNOX
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AWESOME CAN'T WAIT!!!! thx for the tip i knew i was gonna go see it but now sounds even better thanks :) and how do you get such an awesome job with a buisness degree

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#3 remmbermytitans
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As someone that never really got Star Trek, am I going to like it?
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#4 Sajo7
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Sweet. I'll probably see it when I visit my girlfriend. It sounds like the movie works well with non fans of the series. So I'm sure we'll enjoy it, if the trekkies won't. :P
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#5 Neon-Tiger
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If I only cared fro Star Trek. Another film I'm skipping.
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#6 lonewolf604
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was it weird seeing John Cho in the movie?
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#7 Film-Guy
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I'm only seeing it because a kid at my school is it in it. I don't like JJ Abrams or star trek much.

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#8 CleanPlayer
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I can't wait to see this. I don't even know what Star Trek is all about, but I am a huge fan of Abrams work.
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#9 Sajedene
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As someone that never really got Star Trek, am I going to like it? remmbermytitans
If I only cared fro Star Trek. Another film I'm skipping.Neon-Tiger
Here's the thing... its made for YOU guys. They threw in stuff there for the Star Trek fans -- and if you're familiar with the Star Trek history -- all these questions come up and as I said -- actually, arguably makes sense with how JJ did it -- but if you were never a fan or have no idea what the eff Star Trek is about, you'll most likely appreciate this more for what he is giving you -- a visually stunning, character driven story. You guys will have no basis to bring up the questions that me and my friend came up with -- and can surprisingly answer because -- and if you watch the movie -- I say it again and so does he -- JJ Cheated. But as it was in the movie, do you condemn or praise the guy for KNOWINGLY doing so?
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#10 Sajedene
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AWESOME CAN'T WAIT!!!! thx for the tip i knew i was gonna go see it but now sounds even better thanks :) and how do you get such an awesome job with a buisness degree

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was it weird seeing John Cho in the movie?lonewolf604
Not at all. He was great! I kind of wish there was more of him but now that I think about it -- it might be just right. He had great scenes. One thing I give credit to JJ is that he made sure each of the characters fans know got some good screen time. Really good screen time.
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#11 Sajo7
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I say it again and so does he -- JJ Cheated. But as it was in the movie, do you condemn or praise the guy for KNOWINGLY doing so?Sajedene
You can shut me up if what I say is not true, but as I understand it the original series has a plot that was both campy and convoluted. Is it that big of an issue that Abrams messed with that to make it more clear and precise?
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#12 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"]I say it again and so does he -- JJ Cheated. But as it was in the movie, do you condemn or praise the guy for KNOWINGLY doing so?Sajo7
You can shut me up if what I say is not true, but as I understand it the original series has a plot that was both campy and convoluted. Is it that big of an issue that Abrams messed with that to make it more clear and precise?

I could say sure... in a sense that JJ made it his -- but at the same time, when you see the movie, you could interpret it as the original series plot was untouched or you can ask yourself "what original plot?" (This is hard without doing any spoilers :o )
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#13 Sajo7
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(This is hard without doing any spoilers :o )Sajedene
Yeah I guess it is. I'll get back to you in two weeks when I see it. :P
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#14 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"](This is hard without doing any spoilers :o )Sajo7
Yeah I guess it is. I'll get back to you in two weeks when I see it. :P

There is so much discussion on it -- and I have no one to talk to :cry:
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#15 Sajo7
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[QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="Sajedene"](This is hard without doing any spoilers :o )Sajedene
Yeah I guess it is. I'll get back to you in two weeks when I see it. :P

There is so much discussion on it -- and I have no one to talk to :cry:

The curse of pre-screening. At least when I saw The Dark Knight I had plenty of people to blab to about it.
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#16 Bumzur
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I'm glad someone came along and cleaned up the Star Trek series.
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#17 alphamale1989
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Well I kind of thought this movie was going to fail for some reason so I'm glad to here you liked it. I really wonder what you mean by saying that Abrams 'cheated' but I guess I'll just wait and see.
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#18 Nerd_Man
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Glad to hear you liked it Saje.

I've never been a fan of Star Trek, but it sounds like I would like it then because it's good for newcomers.... I'm considering seeing it, just to see what all the fuss is about. If it continues to get near universal great reviews by the critics, then I think we have a winner for Summer Blockbuster film.

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#21 Neon-Tiger
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In second thought, your thread title really suggests it ws a good movie. After all you just came from watching it. Or so I read.
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#24 Sajedene
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In second thought, your thread title really suggests it ws a good movie. After all you just came from watching it. Or so I read.  Neon-Tiger
:o I see what you did there... and its kinda sorta true. Not going to elaborate further than that :twisted:

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#25 DigitalExile
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The trailer makes the movie seem more grounded. It looks as if it's lost all the cheesy, goofy, nerdy aspects that the series is known for, but keeps enough of the univer intact to make it Star Trek.

If I were to see it I think I would enjoy it because of that, unlike previous movies that have kept me away for those simple reasons.

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#26 bminns
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i've never seen the original star trek movies, but i'm excited to see this movie

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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Sajedene"] Actually that is a spoiler. So good job.

Well, i havent seen the film. Do they elaborate on those events early on in the film?

First part of the film is background establishment of the "background" of Kirk and Spock. Then a quick academy thing and how they got on the Enterprise. What you mentioned above is the outer shell of the plot which affects the whole movie. And that plot is the reason why I say JJ cheated (but is it a good thing or a bad thing -- the movie even asks that) -- its his franchise now.

Oh, i see. well i was never really a star trek fan.( more star wars, minus the prequels) But i love sci-fi, and this film looks like its going to be fantastic. I don't know much about star trek, just the basics, but that doesnt sound like a bad thing. I'll have to wait in see i suppose.
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#28 krazykillaz
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I heard he basically just threw out everything from the original storyline except for the characters.
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#29 SaintLeonidas
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One of the main reasons Im even going to see it is because it is J.J. Abrams Star Trek and not the Star Trek of the past.
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#30 Baranga
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[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="alphamale1989"]Well I kind of thought this movie was going to fail for some reason so I'm glad to here you liked it. I really wonder what you mean by saying that Abrams 'cheated' but I guess I'll just wait and see.Sajedene
She means that they used an alternate reality scenario to revamp the entire series. Basically, this really pissed off Romulan travels back in time to seek revenge and in doing so ends up in what seems to be an alternate universe, or everything gets scrambled and starts over. Something like that. I don't think that's much of a spoiler, just the plot.

Actually that is a spoiler. So good job.

The third trailer already gave this away, around 1:40

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#31 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Ugh. Alternate universe. Do not want.
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#32 DrSponge
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I've never seen or been interested in Star Trek but I'll probably see this.
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#33 montzag
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Interesting, sounds cool and it's been totally killing the reviews so far. I am definitely more amped to see this and I think my relatively limited knowledge of ST will probably help me going into this because some of the fans seem to be quite disappointed.
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#34 JimCarreyForYou
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I'm not a Star Trek fan but I watched some trailers the other day and let me tell you that it seemed like it was going to be a good space movie. Being a long time without one.
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#35 duxup
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I'm not really interested. It looks like garbage to me.
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I'm not really interested. It looks like garbage to me.duxup
You really dislike this moviedon't you :lol: ? I'll see it but I might not enjoy it as much as you.

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#37 duxup
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[QUOTE="duxup"]I'm not really interested. It looks like garbage to me.Wilfred_Owen

You really dislike this moviedon't you :lol: ? I'll see it but I might not enjoy it as much as you.

I just don't see much to like.
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#38 Curlyfrii87
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I'm pumped for this one! Seeing it this weekend!

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[QUOTE="Wilfred_Owen"]

[QUOTE="duxup"]I'm not really interested. It looks like garbage to me.duxup

You really dislike this moviedon't you :lol: ? I'll see it but I might not enjoy it as much as you.

I just don't see much to like.

a youthful group of adventurers explore the universe with lazors and aliens!
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And I must say... it was GREAT ... until you start asking questions. Now don't get me wrong, I was super excited for this. I thought it was well done. The casting was TOP NOTCH. The actors were great portraying their roles. I really liked Zachery Quinto as Spock and I personally thought Simon Pegg was great as Scotty and I could have used more John Cho on screen as Zulu. Each character has their own little thing you'll recognize as "them".

Visually stunning of course -- practically hiring a small country to work on the graphics.

Now the thing is, JJ Abrams cheated. And you will get what I mean by that if you've seen this movie or when you go see it (The concept has already been mentioned in other threads but I would like to keep it as general as possible in this first post). I still can't decide whether I hate him or I gotta give him props for what he just did to the series and its continuity. Not going to lie, I am pretty excited to see the chaos that will ensue with this. Me and my friend disected it and could see the arguments of how this fits into the continuity (because it does) but then -- its JJ Abrams' Star Trek and he can pretty much do whatever he wants with it now.


That statement should sum it up. JJ Abrams cheated, this is his Star Trek, and you could either love him or hate him for it. I think, you'll appreciate the movie a lot more if you come to terms with what JJ Abrams did (CHEAT!), or if you have no prior Star Trek experience.

Thoughts? Concerns? Anyone else seen it? I would love to talk about it more :D

Sajedene

Glad to hear you liked it.

The lady & I are looking forward to seeing the movie. We watchedthe TNG series together

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[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="Wilfred_Owen"] You really dislike this moviedon't you :lol: ? I'll see it but I might not enjoy it as much as you.

Jandurin

I just don't see much to like.

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If I had a war machine worth trillions of whatever they use, I know thats who i'd want flying it!

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#42 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"] She means that they used an alternate reality scenario to revamp the entire series. Basically, this really pissed off Romulan travels back in time to seek revenge and in doing so ends up in what seems to be an alternate universe, or everything gets scrambled and starts over. Something like that. I don't think that's much of a spoiler, just the plot.Baranga

Actually that is a spoiler. So good job.

The third trailer already gave this away, around 1:40

All the trailer showed was the Romulan attack. Anyone aware that Eric Bana was in the movie would know that. It makes no mention of any alternate reality scenario. On that note... I know plenty of Star Trek fans saw the trailer and were like "OMFG Sex Scene!" For those expecting to see a sex scene -- well you're SOL. There is none. And that is my one spoiler.
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#43 69ANT69
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Ahh, I'm glad you posted this, I wasn't planning on seeing it as I have never been a Star Trek fan, but from what you have said it sounds quite good.
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I know plenty of Star Trek fans saw the trailer and were like "OMFG Sex Scene!" For those expecting to see a sex scene -- well you're SOL. There is none. And that is my one spoiler. Sajedene
I don't know why when I read this I just pictured " The Big Bang Theory " TV show and Lol'ed...
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[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="Wilfred_Owen"] You really dislike this moviedon't you :lol: ? I'll see it but I might not enjoy it as much as you.

Jandurin

I just don't see much to like.

a youthful group of adventurers explore the universe with lazors and aliens!

It just looks like The OC: Star Trek. Not my cup of tea.

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I always thought star trek was boring but I actually want to see this movie judging from the trailers

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="duxup"] I just don't see much to like. duxup

a youthful group of adventurers explore the universe with lazors and aliens!

It just looks like The OC: Star Trek. Not my cup of tea.

Why don't you try watching it first?
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[QUOTE="remmbermytitans"]As someone that never really got Star Trek, am I going to like it? Sajedene
If I only cared fro Star Trek. Another film I'm skipping.Neon-Tiger
Here's the thing... its made for YOU guys. They threw in stuff there for the Star Trek fans -- and if you're familiar with the Star Trek history -- all these questions come up and as I said -- actually, arguably makes sense with how JJ did it -- but if you were never a fan or have no idea what the eff Star Trek is about, you'll most likely appreciate this more for what he is giving you -- a visually stunning, character driven story. You guys will have no basis to bring up the questions that me and my friend came up with -- and can surprisingly answer because -- and if you watch the movie -- I say it again and so does he -- JJ Cheated. But as it was in the movie, do you condemn or praise the guy for KNOWINGLY doing so?

I guess I'll go see it then.
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#49 Sajedene
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="duxup"] I just don't see much to like. duxup

a youthful group of adventurers explore the universe with lazors and aliens!

It just looks like The OC: Star Trek. Not my cup of tea.

It's not that at all. I hated The OC -- I wouldn't use that analogy on it.
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[QUOTE="duxup"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] a youthful group of adventurers explore the universe with lazors and aliens!xxDustmanxx

It just looks like The OC: Star Trek. Not my cup of tea.

Why don't you try watching it first?

no, you :x