Kill Bill Vol.1 vs Vol 2?

Which do you like better? I really like both movies. I like the style, music, black and white, feel, action, EVERYTHING about both movies, they are just FUN movies to watch. For some reason however I like the first one better. I think its because of the awesome fight at the end.

I bet you're watching Vol.II right now. . .me too.:P

I alos prefer Vol.I. Not sure why.

Personally I enjoyed Vol. 2 a lot more than 1. I don't get why everyone seems to love Vol. 1 and dislike Vol. 2.

I like the second one a lot more

Were you watching them on Spike as well?? I only caught the first one since the Mets/Yankees game is on now but that one's my favorite to watch. The last fight scene is awesome but I just love the chapter: The Man from Okinawa. That whole bar scene just makes me lol everytime I see it.

LOL I caught the end of the first one on SPIKE and am now watching the second one. I TiVo'd the second one and the 1st one will be on later so I can record it too!

Both are awful, except the music. I hate how people think the fact that Tarantino making homages and references to other films makes him a clever filmmaker. It doesn't. Good movies need a good plot and character development. The Kill Bill films are poorly paced and there are no limits on the abilities of the main character. She always comes up with a more ridiculous or violent way to kill someone at the last moment, and it makes it hard to identify with her as a victim, which is a core element of the revenge flick. I understand he's referencing samurai films and spaghetti Westerns. That doesn't mean the movie is good, it just means Tarantino has seen a lot of other movies.savebattery

I don´t think you really understand the movies. =|

[QUOTE="savebattery"]Both are awful, except the music. I hate how people think the fact that Tarantino making homages and references to other films makes him a clever filmmaker. It doesn't. Good movies need a good plot and character development. The Kill Bill films are poorly paced and there are no limits on the abilities of the main character. She always comes up with a more ridiculous or violent way to kill someone at the last moment, and it makes it hard to identify with her as a victim, which is a core element of the revenge flick. I understand he's referencing samurai films and spaghetti Westerns. That doesn't mean the movie is good, it just means Tarantino has seen a lot of other movies.BiancaDK

I don´t think you really understand the movies. =|

=/ and youre complaining of crimes in your other thread... anyway, kill bill vol 2 was superior8-Bitterness

movie violence is completely different than real life child murderers/torturers. Thats like saying since I play GTA4 I condone violence in the world.

Both are awful, except the music. I hate how people think the fact that Tarantino making homages and references to other films makes him a clever filmmaker. It doesn't. Good movies need a good plot and character development. The Kill Bill films are poorly paced and there are no limits on the abilities of the main character. She always comes up with a more ridiculous or violent way to kill someone at the last moment, and it makes it hard to identify with her as a victim, which is a core element of the revenge flick. I understand he's referencing samurai films and spaghetti Westerns. That doesn't mean the movie is good, it just means Tarantino has seen a lot of other movies.savebattery

It's not exactly like she should be allowed to die. :| I think the whole "getting shot in the head on her wedding day and being completely separated from her daughter for the first four years of her life after her friends and fiance are murdered" deal that is present throughout the movie kinda helps with identifying with her as a victim. And, hell, she gets shot at and buried alive in the second one. She has to kill the people she's going after because that's her objective (though she never kills two of them, and one dies from someone else).

Of course I understand them. They're simply not good. Pulp Fiction was a great movie, but ever since then Tarantino thinks he craps gold.savebattery

Well, reading your reasons as to why the movie sucked, i can only conclude that you don´t understand what tarantino had in mind when he decided to make the kill bills.

Secondly, if they were not good, how come people generally like them?

Thirdly, what does tarantinos inflated ego have to do with anything?

[QUOTE="savebattery"]Both are awful, except the music. I hate how people think the fact that Tarantino making homages and references to other films makes him a clever filmmaker. It doesn't. Good movies need a good plot and character development. The Kill Bill films are poorly paced and there are no limits on the abilities of the main character. She always comes up with a more ridiculous or violent way to kill someone at the last moment, and it makes it hard to identify with her as a victim, which is a core element of the revenge flick. I understand he's referencing samurai films and spaghetti Westerns. That doesn't mean the movie is good, it just means Tarantino has seen a lot of other movies.Theokhoth

It's not exactly like she should be allowed to die. :| I think the whole "getting shot in the head on her wedding day and being completely separated from her daughter for the first four years of her life after her friends and fiance are murdered" deal that is present throughout the movie kinda helps with identifying with her as a victim. And, hell, she gets shot at and buried alive in the second one. She has to kill the people she's going after because that's her objective (though she never kills two of them, and one dies from someone else).

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="savebattery"]Both are awful, except the music. I hate how people think the fact that Tarantino making homages and references to other films makes him a clever filmmaker. It doesn't. Good movies need a good plot and character development. The Kill Bill films are poorly paced and there are no limits on the abilities of the main character. She always comes up with a more ridiculous or violent way to kill someone at the last moment, and it makes it hard to identify with her as a victim, which is a core element of the revenge flick. I understand he's referencing samurai films and spaghetti Westerns. That doesn't mean the movie is good, it just means Tarantino has seen a lot of other movies.savebattery

It's not exactly like she should be allowed to die. :| I think the whole "getting shot in the head on her wedding day and being completely separated from her daughter for the first four years of her life after her friends and fiance are murdered" deal that is present throughout the movie kinda helps with identifying with her as a victim. And, hell, she gets shot at and buried alive in the second one. She has to kill the people she's going after because that's her objective (though she never kills two of them, and one dies from someone else).

She's an unstoppable killing machine because she was trained to be that way for years before was ever in a coma; she's an assassin. :|

Kill Bill flicks are my favorite.

[QUOTE="savebattery"]Of course I understand them. They're simply not good. Pulp Fiction was a great movie, but ever since then Tarantino thinks he craps gold.BiancaDK

Well, reading your reasons as to why the movie sucked, i can only conclude that you don´t understand what tarantino had in mind when he decided to make the kill bills.

Secondly, if they were not good, how come people generally like them?

Thirdly, what does tarantinos inflated ego have to do with anything?

[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

It's not exactly like she should be allowed to die. :| I think the whole "getting shot in the head on her wedding day and being completely separated from her daughter for the first four years of her life after her friends and fiance are murdered" deal that is present throughout the movie kinda helps with identifying with her as a victim. And, hell, she gets shot at and buried alive in the second one. She has to kill the people she's going after because that's her objective (though she never kills two of them, and one dies from someone else).

Theokhoth

She's an unstoppable killing machine because she was trained to be that way for years before was ever in a coma; she's an assassin. :|

See, that's my point. You have this backstory wherein so many awful things happen to her, then she just wakes up one day and is an unstoppable killing machine. Then she gets her ass kicked for an entire fight, then wins in the end with something increasingly more ridiculous. It's like watching the later episodes of Dragonball Z.savebattery

She's an unstoppable killing machine because she was trained to be that way for years before was ever in a coma; she's an assassin. :|

That's hilarious, right there. You're defending a film you don't understand, then telling me to "read up" when I make valid points.savebattery

And now you´re just being infantile in behaviour. ^_^

He picks a dead movie genre and makes a tribute to it, but his character development and plots are terrible.savebattery

It was only dead till he revived it. I suppose it's like watching Jackie Brown without never having seen Foxy Brown. Of course you not going to understand it's deeper meaning. You should try watching Master of the Flying Guillotinethen watch the Kill Bill movies. Maybe then you might be able to understand them better.

[QUOTE="savebattery"]That's hilarious, right there. You're defending a film you don't understand, then telling me to "read up" when I make valid points.BiancaDK

And now you´re just being infantile in behaviour. ^_^

[QUOTE="savebattery"]He picks a dead movie genre and makes a tribute to it, but his character development and plots are terrible.MentatAssassin

It was only dead till he revived it. I suppose it's like watching Jackie Brown without never having seen Foxy Brown. Of course you not going to understand it's deeper meaning. You should try watching Master of the Flying Guillotinethen watch the Kill Bill movies. Maybe then you might be able to understand them better.

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]

[QUOTE="savebattery"]That's hilarious, right there. You're defending a film you don't understand, then telling me to "read up" when I make valid points.savebattery

And now you´re just being infantile in behaviour. ^_^

[QUOTE="savebattery"]Both are awful, except the music. I hate how people think the fact that Tarantino making homages and references to other films makes him a clever filmmaker. It doesn't. Good movies need a good plot and character development. The Kill Bill films are poorly paced and there are no limits on the abilities of the main character. She always comes up with a more ridiculous or violent way to kill someone at the last moment, and it makes it hard to identify with her as a victim, which is a core element of the revenge flick. I understand he's referencing samurai films and spaghetti Westerns. That doesn't mean the movie is good, it just means Tarantino has seen a lot of other movies.lolwotrickroll

[QUOTE="MentatAssassin"]

[QUOTE="savebattery"]He picks a dead movie genre and makes a tribute to it, but his character development and plots are terrible.savebattery

It was only dead till he revived it. I suppose it's like watching Jackie Brown without never having seen Foxy Brown. Of course you not going to understand it's deeper meaning. You should try watching Master of the Flying Guillotinethen watch the Kill Bill movies. Maybe then you might be able to understand them better.

In that case I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I was just a bit worried when you called them "dead movie genres".

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="savebattery"] See, that's my point. You have this backstory wherein so many awful things happen to her, then she just wakes up one day and is an unstoppable killing machine. Then she gets her ass kicked for an entire fight, then wins in the end with something increasingly more ridiculous. It's like watching the later episodes of Dragonball Z.savebattery

She's an unstoppable killing machine because she was trained to be that way for years before was ever in a coma; she's an assassin. :|

. . .Unless she was battling other unstoppable killing machines, namely ones that she worked with in her assassin days.

[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="BiancaDK"]

And now you´re just being infantile in behaviour. ^_^

BiancaDK

[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="MentatAssassin"]

It was only dead till he revived it. I suppose it's like watching Jackie Brown without never having seen Foxy Brown. Of course you not going to understand it's deeper meaning. You should try watching Master of the Flying Guillotinethen watch the Kill Bill movies. Maybe then you might be able to understand them better.

MentatAssassin

In that case I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I was just a bit worried when you called them "dead movie genres".

[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

She's an unstoppable killing machine because she was trained to be that way for years before was ever in a coma; she's an assassin. :|

Theokhoth

. . .Unless she was battling other unstoppable killing machines, namely ones that she worked with in her assassin days.

How am I supposed to feel sorry for someone who can do five backflips, cut off ym head, and flush it down the toilet?savebattery

Oh that ones easy. It's called suspension of disbelief. Movie makers ask that you do it all the time.;)

[QUOTE="lolwotrickroll"][QUOTE="savebattery"]Both are awful, except the music. I hate how people think the fact that Tarantino making homages and references to other films makes him a clever filmmaker. It doesn't. Good movies need a good plot and character development. The Kill Bill films are poorly paced and there are no limits on the abilities of the main character. She always comes up with a more ridiculous or violent way to kill someone at the last moment, and it makes it hard to identify with her as a victim, which is a core element of the revenge flick. I understand he's referencing samurai films and spaghetti Westerns. That doesn't mean the movie is good, it just means Tarantino has seen a lot of other movies.savebattery

You haven't explained how I'm wrong, though. You contested one of my points without anything to back it up. Now you're trying to paint me as the one being petty, and it doesn't work that way. This isn't about me "being infantile" or "trying to win". This is about me bringing up legitimate faults with a movie, and you coming to the defense of said movie without and knowledge of the subject at hand.savebattery

You´re not bringing up any legitimate faults, tho ^o^

And you´re still just assuming i have no knowledge regarding the subject at hand, simply based on the notion that i´m not willing to describe why you are wrong in a lengthy comment.

Like i said, go read up on it, you might learn something.

I liked Kill Bill Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 equally.

[QUOTE="savebattery"]How am I supposed to feel sorry for someone who can do five backflips, cut off ym head, and flush it down the toilet?MentatAssassin

Oh that ones easy. It's called suspension of disbelief. Movie makers ask that you do it all the time.;)

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="savebattery"] Yes, but an unstoppable killing machine wouldn't be losing 90% of a fight before pulling out a victory in the end. And an unstoppable killing machine wouldn't be so vulnerable in the first place. It's insulting to the viewer's intelligence.savebattery

. . .Unless she was battling other unstoppable killing machines, namely ones that she worked with in her assassin days.

So you've basically moved the goalpost three times with this. . .I think you're just trying to find problems. :?

[QUOTE="savebattery"]You haven't explained how I'm wrong, though. You contested one of my points without anything to back it up. Now you're trying to paint me as the one being petty, and it doesn't work that way. This isn't about me "being infantile" or "trying to win". This is about me bringing up legitimate faults with a movie, and you coming to the defense of said movie without and knowledge of the subject at hand.BiancaDK

You´re not bringing up any legitimate faults, tho ^o^

And you´re still just assuming i have no knowledge regarding the subject at hand, simply based on the notion that i´m not willing to describe why you are wrong in a lengthy comment.

Like i said, go read up on it, you might learn something.

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]

[QUOTE="savebattery"]You haven't explained how I'm wrong, though. You contested one of my points without anything to back it up. Now you're trying to paint me as the one being petty, and it doesn't work that way. This isn't about me "being infantile" or "trying to win". This is about me bringing up legitimate faults with a movie, and you coming to the defense of said movie without and knowledge of the subject at hand.savebattery

You´re not bringing up any legitimate faults, tho ^o^

And you´re still just assuming i have no knowledge regarding the subject at hand, simply based on the notion that i´m not willing to describe why you are wrong in a lengthy comment.

Like i said, go read up on it, you might learn something.

You haven't explained how I'm wrong, though. You contested one of my points without anything to back it up. Now you're trying to paint me as the one being petty, and it doesn't work that way. This isn't about me "being infantile" or "trying to win". This is about me bringing up legitimate faults with a movie, and you coming to the defense of said movie without and knowledge of the subject at hand.savebattery

You´re not bringing up any legitimate faults, tho ^o^

And you´re still just assuming i have no knowledge regarding the subject at hand, simply based on the notion that i´m not willing to describe why you are wrong in a lengthy comment.

Like i said, go read up on it, you might learn something.

Kill Bill Vol. 1 was more entertaining. On a bad day, Vol. 2 is a snoozefest.