Leave Iraq and focus on Afghanistan or what

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#1 delol
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nine american soldiers were dead in a Taliban attack ( yes those guys that support Bin Laden ) in Afghanistan IMO is time to stop the hostilities in Iraq the menace towards Iran and put the GI were they are really needed . Opinions please
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#2 Engrish_Major
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Agree.
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#3 Shenmue_Jehuty
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I have a better idea, how about we leave Iraq, Afghanistan, all of our military bases around the world. I think we need to stop running our world empire, and cut military spending substantially.
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#4 Video_Game_King
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Why did we leave Afghanistan in the first place? That war actually had some sort of purpose: get Bin Laden. Now we're stuck in a quagmire of a war that not many people like. Great.
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#5 Vexx88
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How about we leave the Middle east alone O.o
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#6 xSIZEMATTER
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Or we all could get naked and run around screaming, baby baby one More time!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#7 zim001
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Thats kind of silly if we left Iraq it would collapse in 6 months to a year then wed be have to go back and start over.

Afganistan can be controlled by a much smaller force the general population is sparce and the battlefield is wide open with little cover we could use more troops there but maybe just 1 brigade of marines should do it no need to empty Iraq

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Why did we leave Afghanistan in the first place? That war actually had some sort of purpose: get Bin Laden. Now we're stuck in a quagmire of a war that not many people like. Great.Video_Game_King
That's a terrible idea.
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#9 cold_skull
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Blow it all up! Its quick, easy and leaves no messes!

idk really tho lol

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Rather unfortunately the Taliban will always exist and will probably assume power in Afghanistan as soon as the foreign troops leave. Iraq could implode on itself if the troops leave there, although they shouldn;t have been there in the first place.

Anyway in short I think people have to make the best of a bad situation. It would be difficult to leave one situation over another because ultimately the one that is left alone will have a lot of problems.

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[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]Why did we leave Afghanistan in the first place? That war actually had some sort of purpose: get Bin Laden. Now we're stuck in a quagmire of a war that not many people like. Great.cpo335
That's a terrible idea.

I didn't suggest any ideas. What did I say that suggested ideas? I said "getting Bin Laden: good, Iraq: bad". That was the gist of what I said, to clear up confusion.

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#12 Norg
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i say invade the tribal region of pakistan and invade Iran its the only thing left 2 do LOL

then invade parts of Africa

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#13 Mr_sprinkles
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I have a better idea, how about we leave Iraq, Afghanistan, all of our military bases around the world. I think we need to stop running our world empire, and cut military spending substantially.Shenmue_Jehuty
Now where would be the fun in that?
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#14 delol
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[QUOTE="Vexx88"]How about we leave the Middle east alone O.o[/QUOTE Chaos that is why if americans leave ME then it will be the chaos a possibly the seeds of a new world war other answer suitable we spend 25% of the oil production so if we want oil we can not leave the place were are the biggest oil reserves
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#15 cpo335
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[QUOTE="cpo335"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]Why did we leave Afghanistan in the first place? That war actually had some sort of purpose: get Bin Laden. Now we're stuck in a quagmire of a war that not many people like. Great.Video_Game_King

That's a terrible idea.

I didn't suggest any ideas. What did I say that suggested ideas? I said "getting Bin Laden: good, Iraq: bad". That was the gist of what I said, to clear up confusion.

IOh crap, sorry. I didn't mean to quote you. I meant to quote the person who said cut military spending, remove all overseas bases, etc.
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#16 fat_rob
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We are succeeding in Iraq (surprisingly). We should stay the course and finish the job and not have the same type of premature pullout that caused Afghanistan to fail. After we are down with Iraq (with the pace of current progress probably won't be longer than the next president's term) then we can focus our full attention to Afghanistan. ATM the president may start suggesting a reduction of troops (in Iraq) down to pre-surge levels...those surge troops need to be directly sent to Afghanistan to help with that country. If we completely withdraw from Iraq now...I think we will be making a huge mistake...
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#17 Norg
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I have a better idea, how about we leave Iraq, Afghanistan, all of our military bases around the world. I think we need to stop running our world empire, and cut military spending substantially.Shenmue_Jehuty

I think that would be a bad idea because if we do that alot of innocent people will die people that are depending on us to protect them and and give them Nato like aid

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#18 Mr_sprinkles
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i say invade the tribal region of pakistan and invade Iran its the only thing left 2 do LOL

then invade parts of Africa

Norg

then Europe

and then THE WORLD!

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#19 zim001
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I have a better idea, how about we leave Iraq, Afghanistan, all of our military bases around the world. I think we need to stop running our world empire, and cut military spending substantially.Shenmue_Jehuty

Without the threat of America and its Nato allies the world would be in chaos within 10 years for example look at a place that America and Nato refuse to goor get embroiled Sub-Saharahn and central Africa I don't like it but If we retreat behind our borders theyrel y be some tyranical empire knocking on our door in a decade or so that we'll have to fight because we never stopped them in the begining

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#20 cpo335
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I have a better idea, how about we leave Iraq, Afghanistan, all of our military bases around the world. I think we need to stop running our world empire, and cut military spending substantially.Shenmue_Jehuty
That's a terrible idea. There is no Empire.
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#21 delol
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[QUOTE="Norg"]

i say invade the tribal region of pakistan and invade Iran its the only thing left 2 do LOL

then invade parts of Africa

Mr_sprinkles

then Europe

and then THE WORLD!

[/QUOTE Beware martians you will be next AH!AH! This thread is transformed in an imperialist low budget Hollywood script
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I have a better idea, how about we leave Iraq, Afghanistan, all of our military bases around the world. I think we need to stop running our world empire, and cut military spending substantially.Shenmue_Jehuty

1) There is no empire

2) Osama Bin Laden must be found and brought to trial.

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#23 delol
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[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]I have a better idea, how about we leave Iraq, Afghanistan, all of our military bases around the world. I think we need to stop running our world empire, and cut military spending substantially.InterpolWilco

1) There is no empire That is true it seems the USA dont have the balls to it

2) Osama Bin Laden must be found and brought to trial. AH! God! The man is a CIA agent undercover

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#24 jer_1
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Thats kind of silly if we left Iraq it would collapse in 6 months to a year then wed be have to go back and start over.

Afganistan can be controlled by a much smaller force the general population is sparce and the battlefield is wide open with little cover we could use more troops there but maybe just 1 brigade of marines should do it no need to empty Iraq

zim001

I dont buy what you say about Iraq. These people just want America OUT of their country. What we have done would be akin to China brute forcing their way into the states, killing Bush (which i wouldnt complain about) and then staying for years to destroy their infrastructure and economy. Way to go neocons, sure proves how worthwhile a pre-emptive attack is under your guidance.

All we can really do at this point, as citizens, is hope and ***** to congress and the presidency to leave Iran alone and NOT attack them. If this happens we should all be prepared to pay $10+ per gallon of gas, and this is just the low side for prices. This kind of action may well take gas prices up to $15 a gallon, possibly higher in the long term.

Afghanistan was and is the only place we should have focused the military, and what the hell has happened to DIPLOMACY?!

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#25 Mr_sprinkles
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[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]I have a better idea, how about we leave Iraq, Afghanistan, all of our military bases around the world. I think we need to stop running our world empire, and cut military spending substantially.cpo335
That's a terrible idea. There is no Empire.

Setting up 50 permanent US military bases in iraq, the US officials have 'negotiated' a deal making the US forces exempt from iraq law or any kind of accountability, and allowing military operations to be conducted without need of permission from or warning to the iraqi government.

The brits did fairly similar things. It was imperialism then, what's different now?

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#26 CruxisXIII
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lets go bomb Iran. That will help out the cause.
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#27 delol
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[QUOTE="cpo335"][QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]I have a better idea, how about we leave Iraq, Afghanistan, all of our military bases around the world. I think we need to stop running our world empire, and cut military spending substantially.Mr_sprinkles

That's a terrible idea. There is no Empire.

Setting up 50 permanent US military bases in iraq, the US officials have 'negotiated' a deal making the US forces exempt from iraq law or any kind of accountability, and allowing military operations to be conducted without need of permission from or warning to the iraqi government.

The brits did fairly similar things. It was imperialism then, what's different now?

[/QUOTE IT IS -The Pax Americana-