Let me tell you why sexual pleasure is WRONG. :)

We all know that everyone gets those urges. It's in you, it's only human. We can't control it easily. But here's the thing: sex is meant for reproduction. Do you know why it is pleasuring? Let me tell you. Animals in the wild don't really understand sex, thus the way they know to reproduce is to get a sexual urge, and they fulfill this urge by having sex with another animal. So obviously, the pleasuring sensation is part of our nature so we know to reproduce. When one decides to have sex for the reason of pleasure, this is going against the whole reason for the sensation. Pleasuring yourself sexually is like eating a pill with a nice flavor for the purpose of the tasty flavor. The pill is meant to fight illness, not to pleasure your taste buds!

And honestly, if someone says they "love" a person, thus they want to have sexual contact with that person, how is pleasuring each other "love"? Can't you show love through kind deeds? How are you loving the person when you're using them as your source of physical pleasure? People aren't like toys that you can just have such an intimate fun with. Love is shown through kind deeds and sacrifices for the person. It's understandable that a kiss is a symbol of love, but this can lead to something more intense which can become immoral and out of control, which in no way is "love."

So anyway, animals just live their life with their nature; they eat, sleep, reproduce. On the other hand, humankind has the power of intellect. We have the ability to understand the sexual impulse and how to control it or use it at the right time. If we don't, won't we be just as animals of the wild? If one continues to pleasure him/herself, it can get out of control like a drug or addiction, and take over their mind. This is just a possibility, but still something to be concerned about.

I'm sure some of you are wondering, "Then why is eating tasty food for pleasure, or playing video games for pleasure not wrong?" The answer is moderation. With moderation with these things, and if we conrol ourselves, it's fine. Stimulating the mind with games or soothing our taste buds are healthy if we can have moderation.

In conclusion, I'm not saying that its a sin to pleasure yourself sexually, I'm saying that it isn't the reason that we've been given these urges, and that with moderation and understanding, we can see that people shouldn't be seen as sexual icons, and that we won't be taking these pleasures with us when we die. If people balance their portions of sexual pleasure, it will help develop a cleaner mind. If people begin to understand the sexual impulse and learn to harness it, we will become more mature and less like non-intellectual animals. Sex is a big thing these days, actually it's always been a big thing. :P But if we concentrat a lttle less on it (and I don't mean just stop right now) and focus more on developing our qualities. I know that everyone does this already, but I'll say it anyway. :P

Finally, I want you all to know that I respect your opinions and will read everything. Even if you don't believe in anything I said, atleast consider it? :P The sexual impulse is understandable and the urges are alright, everything is your decision, I just want to explain what I thought.

Please note that I'm not trying to make anyone look stupid or trying to prove anyone wrong, I'm simply trying to share some of my knowledge. You don't have to prove me wrong with your reply, you can look at the positives of my thread too :D :D

Tell me what you thought of this :)

i just like getting laidDecko5

[QUOTE="Decko5"]i just like getting laidBoba_Fett_3710

I'm not saying that its a sin to pleasure yourself sexuallyamirbrandon

[QUOTE="amirbrandon"]I'm not saying that its a sin to pleasure yourself sexuallyFunky_Llama

We all know that everyone gets those urges. It's in you, it's only human. We can't control it easily. But here's the thing: sex is meant for reproduction. Do you know why it is pleasuring? Let me tell you. Animals in the wild don't really understand sex, thus the way they know to reproduce is to get a sexual urge, and they fulfill this urge by having sex with another animal. So obviously, the pleasuring sensation is part of our nature so we know to reproduce. When one decides to have sex for the reason of pleasure, this is going against the whole reason for the sensation. Pleasuring yourself sexually is like eating a pill with a nice flavor for the purpose of the tasty flavor. The pill is meant to fight illness, not to pleasure your taste buds!

And honestly, if someone says they "love" a person, thus they want to have sexual contact with that person, how is pleasuring each other "love"? Can't you show love through kind deeds? How are you loving the person when you're using them as your source of physical pleasure? People aren't like toys that you can just have such an intimate fun with. Love is shown through kind deeds and sacrifices for the person. It's understandable that a kiss is a symbol of love, but this can lead to something more intense which can become immoral and out of control, which in no way is "love."

So anyway, animals just live their life with their nature; they eat, sleep, reproduce. On the other hand, humankind has the power of intellect. We have the ability to understand the sexual impulse and how to control it or use it at the right time. If we don't, won't we be just as animals of the wild? If one continues to pleasure him/herself, it can get out of control like a drug or addiction, and take over their mind. This is just a possibility, but still something to be concerned about.

I'm sure some of you are wondering, "Then why is eating tasty food for pleasure, or playing video games for pleasure not wrong?" The answer is moderation. With moderation with these things, and if we conrol ourselves, it's fine. Stimulating the mind with games or soothing our taste buds are healthy if we can have moderation.

In conclusion, I'm not saying that its a sin to pleasure yourself sexually, I'm saying that it isn't the reason that we've been given these urges, and that with moderation and understanding, we can see that people shouldn't be seen as sexual icons, and that we won't be taking these pleasures with us when we die. If people balance their portions of sexual pleasure, it will help develop a cleaner mind. If people begin to understand the sexual impulse and learn to harness it, we will become more mature and less like non-intellectual animals.

Tell me what you thought of this :)

amirbrandon

So if stuffing your intestines with food for pleasure is all right in moderation, isn't sex solely for pleasure also okay if it's done in moderation?

there is no god, so you might as well do as much screwing as possible before you go underground.Cloud_Insurance

We all know that everyone gets those urges. It's in you, it's only human. We can't control it easily. But here's the thing: sex is meant for reproduction. Do you know why it is pleasuring? Let me tell you. Animals in the wild don't really understand sex, thus the way they know to reproduce is to get a sexual urge, and they fulfill this urge by having sex with another animal. So obviously, the pleasuring sensation is part of our nature so we know to reproduce. When one decides to have sex for the reason of pleasure, this is going against the whole reason for the sensation. Pleasuring yourself sexually is like eating a pill with a nice flavor for the purpose of the tasty flavor. The pill is meant to fight illness, not to pleasure your taste buds!

And honestly, if someone says they "love" a person, thus they want to have sexual contact with that person, how is pleasuring each other "love"? Can't you show love through kind deeds? How are you loving the person when you're using them as your source of physical pleasure? People aren't like toys that you can just have such an intimate fun with. Love is shown through kind deeds and sacrifices for the person. It's understandable that a kiss is a symbol of love, but this can lead to something more intense which can become immoral and out of control, which in no way is "love."

So anyway, animals just live their life with their nature; they eat, sleep, reproduce. On the other hand, humankind has the power of intellect. We have the ability to understand the sexual impulse and how to control it or use it at the right time. If we don't, won't we be just as animals of the wild? If one continues to pleasure him/herself, it can get out of control like a drug or addiction, and take over their mind. This is just a possibility, but still something to be concerned about.

I'm sure some of you are wondering, "Then why is eating tasty food for pleasure, or playing video games for pleasure not wrong?" The answer is moderation. With moderation with these things, and if we conrol ourselves, it's fine. Stimulating the mind with games or soothing our taste buds are healthy if we can have moderation.

In conclusion, I'm not saying that its a sin to pleasure yourself sexually, I'm saying that it isn't the reason that we've been given these urges, and that with moderation and understanding, we can see that people shouldn't be seen as sexual icons, and that we won't be taking these pleasures with us when we die. If people balance their portions of sexual pleasure, it will help develop a cleaner mind. If people begin to understand the sexual impulse and learn to harness it, we will become more mature and less like non-intellectual animals.

Tell me what you thought of this :)

amirbrandon

We all know that everyone gets those urges. It's in you, it's only human.

amirbrandon

Wrong, some people do not. Most of them probably being women.

We all know that everyone gets those urges. It's in you, it's only human. We can't control it easily. But here's the thing: sex is meant for reproduction. Do you know why it is pleasuring? Let me tell you. Animals in the wild don't really understand sex, thus the way they know to reproduce is to get a sexual urge, and they fulfill this urge by having sex with another animal. So obviously, the pleasuring sensation is part of our nature so we know to reproduce. When one decides to have sex for the reason of pleasure, this is going against the whole reason for the sensation. Pleasuring yourself sexually is like eating a pill with a nice flavor for the purpose of the tasty flavor. The pill is meant to fight illness, not to pleasure your taste buds!

And honestly, if someone says they "love" a person, thus they want to have sexual contact with that person, how is pleasuring each other "love"? Can't you show love through kind deeds? How are you loving the person when you're using them as your source of physical pleasure? People aren't like toys that you can just have such an intimate fun with. Love is shown through kind deeds and sacrifices for the person. It's understandable that a kiss is a symbol of love, but this can lead to something more intense which can become immoral and out of control, which in no way is "love."

So anyway, animals just live their life with their nature; they eat, sleep, reproduce. On the other hand, humankind has the power of intellect. We have the ability to understand the sexual impulse and how to control it or use it at the right time. If we don't, won't we be just as animals of the wild? If one continues to pleasure him/herself, it can get out of control like a drug or addiction, and take over their mind. This is just a possibility, but still something to be concerned about.

I'm sure some of you are wondering, "Then why is eating tasty food for pleasure, or playing video games for pleasure not wrong?" The answer is moderation. With moderation with these things, and if we conrol ourselves, it's fine. Stimulating the mind with games or soothing our taste buds are healthy if we can have moderation.

In conclusion, I'm not saying that its a sin to pleasure yourself sexually, I'm saying that it isn't the reason that we've been given these urges, and that with moderation and understanding, we can see that people shouldn't be seen as sexual icons, and that we won't be taking these pleasures with us when we die. If people balance their portions of sexual pleasure, it will help develop a cleaner mind. If people begin to understand the sexual impulse and learn to harness it, we will become more mature and less like non-intellectual animals.

Tell me what you thought of this :)

So if stuffing your intestines with food for pleasure is all right in moderation, isn't sex solely for pleasure also okay if it's done in moderation?

err just about all human desires, and all human drive, is connected to thier basic instincts.

And we as animals we do whatever we can to cover those needs. It is nature, it is the buildingblocks of all life.

Only through the invention of society are we met with such ideas as "holding back" and that is for different reasons, ie. church sanctions, and laws.

Those are unnatural, altho they may benefit the creation and maintenance of society.

Now considering that the population of the western world is declining (not all woman gets the 2,3 children to uphold todays numbers) So generally we do NOT need to hold back per say.

Where food and land is limited, it is a good way of making ballance, but in the west?

So you sereously can't see the difference in intensity with sex compared to eating? And I never said stuffing your intestines, if you do that, then I recommend you stop... :| I also said sex should be done in moderation and should slowly decrease in your life schedule. It's not like someone's going to just stop immideately.amirbrandon

No, no, no. That is the absolute worst advice you can give a man.

If you slow down and take long breaks in between your sexual encounters, you run the very dangerous and very real risk of "backing up", which can lead to a... shall we say, lackluster performance the next time you do get your extracirricular swerve on.

Do it often.

[QUOTE="amirbrandon"]

We all know that everyone gets those urges. It's in you, it's only human.

dmc333

Wrong, some people do not. Most of them probably being women.

[QUOTE="amirbrandon"] So you sereously can't see the difference in intensity with sex compared to eating? And I never said stuffing your intestines, if you do that, then I recommend you stop... :| I also said sex should be done in moderation and should slowly decrease in your life schedule. It's not like someone's going to just stop immideately.Boba_Fett_3710

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"][QUOTE="amirbrandon"] So you sereously can't see the difference in intensity with sex compared to eating? And I never said stuffing your intestines, if you do that, then I recommend you stop... :| I also said sex should be done in moderation and should slowly decrease in your life schedule. It's not like someone's going to just stop immideately.amirbrandon

[QUOTE="vlin1108"][QUOTE="amirbrandon"]

We all know that everyone gets those urges. It's in you, it's only human. We can't control it easily. But here's the thing: sex is meant for reproduction. Do you know why it is pleasuring? Let me tell you. Animals in the wild don't really understand sex, thus the way they know to reproduce is to get a sexual urge, and they fulfill this urge by having sex with another animal. So obviously, the pleasuring sensation is part of our nature so we know to reproduce. When one decides to have sex for the reason of pleasure, this is going against the whole reason for the sensation. Pleasuring yourself sexually is like eating a pill with a nice flavor for the purpose of the tasty flavor. The pill is meant to fight illness, not to pleasure your taste buds!

And honestly, if someone says they "love" a person, thus they want to have sexual contact with that person, how is pleasuring each other "love"? Can't you show love through kind deeds? How are you loving the person when you're using them as your source of physical pleasure? People aren't like toys that you can just have such an intimate fun with. Love is shown through kind deeds and sacrifices for the person. It's understandable that a kiss is a symbol of love, but this can lead to something more intense which can become immoral and out of control, which in no way is "love."

So anyway, animals just live their life with their nature; they eat, sleep, reproduce. On the other hand, humankind has the power of intellect. We have the ability to understand the sexual impulse and how to control it or use it at the right time. If we don't, won't we be just as animals of the wild? If one continues to pleasure him/herself, it can get out of control like a drug or addiction, and take over their mind. This is just a possibility, but still something to be concerned about.

I'm sure some of you are wondering, "Then why is eating tasty food for pleasure, or playing video games for pleasure not wrong?" The answer is moderation. With moderation with these things, and if we conrol ourselves, it's fine. Stimulating the mind with games or soothing our taste buds are healthy if we can have moderation.

In conclusion, I'm not saying that its a sin to pleasure yourself sexually, I'm saying that it isn't the reason that we've been given these urges, and that with moderation and understanding, we can see that people shouldn't be seen as sexual icons, and that we won't be taking these pleasures with us when we die. If people balance their portions of sexual pleasure, it will help develop a cleaner mind. If people begin to understand the sexual impulse and learn to harness it, we will become more mature and less like non-intellectual animals.

Tell me what you thought of this :)

amirbrandon

So if stuffing your intestines with food for pleasure is all right in moderation, isn't sex solely for pleasure also okay if it's done in moderation?

No, as a matter of fact, I can't. I love chocolate milk; I just can't get enough of that stuff.

But this is about discussing moral principles and not the intensity of immoral acts, or mistakes. My question was simple. Is having sex for pleasure in moderation wrong? Or is it just excessive sex that is wrong?

i just like getting laidDecko5

My thoughts exactly.

I will pleasure myself and whoever else wants some at any given time. Diablo112688

DUDE... I'm 15 :|amirbrandon

Welcome to evolutionary psychology. Desires such as sexual pleasure and hunger may be "fradulent" to some extent but just because they are natural does not necessarily mean that they are wrong. Have a look at this if you're interested. http://www.psych.ucsb.edu/research/cep/primer.htmldomatron23

I didn't say that the desires are wrong, I'm saying the intimate actions towards those desires are wrong. :)amirbrandon

[QUOTE="amirbrandon"] DUDE... I'm 15 :|Boba_Fett_3710

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="amirbrandon"]I'm not saying that its a sin to pleasure yourself sexuallyamirbrandon

[QUOTE="amirbrandon"]I didn't say that the desires are wrong, I'm saying the intimate actions towards those desires are wrong. :)Jandurin

We all know that everyone gets those urges. It's in you, it's only human. We can't control it easily. But here's the thing: sex is meant for reproduction. Do you know why it is pleasuring? Let me tell you. Animals in the wild don't really understand sex, thus the way they know to reproduce is to get a sexual urge, and they fulfill this urge by having sex with another animal. So obviously, the pleasuring sensation is part of our nature so we know to reproduce. When one decides to have sex for the reason of pleasure, this is going against the whole reason for the sensation. Pleasuring yourself sexually is like eating a pill with a nice flavor for the purpose of the tasty flavor. The pill is meant to fight illness, not to pleasure your taste buds!

And honestly, if someone says they "love" a person, thus they want to have sexual contact with that person, how is pleasuring each other "love"? Can't you show love through kind deeds? How are you loving the person when you're using them as your source of physical pleasure? People aren't like toys that you can just have such an intimate fun with. Love is shown through kind deeds and sacrifices for the person. It's understandable that a kiss is a symbol of love, but this can lead to something more intense which can become immoral and out of control, which in no way is "love."

Immoral? I think not, in fact I think quite the opposite is true. When you are being intimate with someone, the idea is not to pleasure yourself, it's to pleasure your partner, which I think is simply amazing. The fact that you can give someone that, I think is one of the most powerful symbols of affection. And I'm not alone on this, believe it or not, many consider physical attraction a third of what makes love, and physical interaction another third, leaving only one third for intellect. And I actually read that on a pamphlet that my church handed to me.

So anyway, animals just live their life with their nature; they eat, sleep, reproduce. On the other hand, humankind has the power of intellect. We have the ability to understand the sexual impulse and how to control it or use it at the right time. If we don't, won't we be just as animals of the wild? If one continues to pleasure him/herself, it can get out of control like a drug or addiction, and take over their mind. This is just a possibility, but still something to be concerned about.

This idea that self pleasing is wrong, or immoral is a bad one, and it leads to some pretty bad feelings. Someone should not have to feel guilt, or dirty, for doing what their natural instincts are telling them to do. You are right that we are more intellectial, which I think means we should realize like I said in my first paragraph that the power to give someone that is even greater, then anything anyone could say is wrong about sexualness.

I'm sure some of you are wondering, "Then why is eating tasty food for pleasure, or playing video games for pleasure not wrong?" The answer is moderation. With moderation with these things, and if we control ourselves, it's fine. Stimulating the mind with games or soothing our taste buds are healthy if we can have moderation.

It is a medical fact that sexualness is healthy, and sexual pleasure is not WRONG, by any means.

In conclusion, I'm not saying that its a sin to pleasure yourself sexually, I'm saying that it isn't the reason that we've been given these urges, and that with moderation and understanding, we can see that people shouldn't be seen as sexual icons, and that we won't be taking these pleasures with us when we die. If people balance their portions of sexual pleasure, it will help develop a cleaner mind. If people begin to understand the sexual impulse and learn to harness it, we will become more mature and less like non-intellectual animals.

I agree that people should not be seen as sexual icons, but honestly, if they make themselves out to be, it is no one's fault but their own. And what exactly do you mean 'cleaner', there is nothing dirty about sex, that's the wrong idea. And just so you know, many animals live a lot better than we do, there are plenty of things that humans are responsible for that have nothing to do with sex. War, for example, is completely ludicrous. We kill for no reason, when an animal kills it's to survive and to survive alone.

Tell me what you thought of this :)

amirbrandon

Well, I disagree with you in a lot of aspecs, so I'm going to break them down one by one. And I'll do this in red, inside your post.

Edit: That being said, you put up a good arguement, and in no way did I mean any disrespect, I just simply disagree.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="amirbrandon"]I didn't say that the desires are wrong, I'm saying the intimate actions towards those desires are wrong. :)amirbrandon

Pleasuring yourself sexually is like eating a pill with a nice flavor for the purpose of the tasty flavor. The pill is meant to fight illness, not to pleasure your taste buds!

Except it doesn't actually satisfy your hunger. People have sexual desires, and seeing as how we're living longer and healthier people are going to need to satisfy them even if they aren't reproducing.

And honestly, if someone says they "love" a person, thus they want to have sexual contact with that person, how is pleasuring each other "love"? Can't you show love through kind deeds? How are you loving the person when you're using them as your source of physical pleasure? People aren't like toys that you can just have such an intimate fun with. Love is shown through kind deeds and sacrifices for the person. It's understandable that a kiss is a symbol of love, but this can lead to something more intense which can become immoral and out of control, which in no way is "love."

amirbrandon

Doing kind deeds though is something you can do with anyone though. Sex is far more personal than that.

Also, I don't see how kissing is exempt from this logic but sex isn't. Kissing is usually just to satisfy sexual pleasure too, but somehow it's okay?

So anyway, animals just live their life with their nature; they eat, sleep, reproduce. On the other hand, humankind has the power of intellect. We have the ability to understand the sexual impulse and how to control it or use it at the right time. If we don't, won't we be just as animals of the wild?

amirbrandon

Ironically, this is just like an advertisement campaign for a condom company. :D

If one continues to pleasure him/herself, it can get out of control like a drug or addiction, and take over their mind. This is just a possibility, but still something to be concerned about.

I'm sure some of you are wondering, "Then why is eating tasty food for pleasure, or playing video games for pleasure not wrong?" The answer is moderation. With moderation with these things, and if we conrol ourselves, it's fine. Stimulating the mind with games or soothing our taste buds are healthy if we can have moderation.

amirbrandon

Everything needs to be in moderation, this is no different.

[QUOTE="amirbrandon"]I didn't say that the desires are wrong, I'm saying the intimate actions towards those desires are wrong. :)Jandurin

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"][QUOTE="amirbrandon"] DUDE... I'm 15 :|amirbrandon

i see your point tc,

but come back in a few years, when you grow some hairs and started drinking beers.

^^Quote from Kool G Rapp. sorry , i couldn't resist.

edit: i do respect your views as a youngin but a childs innocence wears off as they get older.

[QUOTE="Diablo112688"]I will pleasure myself and whoever else wants some at any given time. Jandurin

Yes, please!

amirbrandon

[QUOTE="amirbrandon"][QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"] I think a glutton is much worst than a sexual deviant. I think you just want people to get laid less so you feel better about your own lack of sexual conquest. I'm very sexually active, practice safe sex and am happy. I'm not going to take advice from somebody who is so obviously frustrated sexually.septemberluc

[QUOTE="septemberluc"][QUOTE="amirbrandon"] DUDE... I'm 15 :|amirbrandon

[QUOTE="domatron23"]Welcome to evolutionary psychology. Desires such as sexual pleasure and hunger may be "fradulent" to some extent but just because they are natural does not necessarily mean that they are wrong. Have a look at this if you're interested. http://www.psych.ucsb.edu/research/cep/primer.htmlamirbrandon

[QUOTE="septemberluc"][QUOTE="amirbrandon"] DUDE... I'm 15 :|amirbrandon

[QUOTE="septemberluc"][QUOTE="amirbrandon"] DUDE... I'm 15 :|amirbrandon