Let me tell you why you made this topic
Because your not getting any
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I didn't read all these so this may have already been said. With your whole animal argument, you are acknowledging our evolutionary roots. Most arguments against sex are religious in nature so I just wanted to make sure you understand the implications. Additionally, the (single small part of the female external anatomy that even speaking in scientific terms is censored) serves absolutely no function beyond that of pleasure. How is the intended function of a body part somehow wrong?
You should also be aware before you get much older that males who are not regularly relieved sexually run a significantly higher risk of prostate cancer.
That body part was made so that animals could feel the sensation during sex, making them want to reproduce... That's what makes them reproduce, the urge and the pleasure. It's the animal's way of knowing to reproduce. Now humans have been given the same thing, but it's something that we have to control and it helps build character if you live a more chaste life.Let me tell you why you made this topic
Because your not getting any
ONCE again, for the hundredth time: If I made a thread about how smoking is wrong, would you say the same thing that you just said? I've never smoked before, but I still know what's wrong with it. I hope you read this.I didn't read all these so this may have already been said. With your whole animal argument, you are acknowledging our evolutionary roots. Most arguments against sex are religious in nature so I just wanted to make sure you understand the implications. Additionally, the (single small part of the female external anatomy that even speaking in scientific terms is censored) serves absolutely no function beyond that of pleasure. How is the intended function of a body part somehow wrong?
You should also be aware before you get much older that males who are not regularly relieved sexually run a significantly higher risk of prostate cancer.
That body part was made so that animals could feel the sensation during sex, making them want to reproduce... That's what makes them reproduce, the urge and the pleasure. It's the animal's way of knowing to reproduce. Now humans have been given the same thing, but it's something that we have to control and it helps build character if you live a more chaste life. Can you elaborate on what you mean by it "building character"? Self-deprivation seems more goofy than principled, unless there is an actual reason to, you know, self-deprive.[QUOTE="robobie"]ONCE again, for the hundredth time: If I made a thread about how smoking is wrong, would you say the same thing that you just said? I've never smoked before, but I still know what's wrong with it. I hope you read this.Let me tell you why you made this topic
Because your not getting any
amirbrandon
.....except sex is actually healthy
Let me tell you why you made this topic
Because your not getting any
ONCE again, for the hundredth time: If I made a thread about how smoking is wrong, would you say the same thing that you just said? I've never smoked before, but I still know what's wrong with it. I hope you read this. And there are widely replicated studies showing specific effects associated with smoking. You offer you opinion and a nebulous concept of some sort of self-improvement. I trust that you can see why your analogy is broken.Actually humans, dolphins, and a few species of apes are the only animals that have sex for pleasure, so youre WRONG...it is no natural urge all animals get.
Its a good, human urge! And amazing.
[QUOTE="Sitri_"]That body part was made so that animals could feel the sensation during sex, making them want to reproduce... That's what makes them reproduce, the urge and the pleasure. It's the animal's way of knowing to reproduce. Now humans have been given the same thing, but it's something that we have to control and it helps build character if you live a more chaste life.I didn't read all these so this may have already been said. With your whole animal argument, you are acknowledging our evolutionary roots. Most arguments against sex are religious in nature so I just wanted to make sure you understand the implications. Additionally, the (single small part of the female external anatomy that even speaking in scientific terms is censored) serves absolutely no function beyond that of pleasure. How is the intended function of a body part somehow wrong?
You should also be aware before you get much older that males who are not regularly relieved sexually run a significantly higher risk of prostate cancer.
amirbrandon
Ok you you are saying that we have evolved to the point that we can limit our pleasure, so we should?.........for no apparent reason other than what a few others will think of us.
But following your advice, if anyone ask I will say I only have sex to protect my prostate and any girls I have sex with are only trying to help me. That should do wonders for my perceived character. :roll:
Let me tell you why you made this topic
Because your not getting any
ONCE again, for the hundredth time: If I made a thread about how smoking is wrong, would you say the same thing that you just said? I've never smoked before, but I still know what's wrong with it. I hope you read this. Regular smoking is damaging to your health. Regular sex, on the other hand, is healthy for you. See the problem with your point?question
can u control what other people do? no...so why post on something like this knowing that 90% of the people who post are going to be against u?
i kno its ur opinion...and i respect that...but i dont understand why people insist on worrying about things they cannot control.
now, sex is for reproduction as well as pleasure...thats it...no debating neccessary
And the difference between us humans and most animals is that our experience of love goes deeper than just an urge to procreate. It is the emotional connecting and bonding that can make sex so pleasurable... both physically and emotionally.foxhound_foxSexual pleasure does not require love.
I would say that if this is truly human nature, than the other party is the accomplice of the "crime," not the victim, like France in the coup d'etat of 1848.And honestly, if someone says they "love" a person, thus they want to have sexual contact with that person, how is pleasuring each other "love"? Can't you show love through kind deeds? How are you loving the person when you're using them as your source of physical pleasure?
Then how do couples manage to do so?People aren't like toys that you can just have such an intimate fun with
What are 'love' and 'kindness'? On the point of sacrifices, if one is used by another for sex in a relationship, while also using the other person, are they not, in allowing themselves to be used, sacrificing for another? Maybe this is the raison de'etre for the relationship.Love is shown through kind deeds and sacrifices for the person. It's understandable that a kiss is a symbol of love, but this can lead to something more intense which can become immoral and out of control, which in no way is "love."
Good, you recognized that it is just a possibility. Then, as long as I retain control, I can **** whenever I please, right?If one continues to pleasure him/herself, it can get out of control like a drug or addiction, and take over their mind. This is just a possibility, but still something to be concerned about.
You are still making the choice --- wherefore should one be moderate about it?I'm sure some of you are wondering, "Then why is eating tasty food for pleasure, or playing video games for pleasure not wrong?" The answer is moderation. With moderation with these things, and if we conrol ourselves, it's fine.
You are projecting this too thin and opaque, over the situation and over your retina: if we base this solely on 'moderation' we are still running the risk of irresponsibility. Just because we drink something in moderation does not mean that we are being responsible or healthy.Stimulating the mind with games or soothing our taste buds are healthy if we can have moderation.
Given by who and what, when and where?In conclusion, I'm not saying that its a sin to pleasure yourself sexually, I'm saying that it isn't the reason that we've been given these urges,
Why not? With the knowledge that just because something is used in moderation does not mean that it is beneficial, we should not take your word for it.and that with moderation and understanding, we can see that people shouldn't be seen as sexual icons,
What is a cleaner mind, and how are pleasures taken with you when you die?and that we won't be taking these pleasures with us when we die. If people balance their portions of sexual pleasure, it will help develop a cleaner mind.
So we should not have sex until we are 1337 at it?If people begin to understand the sexual impulse and learn to harness it, we will become more mature and less like non-intellectual animals. Sex is a big thing these days, actually it's always been a big thing. But if we concentrat a lttle less on it (and I don't mean just stop right now) and focus more on developing our qualities. I know that everyone does this already, but I'll say it anyway.
But you just told us above that the pleasures and impulses are wrong.Finally, I want you all to know that I respect your opinions and will read everything. Even if you don't believe in anything I said, atleast consider it? The sexual impulse is understandable and the urges are alright, everything is your decision, I just want to explain what I thought.
amirbrandon
TC wrote: *cough* moderation *cough* But why by misusing the impulse for reproduction? :P remember the pill analogy I made :D
I wrote: Here's another: You should also just eat to get your stomach full and not even care to taste it, never feel pleasure out of a tasty dinner, just take it down your throat. How dare you like your food??? Also don't smile when you go to bed to rest after a hard day's work or even think to take pleasure out of clearing your head off the thoughts of a busy day. Moreover, do not in any way stretch your body to relax because lets face it: you are just doing it to feel good. what??? Feel good??!! Shame on you! :!
[QUOTE="Decko5"]i just like getting laidBoba_Fett_3710Agree.This is the fundemental flaw in his argument. If sexual urges were meant purely for reproduction, then females wouldn't have a particular organ devoted ENTIRELY for pleasure. In fact, if sex was just for reproduction we wouldn't get any pleasure out of it at all. We'd get the urge, fulfill it, and go back to picking ticks off each others backs.
[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"][QUOTE="Decko5"]i just like getting laidDigitalExileAgree.This is the fundemental flaw in his argument. If sexual urges were meant purely for reproduction, then females wouldn't have a particular organ devoted ENTIRELY for pleasure. In fact, if sex was just for reproduction we wouldn't get any pleasure out of it at all. We'd get the urge, fulfill it, and go back to picking ticks off each others backs.And why wouldn't it?
[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"]there is no god, so you might as well do as much screwing as possible before you go underground.amirbrandonEven if you believe there is no God, it doesn't mean that you should do something so incorrectly while you're living.
Who are you to say its incorrect or not? Get off your high horse, go outside and enjoy life. You're gonna look back on your life when its coming to an end and see a great big disappointment. Enjoy that.
[QUOTE="DigitalExile"][QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"] Agree.zakkroThis is the fundemental flaw in his argument. If sexual urges were meant purely for reproduction, then females wouldn't have a particular organ devoted ENTIRELY for pleasure. In fact, if sex was just for reproduction we wouldn't get any pleasure out of it at all. We'd get the urge, fulfill it, and go back to picking ticks off each others backs.And why wouldn't it? Why wouldn't what?
Let me tell you why you made this topic
Because your not getting any
ONCE again, for the hundredth time: If I made a thread about how smoking is wrong, would you say the same thing that you just said? I've never smoked before, but I still know what's wrong with it. I hope you read this. Regular smoking is damaging to your health. Regular sex, on the other hand, is healthy for you. See the problem with your point? How do you know that sex his healthy for you? It can become soemthing that controls you or becomes an addiction, that can lead to promiscuity or prostitution, and many other things. I'm not saying everyone does it, many people smoke only small amounts and not very often, and they're fine. It's when it gets out of control that it's bad. I'm not saying don't have sex, I'm saying dont overuse it and see it as something for fun.[QUOTE="zakkro"][QUOTE="DigitalExile"]This is the fundemental flaw in his argument. If sexual urges were meant purely for reproduction, then females wouldn't have a particular organ devoted ENTIRELY for pleasure. In fact, if sex was just for reproduction we wouldn't get any pleasure out of it at all. We'd get the urge, fulfill it, and go back to picking ticks off each others backs.DigitalExileAnd why wouldn't it? Why wouldn't what? I have no idea. I meant: Why would that be a flaw?
that's what blogging is for right?Please note that I'm not trying to make anyone look stupid or trying to prove anyone wrong, I'm simply trying to share some of my knowledge. You don't have to prove me wrong with your reply, you can look at the positives of my thread too :D :D
Tell me what you thought of this :)
amirbrandon
[QUOTE="DigitalExile"][QUOTE="zakkro"]And why wouldn't it? zakkroWhy wouldn't what? I have no idea. I meant: Why would that be a flaw?Well he seemed to suggest that sex should only be for reproduction, and not pleasure, but if that were the case, naturally (through creation or evolution) we'd not have any reason to get pleasure from sex, and females wouldn't have an organ purely for pleasure that is only ever used in a sexual setting.
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