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Clinton being elected doesn't mean that the Liberals policies were all being pushed through. It was way different back then anyway.

Sineps_2

"Clinton doesn't count! Only bad liberal presidents count!"

Thing is that he ended up raising taxes, so did Reagan.

Also, tax cuts = balanced budget? What?

Meh, I'm on my side.

[QUOTE="Sineps_2"][QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

"Clinton doesn't count! Only bad liberal presidents count!"

Thing is that he ended up raising taxes, so did Reagan.

Also, tax cuts = balanced budget? What?

I'm almost right down the middle, with a slight leaning toward conservative.

Conservative.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]Snipes evolved into Sineps! Sineps want's to learn imitate former user but already knows 4 moves. Would you like to delete a move?magicalclick

Come to think of it. Does Snipes1 has cute Kirby? And this one is bloody kirby?

[QUOTE="magicalclick"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]Snipes evolved into Sineps! Sineps want's to learn imitate former user but already knows 4 moves. Would you like to delete a move?Sineps_2

Come to think of it. Does Snipes1 has cute Kirby? And this one is bloody kirby?

....Not_Brick?

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]Snipes evolved into Sineps! Sineps want's to learn imitate former user but already knows 4 moves. Would you like to delete a move?magicalclick

Come to think of it. Does Snipes1 has cute Kirby? And this one is bloody kirby?

I don't think this is snipes. The real snipes wasn't that direct when I debated him.

Generally I tend to have very liberal views.

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"]Snipes evolved into Sineps! Sineps want's to learn imitate former user but already knows 4 moves. Would you like to delete a move?Former_Slacker

Come to think of it. Does Snipes1 has cute Kirby? And this one is bloody kirby?

I don't think this is snipes. The real snipes wasn't that direct when I debated him.

[QUOTE="magicalclick"]

Snipes evolved into Sineps! Sineps want's to learn imitate former user but already knows 4 moves. Would you like to delete a move?Ace6301

Come to think of it. Does Snipes1 has cute Kirby? And this one is bloody kirby?

I don't think this is snipes. The real snipes wasn't that direct when I debated him.

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[QUOTE="magicalclick"]

Come to think of it. Does Snipes1 has cute Kirby? And this one is bloody kirby?

Sineps_2

I don't think this is snipes. The real snipes wasn't that direct when I debated him.

Snipes the mods are coming for you.

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I don't think this is snipes. The real snipes wasn't that direct when I debated him.

Snipes the mods are coming for you.

I would like to get married someday, so I'm liberal.

Neither, I'm a rebel.

I would like to get married someday, so I'm liberal.

TreebucketLumi

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I would like to get married someday, so I'm liberal.

Fox-Call

Well... I don't really feel comfortable with identifying myself as a homosexual. Physically, I'm attracted to both sexes, but I have a stronger emotional preference towards men.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm bi, but I honestly can't see myself in a serious relationship with someone of the opposite sex.

Conservative. Less government spending and less government interference in our social lives (I guess you'd call that a social liberal).

None of that neo-conservative BS that's guiding the party today.

Liberal, according to the American definition, but I consider myself to be a moderate, personally.

As the saying goes, if you're 30 and still liberal it's time to grow up.

Liberal, because the Conservative philosophy usually adds government to our lives.Theokhoth

As the saying goes, if you're 30 and still liberal it's time to grow up.

p2250

Conservative. Less government spending and less government interference in our social lives>Saturos3091

As the saying goes, if you're 30 and still liberal it's time to grow up.

p2250

In social issues I lean more towards the liberal side. As for economical issues I dont know almost anything.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] History's turned out different, unless you consider banning gay marriage, abortion, substance abuse and various religious practices to be "less government in our lives." Historically, it's been the Liberal position that tends toward less government involvement (in fact, the modern idea of "Conservative" that you have is what was once called "Liberalism.") Conservatives do (claim to) like less economic restriction, though.Wasdie

That's where we differ. I care more about the stuff that keeps our country going in the long run, so I put emphasis on economic issues. However I am a pretty big liberal when it comes to social laws. I am for a version of gay marriage, a level of welfare and healthcare benefits, and a few other issues. However I put more emphasis on what I feel keeps a country going strong, and that's making sure we have the ability to be self sustainable and provide for ourselves.

I dont think I have to guess hard to know what you mean...

Conservative...most of the time their beliefs or whatever align with mine..

"If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain."

- Winston Churchill

Duxsox56

Just because the age group way after the 20's stereotypically is labeled as "mature" doesnt mean a thing. Along with "mature" come other traits many times such as stubborness, reduced ability to cope with changes and so on.

If the characteristics that I just mentioned are not worth mentioning because you believe that they dont represent the age group, then the same can be claimed for the age group that is connected (in your quote) with liberalism. Not all young people are immature, limitless, over-excited and so on.

"If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain."

- Winston Churchill

Duxsox56

Of course, it doesn't bother anyone that Churchill never said that.

"This quotation is frequently but mistakenly attributed to Churchill. It is anyway unlikely that Churchill would subscribe to this philosophy: He was a swashbuckling soldier at 20, and a Conservative member of Parliament at 25."

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"The phrase originated with Francois Guisot (1787-1874): "Not to be a republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head." It was revived by French Premier Georges Clemenceau (1841-1929): "Not to be a socialist at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head.""

Link.

Apparently this quote has been attributed to countless intellectuals over the course of history to lend a little credibility to a personal sentiment.

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[QUOTE="magicalclick"]

Come to think of it. Does Snipes1 has cute Kirby? And this one is bloody kirby?

Sineps_2

I don't think this is snipes. The real snipes wasn't that direct when I debated him.

Apparently he was snipes. If you click on his account it shows that he got banned.

I work for a living.

Thus I naturally sway conservative. Not really inline with their religious montage of "human rights" though.

I'm conservative. I feel that they most represent my values.

I'm a mish-mash of ideas. I'm probably a Libertarian. I side more with conservatives. But I see contridictions on both sides. I'm fiscially conservative, and somewhat socially liberal. I think we should be as FREE as possible. The market should have less regulation. And social issues should be more open.

For example, I am for gay marriage (although I disagree with it, it is not my position to tell other people who they can and cannot marry), I am for the legalization of marijuana, as long as it is heavily regulated, at least in the beginning. Once again, I'm against the use of marijuana, but you have to ask yourself, who is it harming? If people want to smoke marijuana for personal use in their home or at a smoke shop, then why can't they? I'm against abortion. I don't think any human can decide to terminate another human's life. I don't care about any of this "well, two weeks it's not a human, it's only a human after blah blah". There is no real logical argument for abortion. You are either for it or against it. I'm against the death penalty. Like I said, I don't think any human has the right to take the life of another, regardless of what they have done. I'm for the legalization of prostitution. I mean, who is it harming? If two consenting adults want to have sex, who is the government to say that they cannot pay one another for the service as a mutual agreement? What makes the payment for sex any different from the payment for a massage? Or the payment for an oil change? It is no different, and the law is stupid. I don't agree with prostitution, but who am I to stop two consenting adults?

So I want the market to be as free as possible, and I want social issues to be as free as possible - within reason. But I tend to weigh more heavily on fiscal issues, which is why I generally tend to favor Republicans. I think economic issues are the most important, since it affects the living situation of plenty of people. It's more "real" to me.

i try hard not to pick sides.. it only causes problems.. i tend to be liberal leaning however

reggie seems to sum it up pretty well..

Since according to the left-right American spectrum, socialists do not exist, I'm not sure why people seem to fear that ideology so much.

In social issues I lean more towards the liberal side. As for economical issues I dont know almost anything.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] History's turned out different, unless you consider banning gay marriage, abortion, substance abuse and various religious practices to be "less government in our lives." Historically, it's been the Liberal position that tends toward less government involvement (in fact, the modern idea of "Conservative" that you have is what was once called "Liberalism.") Conservatives do (claim to) like less economic restriction, though.Teenaged

That's where we differ. I care more about the stuff that keeps our country going in the long run, so I put emphasis on economic issues. However I am a pretty big liberal when it comes to social laws. I am for a version of gay marriage, a level of welfare and healthcare benefits, and a few other issues. However I put more emphasis on what I feel keeps a country going strong, and that's making sure we have the ability to be self sustainable and provide for ourselves.

I dont think I have to guess hard to know what you mean...

personally i would be for gay marriage if they called it "fake marriage" and called heterosexual marriage "real marriage"

personally i would be for gay marriage if they called it "fake marriage" and called heterosexual marriage "real marriage"

TreebucketLumi

I don't care for labels that come with neat little packages. I don't believe anything needs to be EXACTLY one way or the other. Beliefs & or opinions that are packaged with trendy labels exist to to simplify the matter for ALL of the jerks who probably don't understand any of it. All they have to do is pick one or the other. Any idiot can do that.

Sarcastic. I honestly cannot fathom how any person with a functioning mind can't be for equal civil rights.

Sarcastic. I honestly cannot fathom how any person with a functioning mind can't be for equal civil rights.

TreebucketLumi

I atleast respect those who can be honest about it instead of making up excuses for why civil rights are bad.

for instance, just say "I don't want gays in the army" instead of trying to act like DADT is "for their own safety!"

Liberal, because the Conservative philosophy usually adds government to our lives.Theokhoth