Libyan Rebels want George Bush?

So in Libya guys are trying to overthrow their dictator: Mr. Qadafi.

Qadafi is bombing the rebels with his air force and is not caring about hitting civilians. I saw on tv that Britain, France, and the Arab League want a no fly zone imposed on Libya and Interpol has an arrest warrant for Qadafi.

Apparently Libyan rebels want help from: George Bush.

A rebel there was saying:

"Bring Bush! Make a no fly zone, bomb the planes," shouted soldier-turned-rebel Nasr Ali, referring to a no-fly zone imposed on Iraq in 1991 by then U.S. President George Bush.

I've been reading about Gaddafi's home town of Sirt. It's halfway between Misrata and the western most rebel held town in the east, Res Lanuf. If they want to link up with the other rebels in the west near Tripoli, they will have to take the town. It's perhaps his most loyal and diehard stronghold, and it will be an extraordinarily tough nut to crack without foreign intervention, so they say.

Translation for me: with no foreign intervention, there will be a long, protracted civil war. If there is, there still yet may be. What to do...

People are under estimating the loyalty of Gaddafi's supporters. I think its going to be a longer war than most people are thinking. That being said, I still think the United States should stay completely out of it. You can't have a no fly zone over a country without going on an air to ground offensive first. If we involve ourselves we're stuck in it for the long haul until someone prevails.

Let Europe deal with this one.

I've been reading about Gaddafi's home town of Sirt. It's halfway between Misrata and the western most rebel held town in the east, Res Lanuf. If they want to link up with the other rebels in the west near Tripoli, they will have to take the town. It's perhaps his most loyal and diehard stronghold, and it will be an extraordinarily tough nut to crack without foreign intervention, so they say.

Translation for me: with no foreign intervention, there will be a long, protracted civil war. If there is, there still yet may be. What to do...

jetpower3

People are under estimating the loyalty of Gaddafi's supporters. I think its going to be a longer war than most people are thinking. That being said, I still think the United States should stay completely out of it. You can't have a no fly zone over a country without going on an air to ground offensive first. If we involve ourselves we're stuck in it for the long haul until someone prevails.

Let Europe deal with this one.

UnknownSniper65

What about the prospects of proxy support (arms, aid, training, and the like)? It's not like that's anything of a new policy to the U.S., or to its enemies for that matter(including Gaddafi himself to a certain degree).

I think the U.S should stay out of it because by creating a no fly zone it would basically put us in a third war in the middle east. I say let someone else handle this problem or we do a proxy war providing them weapons, etc. Because short term Gaddafi has the money, etc to hold onto power but in the long term the rebels would win because of our proxy war.

People are under estimating the loyalty of Gaddafi's supporters. I think its going to be a longer war than most people are thinking. That being said, I still think the United States should stay completely out of it. You can't have a no fly zone over a country without going on an air to ground offensive first. If we involve ourselves we're stuck in it for the long haul until someone prevails.

Let Europe deal with this one.

UnknownSniper65

agreed 100%

US needs to tread softly as far as international relations go imo. And this is a civil war, btw, not really something any foreign power should rush into

LOL. I saw that too. Never thought I'd see a muslim country asking for GW Bush. But, establishing a no fly zone basically means going to war. Not sure if we should do that or not. I'd like to see them utilize diplomatic solutions first to prevent the Libyan govt. from using military force on its own people.

This is more of a European problem than an American one. The European Union has a relatively fresh military and Libya is right across from Italy. If we sit around doing nothing, the rebels will hate us. If we get involved, Qaddafi's supporters will hate us. It is a lose-lose scenario. k0r3aN_pR1d3

Yes, but how many members of the EU are also in NATO? Even if it's the branch of the EU doing the work, the NATO connection can make it look just as imperialistic in the eyes of Gaddafi's supporters, especially given Libya's history as an Italian colony.

I am for whatever leads the libyan people to have their human rights. If killing Gadafi will do that. I think we should help. That said, I don't understand the whole situation.