Looking at God

Why believe in something through Faith. Faith is not proof. Its silly to believe in something that hasn't been proven and will never be proven. In my opinion I believe People are afraid to die and I think History proves this.

Lets look at history, We all came from different sectors of the planet. Its not like if you were in Asia, you could pick up the phone and call someone in South America. People lived their own lives and they each formed their own Governments (in a way). What's also interesting is that they each formed their own religion too. Many of the religions have evovled into what they are today but the concept is the same. Some of the relgions have been removed such as Greek Mythology.

I think that the reason we have so many religions is because people want to know how they got here. They want to know and they are smart enough to think about it. Why don't animals have a god?

Your thoughts?

People can believe what they want, I'd be a moron if I tried too sway them on an Internet forum.Hellraiser3899

I know and I'm not trying to Persuade. I'm trying to converse. obviously, no one can persuade on what they were taught as facts since they were kids. I just want to know what other people think and I must say, your not contributing to this thread in a productive manner.

a better question than "why believe in god" is "why not believe in god?"

Its not as if a belief in god is more detrimental than a lack thereof...

i also find it funny that every single civilization from the beginning of time almost has some sort of belief in a higher power. why is that? is it simply human nature to believe that there is a grand master working some grand scheme of life? Dont act like God is something new, i cant name a civilazation which didnt have a god. which is odd. its accually the thought of NOT believing in god which is new.

I answered a similar question in a previous thread. I'm transfering that post here.

If you look at the whole of human history, rarely has mankind left difficult questions unanswered for long. That's not to say that we manage to satisfactorily answer those questions. On the contrary, we often make up our own answers when the real answers are still beyond our reach. Religious examples of this phenomenon include everything from our primitive explanations of the Sun, to the cause of disease, the origin of lightning and thunder, the tides, the elements, earthquakes, etc. How many events, both large and small, have been mistakenly attributed to the direct influence of supernatural beings in human history? More than you or I could ever count I'm sure, regardless of where we stand on the religious spectrum.

Answering our own questions is only part of the problem. We also have a tendency to ask the wrong questions. For example, for centuries we asked ourselves what happens to water at the end of the Earth rather than questioning whether or not the Earth was actually flat to begin with. There's nothing wrong with asking the wrong questions. After all, they often lead to the right ones. The problem comes with the assumption that we're asking the right questions to begin with. For example, think of a man who can't grasp the concept of eternity or infinity. He might keep asking "How did it all begin?" Perhaps there was no beginning as we understand it and the better question is "What is that nature of all that is?"

A third problem (among many others I'm sure) is that each of these questions and answers is framed by our individual perspectives and world views. Hey, we can't help it! We're only human after all, but dang, what a major limitation.

And so from my own limited perspective I see these three issues rising to the surface over and over again. Despite a few millennia of examples we continue to answer our own questions, assume we're asking the right questions, and more often than not we don't even bother to look beyond our own field of vision for answers.

Are we learning from our mistakes? Many of us still attribute the unknown to a god, or gods, or something supernatural or spiritual. Others are convinced science holds an explanation for everything and happily piggy back onto the latest theories of which they have little to no understanding.

Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!

- George Carlin

I answered a similar question in a previous thread. I'm transfering that post here.

If you look at the whole of human history, rarely has mankind left difficult questions unanswered for long. That's not to say that we manage to satisfactorily answer those questions. On the contrary, we often make up our own answers when the real answers are still beyond our reach. Religious examples of this phenomenon include everything from our primitive explanations of the Sun, to the cause of disease, the origin of lightning and thunder, the tides, the elements, earthquakes, etc. How many events, both large and small, have been mistakenly attributed to the direct influence of supernatural beings in human history? More than you or I could ever count I'm sure, regardless of where we stand on the religious spectrum.

Answering our own questions is only part of the problem. We also have a tendency to ask the wrong questions. For example, for centuries we asked ourselves what happens to water at the end of the Earth rather than questioning whether or not the Earth was actually flat to begin with. There's nothing wrong with asking the wrong questions. After all, they often lead to the right ones. The problem comes with the assumption that we're asking the right questions to begin with. For example, think of a man who can't grasp the concept of eternity or infinity. He might keep asking "How did it all begin?" Perhaps there was no beginning as we understand it and the better question is "What is that nature of all that is?"

A third problem (among many others I'm sure) is that each of these questions and answers is framed by our individual perspectives and world views. Hey, we can't help it! We're only human after all, but dang, what a major limitation.

And so from my own limited perspective I see these three issues rising to the surface over and over again. Despite a few millennia of examples we continue to answer our own questions, assume we're asking the right questions, and more often than not we don't even bother to look beyond our own field of vision for answers.

Are we learning from our mistakes? Many of us still attribute the unknown to a god, or gods, or something supernatural or spiritual. Others are convinced science holds an explanation for everything and happily piggy back onto the latest theories of which they have little to no understanding.

Schwah

Well why have we allowed Religion to overpower the people and allow them to brainwash our community and take their money. Isn't it time we stand up to Religion or have we let it become to powerful? For years we believed that the sun revolved around the earth and we even ridiculed the man who said differently. Why can't we let the unknown be unknown. Why must be make these things up. Is it because our imagination is so great that we can't help ourselves? Look at the movies and Television shows we create. The Advertisements. Creativity. something that distinctly separates us from what we call Animals.

Well why have we allowed Religion to overpower the people and allow them to brainwash our community and take their money. Isn't it time we stand up to Religion or have we let it become to powerful? For years we believed that the sun revolved around the earth and we even ridiculed the man who said differently. Why can't we let the unknown be unknown. Why must be make these things up. Is it because our imagination is so great that we can't help ourselves? Look at the movies and Television shows we create. The Advertisements. Creativity. something that distinctly separates us from what we call Animals.

heyyou91

Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!

- George Carlin

AnimeKiller

Thats an interesting way to look at how Religion has scammed the community. Nevertheless, it gives them comfort and people need comfort. They need to feel safe even though they can die at any minute, anywhere. Aren't they paying for what they're getting? The Feeling of "safe".

you ask us why we believe in god, why dont you tell us why nature can be eternal?mig_killer2

It can't.

[QUOTE="heyyou91"]

Well why have we allowed Religion to overpower the people and allow them to brainwash our community and take their money. Isn't it time we stand up to Religion or have we let it become to powerful? For years we believed that the sun revolved around the earth and we even ridiculed the man who said differently. Why can't we let the unknown be unknown. Why must be make these things up. Is it because our imagination is so great that we can't help ourselves? Look at the movies and Television shows we create. The Advertisements. Creativity. something that distinctly separates us from what we call Animals.

JPOBS

There's nothing wrong with it but why aren't we smart about it and actually study this? Maybe we'll get closer to actual answers this way...

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="heyyou91"]

Well why have we allowed Religion to overpower the people and allow them to brainwash our community and take their money. Isn't it time we stand up to Religion or have we let it become to powerful? For years we believed that the sun revolved around the earth and we even ridiculed the man who said differently. Why can't we let the unknown be unknown. Why must be make these things up. Is it because our imagination is so great that we can't help ourselves? Look at the movies and Television shows we create. The Advertisements. Creativity. something that distinctly separates us from what we call Animals.

heyyou91

There's nothing wrong with it but why aren't we smart about it and actually study this? Maybe we'll get closer to actual answers this way...

[QUOTE="heyyou91"][QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="heyyou91"]

Well why have we allowed Religion to overpower the people and allow them to brainwash our community and take their money. Isn't it time we stand up to Religion or have we let it become to powerful? For years we believed that the sun revolved around the earth and we even ridiculed the man who said differently. Why can't we let the unknown be unknown. Why must be make these things up. Is it because our imagination is so great that we can't help ourselves? Look at the movies and Television shows we create. The Advertisements. Creativity. something that distinctly separates us from what we call Animals.

JPOBS

There's nothing wrong with it but why aren't we smart about it and actually study this? Maybe we'll get closer to actual answers this way...

Aww, the "scientist". I'm not sure we can rely on them.

They are the ones who created a Table and told us that everything is made out of those "elements"; however, we have yet to see the "atom" or the "proton" they are talking about.

proof shouldn't be neccesary if you truly believe in god he wants to see how far your faith will push your beliefshalo9424

Isn't that a convient answer?

Well why have we allowed Religion to overpower the people and allow them to brainwash our community and take their money. Isn't it time we stand up to Religion or have we let it become to powerful? For years we believed that the sun revolved around the earth and we even ridiculed the man who said differently. Why can't we let the unknown be unknown. Why must be make these things up. Is it because our imagination is so great that we can't help ourselves? Look at the movies and Television shows we create. The Advertisements. Creativity. something that distinctly separates us from what we call Animals.

heyyou91

We being who? You, me, society, human beings? The majority of human beings believe in something supernatural and greater than themselves. While I don't see eye to eye with this perspective, I really don't see any reason to "crusade" against it. Don't get me wrong, I'll speak my mind and defend my position as an agnostic and moral relativist, but I don't see an immediate need to wage war against those individuals (most of them very peaceful) who choose a faith-based approach.

I'm also not a fan of the word brainwashing in this context because the same word could then be used to describe almost any adopted belief and behavior. Ex. Jim's parents told him that killing cats is wrong and Jim has never killed a cat. Jim is totally brainwashed. Or how about, Jim's parents taught him that there is no God. Jim is totally brainwashed.

As for the last part of your response. I'm not sure. I guess we just don't like the unknown and feel the need tofill the void any way we can.

so whats wrong with religion/god being the answer for whatever we dont know yet?
JPOBS

"Answered" questions don't often get fresh consideration.

a better question than "why believe in god" is "why not believe in god?"

Its not as if a belief in god is more detrimental than a lack thereof...

i also find it funny that every single civilization from the beginning of time almost has some sort of belief in a higher power. why is that? is it simply human nature to believe that there is a grand master working some grand scheme of life? Dont act like God is something new, i cant name a civilazation which didnt have a god. which is odd. its accually the thought of NOT believing in god which is new.

JPOBS

Know what else is new? Aeroplanes, space shuttles, computers, electricity, reliable medicine and science which explains a loy more things than religion can.

All religion can do is make things up and tell people if they dont believe it they are going to hell.

[QUOTE="heyyou91"] Well why have we allowed Religion to overpower the people and allow them to brainwash our community and take their money. Isn't it time we stand up to Religion or have we let it become to powerful? For years we believed that the sun revolved around the earth and we even ridiculed the man who said differently. Why can't we let the unknown be unknown. Why must be make these things up. Is it because our imagination is so great that we can't help ourselves? Look at the movies and Television shows we create. The Advertisements. Creativity. something that distinctly separates us from what we call Animals.

Schwah

We being who? You, me, society, human beings? The majority of human beings believe in something supernatural and greater than themselves. While I don't see eye to eye with this perspective, I really don't see any reason to "crusade" against it. Don't get me wrong, I'll speak my mind and defend my position as an agnostic and moral relativist, but I don't see an immediate need to wage war against those individuals (most of them very peaceful) who choose a faith-based approach.

I'm also not a fan of the word brainwashing in this context because the same word could then be used to describe almost any adopted belief and behavior. Ex. Jim's parents told him that killing cats is wrong and Jim has never killed a cat. Jim is totally brainwashed. Or how about, Jim's parents taught him that there is no God. Jim is totally brainwashed.

As for the last part of your response. I'm not sure. I guess we just don't like the unknown and feel the need tofill the void any way we can.

We, being Society. As a majority we do believe in the supernatural and I'm not suggesting a crusade aganist them because they will probably win. Most of them are peaceful but do you not feel bad for them?

You may not be a fan of the word brainwashing in this context but it is. Your 2 examples are different. One is in Values and one is in Religion. You said "Jim's parents told him that killing cats is wrong and Jim has never killed a cat. Jim is totally brainwashed." Jim's parents are passing on their values to their child. Wouldn't you say so? Are we not allowed to pass on values to our children? The question is How did Jim's parents recieve these values? Was it not passed on from their parents? So we could assume at one point in history Jim's parents great great great grandparents suggested that killing cats is wrong. While the majority of society believes that killing cats is bad. There are people who don't care about cats and have no problem killing and torturing them. BUT, we are not making churches for cats and giving them money, are we?

[QUOTE="JPOBS"]

a better question than "why believe in god" is "why not believe in god?"

Its not as if a belief in god is more detrimental than a lack thereof...

i also find it funny that every single civilization from the beginning of time almost has some sort of belief in a higher power. why is that? is it simply human nature to believe that there is a grand master working some grand scheme of life? Dont act like God is something new, i cant name a civilazation which didnt have a god. which is odd. its accually the thought of NOT believing in god which is new.

Loonie

Know what else is new? Aeroplanes, space shuttles, computers, electricity, reliable medicine and science which explains a loy more things than religion can.

All religion can do is make things up and tell people if they dont believe it they are going to hell.

No, Religion is a business.

You do not yell at Microsoft for selling Xbox 360's, do you? Its there job.

We, being Society. As a majority we do believe in the supernatural and I'm not suggesting a crusade aganist them because they will probably win. Most of them are peaceful but do you not feel bad for them?

You may not be a fan of the word brainwashing in this context but it is. Your 2 examples are different. One is in Values and one is in Religion. You said "Jim's parents told him that killing cats is wrong and Jim has never killed a cat. Jim is totally brainwashed." Jim's parents are passing on their values to their child. Wouldn't you say so? Are we not allowed to pass on values to our children? The question is How did Jim's parents recieve these values? Was it not passed on from their parents? So we could assume at one point in history Jim's parents great great great grandparents suggested that killing cats is wrong. While the majority of society believes that killing cats is bad. There are people who don't care about cats and have no problem killing and torturing them. BUT, we are not making churches for cats and giving them money, are we?

heyyou91

Do I feel bad for them? No, I'm actually a little envious at times. I used to be a Christian myself, and when everything else seemed to be falling apart I could wrap my beliefs around me like a warm blanket. Don't get me wrong. I'm very happy that I allowed myself to face difficult questions head on and give myself honest answers. I wouldn't trade what I've learned for anything.

And yes, parents pass on values but they pass on beliefs as welll.

Faith is never said to be proof. It takes some amount of faith to believe in anything, because absolute truth does not exist.Agustin_Barrios

Interesting. So you don't believe there are ANY absolute truths? I only ask because most individuals who have written on the subject suggest that there are absoulte truths, even if we don't have access to them. And a few others actually goso far as totry toname a few absolute truths. Just curious how you came to this conclusion.

[QUOTE="Agustin_Barrios"]Faith is never said to be proof. It takes some amount of faith to believe in anything, because absolute truth does not exist.Schwah

Interesting. So you don't believe there are ANY absolute truths? I only ask because most individuals who have written on the subject suggest that there are absoulte truths, even if we don't have access to them. And a few others actually goso far as totry toname a few absolute truths. Just curious how you came to this conclusion.

I just simply don't believe it is possible to completely and absolutely prove anything. There are always nonfalsifiable arguements to contradict what is apparently being stated.

Not true.

I am posting on Gamespot right now. Disprove that.heyyou91

Well...I've read your posts...and I'm somewhat intimidated to disagree with you, but you might change my opinion, so here it goes:

I just simply don't believe it is possible to completely and absolutely prove anything. There are always nonfalsifiable arguements to contradict what is apparently being stated.

Agustin_Barrios

I wasn't trying to contradict you, I just thought it was a very bold opinion and worth looking into.

I'm inclined to agree with you in part, especially since arguments (weak as they may be)can be made to cast doubt on the very existence of self. Even Decartes "Cogito, ergo sum" has some detractors.

[QUOTE="Agustin_Barrios"] Well...I've read your posts...and I'm somewhat intimidated to disagree with you, but you might change my opinion, so here it goes:

I just simply don't believe it is possible to completely and absolutely prove anything. There are always nonfalsifiable arguements to contradict what is apparently being stated.

Schwah

I wasn't trying to contradict you, I just thought it was a very bold opinion and worth looking into.

I'm inclined to agree with you in part, especially since arguments (weak as they may be)can be made to cast doubt on the very existence of self. Even Decartes "Cogito, ergo sum" has some detractors.

[QUOTE="heyyou91"]Not true.

I am posting on Gamespot right now. Disprove that.Agustin_Barrios

Well just for fun let's bring Descartes into this. Descartes famous phrase in it's revised form reads, "I think, I exist." Note that he is not putting any qualifiers on his existance, just stating that in some form or another he exists. Thoughts?

And also, I have a few Miles Davis CDs and my favorite piece by him is "Milestones". Needless to say, I like your avatar.
Agustin_Barrios

Nice 8)

He's the man.

[QUOTE="Agustin_Barrios"][QUOTE="heyyou91"]Not true.

I am posting on Gamespot right now. Disprove that.Schwah

Well just for fun let's bring Descartes into this. Descartes famous phrase in it's revised form reads, "I think, I exist." Note that he is not putting any qualifiers on his existance, just stating that in some form or another he exists. Thoughts?

I can't really prove heyyou91's existence. However if my existence is absolute by that quote, I suppose it contradicts my original statement, however, it raises this question in my head; "Why does thought prove existence?"
Agustin_Barrios

Well, existence is a pretty abstract idea and doesn't necessarily have to imply a physical manifestation. The point, I think, is that the only thing you can be absolutely sure of from your own perspective is that you exist in some form or another. Why? Because you're thinking right now. You are experiencing and interpreting to at least some degree. Even if you're thoughts and actions are being forced, you still exist for your thoughts and actions to be forced. Even if there is a deceiving god who has fooled you or controlled you into experiencing the way that you do, you still exist to be deceived.

[QUOTE="Agustin_Barrios"]Faith is never said to be proof. It takes some amount of faith to believe in anything, because absolute truth does not exist.Schwah

Interesting. So you don't believe there are ANY absolute truths? I only ask because most individuals who have written on the subject suggest that there are absoulte truths, even if we don't have access to them. And a few others actually goso far as totry toname a few absolute truths. Just curious how you came to this conclusion.

Ah yes good old radical scepticism. He's right you know there is no such thing as an absolute truth. Plato's works contain some interesting insight on the absoluteness of knowledge. If Socrates was still around he would be able to doubt even the most concrete of truths. But unfortunately it's not very constructive to sit on the fence when life demands action.

Ah yes good old radical scepticism. He's right you know there is no such thing as an absolute truth. Plato's works contain some interesting insight on the absoluteness of knowledge. If Socrates was still around he would be able to doubt even the most concrete of truths. But unfortunately it's not very constructive to sit on the fence when life demands action. domatron23

You're a Socrates fan? I never would have guessed. ;)

I'm still not convinced there's no such thing as an absolute truth. I'm lean towards believing that as human beings we don't have access to absolute truths, butI'm still inclined to believe absolute truths exist.

And yes, if you can't latch on to any truths with which to build a foundation you'd better make use of informed assumptions or risk the worst fate of all... idleness.

[QUOTE="Agustin_Barrios"][QUOTE="heyyou91"]Not true.

I am posting on Gamespot right now. Disprove that.Schwah

Well just for fun let's bring Descartes into this. Descartes famous phrase in it's revised form reads, "I think, I exist." Note that he is not putting any qualifiers on his existance, just stating that in some form or another he exists. Thoughts?

This brings us into the Intential and Extential Worlds.

you ask us why we believe in god, why dont you tell us why nature can be eternal?mig_killer2

Well the Bible has been historically provencukoo

[QUOTE="domatron23"]Ah yes good old radical scepticism. He's right you know there is no such thing as an absolute truth. Plato's works contain some interesting insight on the absoluteness of knowledge. If Socrates was still around he would be able to doubt even the most concrete of truths. But unfortunately it's not very constructive to sit on the fence when life demands action. Schwah

You're a Socrates fan? I never would have guessed. ;)

I'm still not convinced there's no such thing as an absolute truth. I'm lean towards believing that as human beings we don't have access to absolute truths, butI'm still inclined to believe absolute truths exist.

And yes, if you can't latch on to any truths with which to build a foundation you'd better make use of informed assumptions or risk the worst fate of all... idleness.

Hm.. The way I see it, there either is truth or there is not - I'm not clear what this distinction of 'absolute truth' is. I also see no reason to think there are no truths.

[QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="heyyou91"][QUOTE="JPOBS"][QUOTE="heyyou91"]

Well why have we allowed Religion to overpower the people and allow them to brainwash our community and take their money. Isn't it time we stand up to Religion or have we let it become to powerful? For years we believed that the sun revolved around the earth and we even ridiculed the man who said differently. Why can't we let the unknown be unknown. Why must be make these things up. Is it because our imagination is so great that we can't help ourselves? Look at the movies and Television shows we create. The Advertisements. Creativity. something that distinctly separates us from what we call Animals.

heyyou91

There's nothing wrong with it but why aren't we smart about it and actually study this? Maybe we'll get closer to actual answers this way...

Aww, the "scientist". I'm not sure we can rely on them.

They are the ones who created a Table and told us that everything is made out of those "elements"; however, we have yet to see the "atom" or the "proton" they are talking about.

You asked why animals don't have a God? It's quite simple. God created you and me with a soul and animals don't have a soul. Our soul is the part of us that will live for eternity either with God or separate from God. You also said that faith can't be proven. Well the Bible has been historically proven so having faith in the teachings of the Bible makes faith in the Bible real. You should do some in depth research on all religions and you'll find that the Bible separates itself from other religions due to it'saccuracy and reliability of facts.cukoo

Why believe in something through Faith. Faith is not proof. Its silly to believe in something that hasn't been proven and will never be proven. In my opinion I believe People are afraid to die and I think History proves this.

Lets look at history, We all came from different sectors of the planet. Its not like if you were in Asia, you could pick up the phone and call someone in South America. People lived their own lives and they each formed their own Governments (in a way). What's also interesting is that they each formed their own religion too. Many of the religions have evovled into what they are today but the concept is the same. Some of the relgions have been removed such as Greek Mythology.

I think that the reason we have so many religions is because people want to know how they got here. They want to know and they are smart enough to think about it. Why don't animals have a god?

Your thoughts?

heyyou91

The whole christian faith is FAITH. That's why it's called FAITH. Get it? As the book of Hebrews states, Faith is the evidence of things unseen. If you're honsetly asking a question then accept my answer with no remarks. If you're simply trying to get a rise out of everyone, then you're simply too young to understand what I just said and I have nothing further to say.

[QUOTE="heyyou91"]

Why believe in something through Faith. Faith is not proof. Its silly to believe in something that hasn't been proven and will never be proven. In my opinion I believe People are afraid to die and I think History proves this.

Lets look at history, We all came from different sectors of the planet. Its not like if you were in Asia, you could pick up the phone and call someone in South America. People lived their own lives and they each formed their own Governments (in a way). What's also interesting is that they each formed their own religion too. Many of the religions have evovled into what they are today but the concept is the same. Some of the relgions have been removed such as Greek Mythology.

I think that the reason we have so many religions is because people want to know how they got here. They want to know and they are smart enough to think about it. Why don't animals have a god?

Your thoughts?

Skullheart

The whole christian faith is FAITH. That's why it's called FAITH. Get it? As the book of Hebrews states, Faith is the evidence of things unseen. If you're honsetly asking a question then accept my answer with no remarks. If you're simply trying to get a rise out of everyone, then you're simply too young to understand what I just said and I have nothing further to say.

[QUOTE="Skullheart"][QUOTE="heyyou91"]

Why believe in something through Faith. Faith is not proof. Its silly to believe in something that hasn't been proven and will never be proven. In my opinion I believe People are afraid to die and I think History proves this.

Lets look at history, We all came from different sectors of the planet. Its not like if you were in Asia, you could pick up the phone and call someone in South America. People lived their own lives and they each formed their own Governments (in a way). What's also interesting is that they each formed their own religion too. Many of the religions have evovled into what they are today but the concept is the same. Some of the relgions have been removed such as Greek Mythology.

I think that the reason we have so many religions is because people want to know how they got here. They want to know and they are smart enough to think about it. Why don't animals have a god?

Your thoughts?

Taalon

The whole christian faith is FAITH. That's why it's called FAITH. Get it? As the book of Hebrews states, Faith is the evidence of things unseen. If you're honsetly asking a question then accept my answer with no remarks. If you're simply trying to get a rise out of everyone, then you're simply too young to understand what I just said and I have nothing further to say.

It's okay, nobody expects you to understand at such a young age. In time, you'll see the truth.

[QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="Skullheart"][QUOTE="heyyou91"]

Why believe in something through Faith. Faith is not proof. Its silly to believe in something that hasn't been proven and will never be proven. In my opinion I believe People are afraid to die and I think History proves this.

Lets look at history, We all came from different sectors of the planet. Its not like if you were in Asia, you could pick up the phone and call someone in South America. People lived their own lives and they each formed their own Governments (in a way). What's also interesting is that they each formed their own religion too. Many of the religions have evovled into what they are today but the concept is the same. Some of the relgions have been removed such as Greek Mythology.

I think that the reason we have so many religions is because people want to know how they got here. They want to know and they are smart enough to think about it. Why don't animals have a god?

Your thoughts?

Skullheart

The whole christian faith is FAITH. That's why it's called FAITH. Get it? As the book of Hebrews states, Faith is the evidence of things unseen. If you're honsetly asking a question then accept my answer with no remarks. If you're simply trying to get a rise out of everyone, then you're simply too young to understand what I just said and I have nothing further to say.

It's okay, nobody expects you to understand at such a young age. In time, you'll see the truth.