Looking at new cars...

I'd go with the Camaro personally.

Ford has the most high performance engine this muscle car gen so if you want power go with them.

I personally would do with an SRT8 charger, but a plum purple which they don't make with the new challenger lights.

I forgot to mention in my original posting that I have a personal budget or under 30K!! Which is why I probably wont go for the Camaro SS, Charger SRT8 or Boss 302 Mustang!! I have a hard time justifying $40-50K for a car!!! Im not rich!!!ShoTTyMcNaDeS

[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]I forgot to mention in my original posting that I have a personal budget or under 30K!! Which is why I probably wont go for the Camaro SS, Charger SRT8 or Boss 302 Mustang!! I have a hard time justifying $40-50K for a car!!! Im not rich!!!Fightingfan

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]I forgot to mention in my original posting that I have a personal budget or under 30K!! Which is why I probably wont go for the Camaro SS, Charger SRT8 or Boss 302 Mustang!! I have a hard time justifying $40-50K for a car!!! Im not rich!!!horgen123

If you want fun get a Lotus Exige.

But out of the ones you picked I'd go for the Camaro. The rest are fugly.

Caddilac CTS-V

Caddilac CTS-V

taterfrickintot

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Caddilac CTS-V

Fightingfan

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Caddilac CTS-V

taterfrickintot

[QUOTE="taterfrickintot"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"] These are BAMFs, I've seen the coupes here in Miami they look ugly in the back, but man do they haul ass. Vette powered.Fightingfan

If you want fun get a Lotus Exige.

But out of the ones you picked I'd go for the Camaro. The rest are fugly.

Big_Bad_Sad

[QUOTE="Big_Bad_Sad"]

If you want fun get a Lotus Exige.

But out of the ones you picked I'd go for the Camaro. The rest are fugly.

Fightingfan

As for the TC, get the Mustang GT. The Charger and Challenger are both bloated, slow, and handle like boats. The Camaro SS is better than the Dodges, but the GT nearly blows them all of the water in terms of performance and handling. Probably two of the major things you're looking for if you want a "fun car" like you said.

Edit: This is only if we're talking about 2011 or newer cars. Before that, the GT was more comparable to a pile of sh*t.

My advice is to go test drive them all and see which one you like the most. I'd go with the Mustang GT but I'm biased because my family owns one and I plan to eventually get a Mustang myself. I like the Camaro also but the dash is ugly and the car tends to be slightly more expensive and is more on fuel. The mustang has a way nicer interior, and in my opinion a much nicer exterior also.

Avoid dodge for cars.

Buy an M3.thegerg

Buy an M3.thegerg

completely beat the **** out of:

and plus you can buy tons of mustang kits to make your mustang look SICK like the shelby kit pic i posted

[QUOTE="thegerg"]Buy an M3.Fightingfan

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[QUOTE="thegerg"]Buy an M3.taterfrickintot

The camaro or the mustang. They just redid the mustang recently so that might be the better bet.

[QUOTE="taterfrickintot"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"] These are BAMFs, I've seen the coupes here in Miami they look ugly in the back, but man do they haul ass. Vette powered.Fightingfan

I really, really want one of those.

[QUOTE="taterfrickintot"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"] BMW typically lack power.

ShoTTyMcNaDeS

lol. BMW m3 stock has 414 horsepower, and can actually go around a corner!

[QUOTE="taterfrickintot"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"] BMW typically lack power.

ShoTTyMcNaDeS

[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"][QUOTE="taterfrickintot"] and tend to have a lot more then most american "muscle" cars.Dark__Link

[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"][QUOTE="taterfrickintot"] and tend to have a lot more then most american "muscle" cars.Dark__Link

[QUOTE="thegerg"]Buy an M3.Fightingfan

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[QUOTE="thegerg"]Buy an M3.thegerg

[QUOTE="Kurushio"] @Hadoken, i like how you show a modified mustang and challenger and then a normal SS. There is a huge aftermarket for the Camaro, while not as big as mustang obviously, is very good. hadoken

And it still looks pretty good to me lol.

http://autos.msn.com/research/compare/default.aspx?c=0&i=0&tb=0&ph1=t0&ph2=t0&dt=0&v=t111711&v=t110966&v=t112978&v=t113918&v=t113268&v=t113500&v=t113924&v=t113808&v=t113840&v=t114922&v=t114820&v=t113829&v=t113694&v=t115058

That link compares 2011 Camaro, Mustang, Challenger and the 2012 Charger. Also you can think about the warranty. Mustang only has a 60K powertrain while the Camaro has 100k. Seems like chevy has more confidence in thier engine and transmission than ford does (for good reason lol).

[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"] BMW typically lack power.Fightingfan

BMW M1.

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="thegerg"] BMW have power.M3boarder23

My 1.8Liter gets 210 Horses (b18c5) and what's a 4.4 BMW V8 get? I'm sure it's not of that caliber compared to my B18(2001 engine).

@Gerg You take my words to literally my friend, I was speaking in my vernacular.

[QUOTE="M3boarder23"][QUOTE="Fightingfan"] In terms of optimization they don't, their engines suck which is why the turbo/super charge everything.Fightingfan

My 1.8Liter gets 210 Horses (b18c5) and what's a 4.4 BMW V8 get? I'm sure it's not of that caliber compared to my B18(2001 engine).

@Gerg You take my words to literally my friend, I was speaking in my vernacular.

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[QUOTE="M3boarder23"] That's a dumb thing to say, that's like dying American engines aren't "optimized" because they're 6 liters Kurushio

My 1.8Liter gets 210 Horses (b18c5) and what's a 4.4 BMW V8 get? I'm sure it's not of that caliber compared to my B18(2001 engine).

@Gerg You take my words to literally my friend, I was speaking in my vernacular.

What's the inspired only horsepower?Well do some math.

The Germans and American cars just can't compete with the Japanese when it comes to optimization.I believe it has to do with having a smaller stroke which makes it easier to reach higher RPMs faster.

The b18c5? Ops, you're right.

I forgot my engine isn't in the original car(Intergra type-R) it's in a Honda Civic(2000lbs lighter) regardless that's amazing for an 11 year old 4cylinder.

Edit- It varies by serial model, Ebay has em rated at different levels of Horsepower.