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[QUOTE="TecmoGirl"]
Realistically, I could live without both--just not happily without one. And that one is sex.
Regardless if you're in love or not, it can be amazing. I love the excitement and rush I get from it--it can relieve stess and I absolutely need my fix or I'll be extremely sexually frustrated. Plus I can still have kids(huge matter to me)--since I can still be trusted, liked, and/or respected then I'll live happily enough. Love alone just isn't enough when it comes to a partner for me--not if we can't make love. But I always rather have them both overall.
MuddVader
While pleasuing myself is a good option, it can't hold a candle to actually having sex with a partner in my eyes.
Also, I could have kids that way, but I prefer sexual contact and rather do it in that manner. I'd kinda feel pathetic if I had to go the other route for some reason.
Sex without love is pretty much just a burning lust, but love making is still sex only passionate though right? Like, I don't think you can make love without having sexual contact or atleast that's what I always thought.
I'd choose Love. Pleasure can be achieved without a partner.
effena
True, but the experience is far from the same as a pleasurable partnered experience.
Not sure I understand what "true" and "everlasting" mean, but I agree that love is base on conditions for the most part. I love you because I am getting such and such in returns. As soon as that love stop being reciprical (real or imaginary), this love dies. - You are the first person that I have told that to who has understood the point I am making, and not simply belittled the opinion because love is always/usually conditional or its not love.
Beside conditional love, I think unconditional love also exist, though not that many ppl are capable of it or even understands it. One example I can think of is the soldiers fighting for the sake of this country. Ppl get enlisted probably because of a wide varity of reasons, but I believe there are a number of them enlisted solely because they love this country and would protect this country from harm, not necessary because that they will get recognize for it or anything in return (especially true for those who couldn't make it back alive.... please rest in peace) but simply because of their love for this country and they will always stand up for it, even paying the ultimate price for it...
I know the example is a bit extreme and I have taken the definition of love beyond relationships, but one's love for country, to me, is one of the most noble sentiment I can ever imagine exist in this world.
ariz3260
Sorry, for being vague. By "true" and "everlasting" I am basically mean unconditional. Why I never just said that is beyond me :P
It could be very well that I am one of the people who can not understand unconditional love, so I claim that it does not exists. And your example is very appropriate, I do not believe love, as I see it, is confined to relationships between individuals.
But, even for the most patriotic of soldiers isn't there anything, any action be it from their home country or their enemy country, that could cause there love for there country to diminish? If so, then the love is not truly conditional. Although, this question is largely rhetorical because there is no way to know what a person's motivation is for truly loving their country as that is a largely personal thing not always steeped in reciprocity.
True, but the experience is far from the same as a pleasurable partnered experience.
clayron
[QUOTE="effena"]
I'd choose Love. Pleasure can be achieved without a partner.
clayron
True, but the experience is far from the same as a pleasurable partnered experience.
But having sex with a partner that you are in love with would be much better than a partner that you wern't in love with (I would think). Self plesure is far less than either of them, but there is no substitute for love
I could live without either, but I would choose sexless love over loveless sex.
[QUOTE="clayron"]
[QUOTE="effena"]
I'd choose Love. Pleasure can be achieved without a partner.
effena
True, but the experience is far from the same as a pleasurable partnered experience.
But having sex with a partner that you are in love with would be much better than a partner that you wern't in love with (I would think). Self plesure is far less than either of them, but there is no substitute for love
I could live without either, but I would choose sexless love over loveless sex.
But having sex with a partner that you are in love with would be much better than a partner that you wern't in love with (I would think). Self plesure is far less than either of them, but there is no substitute for love
I could live without either, but I would choose sexless love over loveless sex.
effena
I can sympathize. To me, sex is sex regardless of emotional attachment or not.
Love of course. Well both is nice I must say but if I had to give one up it would definately be sex. I had a one-night stand once and it was nothing compared to sex with someone you love.tofu-lion91But the point of the threadi s that you can't have sex with the one you love.
Sorry, for being vague. By "true" and "everlasting" I am basically mean unconditional. Why I never just said that is beyond me :P
It could be very well that I am one of the people who can not understand unconditional love, so I claim that it does not exists. And your example is very appropriate, I do not believe love, as I see it, is confined to relationships between individuals.
But, even for the most patriotic of soldiers isn't there anything, any action be it from their home country or their enemy country, that could cause there love for there country to diminish? If so, then the love is not truly conditional. Although, this question is largely rhetorical because there is no way to know what a person's motivation is for truly loving their country as that is a largely personal thing not always steeped in reciprocity.
Haha I don't blame you for not understanding unconditional love, I myself had never truly understand it either so that makes two of us :lol:
What I have is simply a belief that it does exist, this unconditional love. Best examples I can think of, at the risk of sounding like a religious fanatic, are Jesus and Buddha. I don't claim to be a know-it-all when it comes to religions, but Jesus act of sacrificing himself so all of humanity can be forgiven in the eye of God is one such example. And long before Buddha became who he was, in one of his reincarnation, he came upon a hungry tiger who was too weak to hunt, decided to feed the tiger with his body.
I am not debating whether or not such events actually took place, but these are two best examples for demontrating unconditional love, or some would call it Altruism. Both examples require a person to truly give up the sense of "self" to achieve better good or solely for the benefit of another.
require a person to truly give up the sense of "self" to achieve better good or solely for the benefit of another.I understand true unconditional love, I'm just yet to put it into practice yet because of uncontrollable circumstances, though I feel that besides for this person, I would never manifest such complete and utter selflessness for anyone else. Shes special to me on a probably unhealthy level lol.ariz3260
Haha if you can practice unconditional love not just those special to you but also towards everyone else in general, I might have to start calling you Buddha :lol:
dude, that was a bit too deep... it's a video game forum. that was like poetry.... quick, run back to the YLYL threads!Ive only been loved 'like that' for a very very short time in the past.
I love with all my heart that person who gave me that already even though that love is no longer returned.
And I know that without my love, I would be a meaningless husk, I was once before and she made me care for the first time in a long time what I was.
So I would choose love, because even though, yes it maybe may not last forever, yes for some it may be a feeble thing, but for me it is the blood in my veins.MuddVader
According to psychological research there are actually six types of love but taking it as it is most commonly used and in the way I think you're probably using it I would say that I would sacrifice sex for love.
How old are you? Just curious.I've lived without sex my whole life and I'm doing good so far; I don't think I could stand everyone hating (or at least not liking) me though.
kingdre
[QUOTE="kingdre"]How old are you? Just curious. I'm in my 20's. Ok it's not that old but I just don't make a big deal out of sex. If it happens, it happens but I won't go out of my way to make it happen.I've lived without sex my whole life and I'm doing good so far; I don't think I could stand everyone hating (or at least not liking) me though.
Lethalhazard
Well if ur with someone you love, there is like bjs and mutual masturbation And love is so awesome.Agent-Zero
wow, to the point :shock:
[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"][QUOTE="kingdre"]How old are you? Just curious. I'm in my 20's. Ok it's not that old but I just don't make a big deal out of sex. If it happens, it happens but I won't go out of my way to make it happen. Haha, I'm the same.I've lived without sex my whole life and I'm doing good so far; I don't think I could stand everyone hating (or at least not liking) me though.
kingdre
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