Man Abuses Wife, Faces Felony Charges

I'm not saying you always have to, personal time is needed. But, you should be completely open with your spouse, if you really do want to get married. Not saying that is how you should work you marriage, every person and others are different, but if you start throwing up signs and red flags that someone is breaking that trust, don't be surprised if the other investigates it, and they have every right to within reason.

Zyrokin

Only that isn't at all what you were saying. By making a statement like "her password is his" basically implies that you have no right to privacy in regards to your spouse. Sorry, but that b***s***.

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I'm not saying you always have to, personal time is needed. But, you should be completely open with your spouse, if you really do want to get married. Not saying that is how you should work you marriage, every person and others are different, but if you start throwing up signs and red flags that someone is breaking that trust, don't be surprised if the other investigates it, and they have every right to within reason.

worlock77

Only that isn't at all what you were saying. By making a statement like "her password is his" basically implies that you have no right to privacy in regards to your spouse. Sorry, but that b***s***.

Once again, don't get married.

I can't imagine how the prosecution has a case. The article says that the husband is being charged with unauthorized access to a computer to "acquire, alter, damage, delete or destroy property." He clearly has done nothing of the sort.

GabuEx

Marriage is a union between two people. Generally speaking, you share in all things in life, including credit card debt and so on. Unless you have something to hide, it really shouldn't be that big of a deal. So I can only conclude that you want to cheat, which denies the marriage union. Your life, your choice, just saying that is generally how it works.

Zyrokin

Sorry thats not how it works.. Every one has things they would never share with their family or spouse.. Privacy is a important thing in life that people would like protected dearly.. This isn't to suggest that we shouldn't share everything to our spouse or not, but it shouldn't be expected... Having a healthy relationship not only means you share and are open to one another.. But you respect each others privacy all the same..

Whats the problem? Adultry is not illegal.. Invading someones privacy especially something like their email with out permission IS.. Though the sentence seems a bit much, people are acting like its her that she be charged.. No.. I am sorry even in marriage you have the right to your own privacy.. There are things in life you will never share with ANY one, privacy is just as sacred as marriage in my book.. sSubZerOo

It is illegal, it is grounds for getting a divorce.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Whats the problem? Adultry is not illegal.. Invading someones privacy especially something like their email with out permission IS.. Though the sentence seems a bit much, people are acting like its her that she be charged.. No.. I am sorry even in marriage you have the right to your own privacy.. There are things in life you will never share with ANY one, privacy is just as sacred as marriage in my book.. Zyrokin

It is illegal, it is grounds for getting a divorce.

:lol: Adultry isn't illegal.. People are not imprisoned or chargedfor it.. Furthermore ANYTHING can be grounds for divorce.. Divorce is the legal destruction of marriage by one or both parties that can be done for ANY REASON imaginable.

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[QUOTE="Zyrokin"]

I'm not saying you always have to, personal time is needed. But, you should be completely open with your spouse, if you really do want to get married. Not saying that is how you should work you marriage, every person and others are different, but if you start throwing up signs and red flags that someone is breaking that trust, don't be surprised if the other investigates it, and they have every right to within reason.

Zyrokin

Only that isn't at all what you were saying. By making a statement like "her password is his" basically implies that you have no right to privacy in regards to your spouse. Sorry, but that b***s***.

Once again, don't get married.

Been married for several years. Now what do you say about that?

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Whats the problem? Adultry is not illegal.. Invading someones privacy especially something like their email with out permission IS.. Though the sentence seems a bit much, people are acting like its her that she be charged.. No.. I am sorry even in marriage you have the right to your own privacy.. There are things in life you will never share with ANY one, privacy is just as sacred as marriage in my book.. Zyrokin

It is illegal, it is grounds for getting a divorce.

Oh Jesus Christ, adultery is not goddamn illegal.

Good for you, not saying everyone doesn't deserve some privacy. But as far as email goes, on a join computer, tough luck. You can do whatever you want with your marriage if you and your spouse are ok with it, but if circumstances call for it, a spouse can investigate. Material assets are not part of privacy in my opinion.

And I looked it up. It is in fact illegal, criminally illegal in some states even though it is never prosecuted. Marriage is a legal contract, and adultery breaks that legal contract, hence making it illegal breach of contract that allows you to divorce(break that legal contract).

Good for you, not saying everyone doesn't deserve some privacy. But as far as email goes, on a join computer, tough luck. You can do whatever you want with your marriage if you and your spouse are ok with it, but if circumstances call for it, a spouse can investigate. Material assets are not part of privacy in my opinion.

Thats great, the law thankfully disagrees.

And I looked it up. It is in fact illegal, criminally illegal in some states even though it is never prosecuted.

Thats because they are remnents of earlier times of the United States.. They are not enforced any more.

Marriage is a legal contract, and adultery breaks that legal contract, hence making it illegal breach of contract that allows you to divorce(break that legal contract).

No it doesn't yet again.. Legal contract doesn't MEAN ANYTHING with this regard.. Marriage is voluntary, and it can be voluntary discharged for ANY reason... You can divorce your spouse if they ripped a very nasty fart for crying out loud.. FURTHERMORE there are married couples out there that practice what many would consider adultry freely and they are in fact perfectly fine with this.

Zyrokin

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Good for you, not saying everyone doesn't deserve some privacy. But as far as email goes, on a join computer, tough luck. You can do whatever you want with your marriage if you and your spouse are ok with it, but if circumstances call for it, a spouse can investigate. Material assets are not part of privacy in my opinion.

Thats great, the law thankfully disagrees.

And I looked it up. It is in fact illegal, criminally illegal in some states even though it is never prosecuted.

Thats because they are remnents of earlier times of the United States.. They are not enforced any more.

Marriage is a legal contract, and adultery breaks that legal contract, hence making it illegal breach of contract that allows you to divorce(break that legal contract).

No it doesn't yet again.. Legal contract doesn't MEAN ANYTHING with this regard.. Marriage is voluntary, and it can be voluntary discharged for ANY reason... You can divorce your spouse if they ripped a very nasty fart for crying out loud.. FURTHERMORE there are married couples out there that practice what many would consider adultry freely and they are in fact perfectly fine with this.

sSubZerOo

I disagree with you because I can. Want to get married?

Good for you, not saying everyone doesn't deserve some privacy. But as far as email goes, on a join computer, tough luck. You can do whatever you want with your marriage if you and your spouse are ok with it, but if circumstances call for it, a spouse can investigate. Material assets are not part of privacy in my opinion.

And I looked it up. It is in fact illegal, criminally illegal in some states even though it is never prosecuted. Marriage is a legal contract, and adultery breaks that legal contract, hence making it illegal breach of contract that allows you to divorce(break that legal contract).

Zyrokin

Again, no. My wife has no right to look into my e-mails. It is a private matter and does not mean that I am cheating or have something to hide. It could be a private exchange between a friend and I reminiscing a particular visit to "massage parlor" years before my wife and I met. It could be my sister confiding in me about something she doesn't necessarily want anyone else to know about. It could be an e-mail confirming an order from Amazon that I want to surprise my wife with. Whatever the case she has no inherent right to be reading it.

Sodomy is criminally illegal in some states. Doesn't mean it's enforcable. And if a law is unenforcable it effectively ceases to be a law. And as someone else pointed about, divorce can be over anything. Some people simply mutually decide that there's just too much difference between them and agree to dissolve the marriage union. That doesn't mean that amicable differences (which is used as a reason for divorce) is a criminal breach of contract. All divorce is is a dissolution of a marriage partnership for any reason at all.

[QUOTE="Zyrokin"]

Good for you, not saying everyone doesn't deserve some privacy. But as far as email goes, on a join computer, tough luck. You can do whatever you want with your marriage if you and your spouse are ok with it, but if circumstances call for it, a spouse can investigate. Material assets are not part of privacy in my opinion.

And I looked it up. It is in fact illegal, criminally illegal in some states even though it is never prosecuted. Marriage is a legal contract, and adultery breaks that legal contract, hence making it illegal breach of contract that allows you to divorce(break that legal contract).

worlock77

Again, no. My wife has no right to look into my e-mails. It is a private matter and does not mean that I am cheating or have something to hide. It could be a private exchange between a friend and I reminiscing a particular visit to "massage parlor" years before my wife and I met. It could be my sister confiding in me about something she doesn't necessarily want anyone else to know about. It could be an e-mail confirming an order from Amazon that I want to surprise my wife with. Whatever the case she has no inherent right to be reading it.

Sodomy is criminally illegal in some states. Doesn't mean it's enforcable. And if a law is unenforcable it effectively ceases to be a law. And as someone else pointed about, divorce can be over anything. Some people simply mutually decide that there's just too much difference between them and agree to dissolve the marriage union. That doesn't mean that amicable differences (which is used as a reason for divorce) is a criminal breach of contract. All divorce is is a dissolution of a marriage partnership for any reason at all.

Will you marry me too?

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[QUOTE="Zyrokin"]

Good for you, not saying everyone doesn't deserve some privacy. But as far as email goes, on a join computer, tough luck. You can do whatever you want with your marriage if you and your spouse are ok with it, but if circumstances call for it, a spouse can investigate. Material assets are not part of privacy in my opinion.

And I looked it up. It is in fact illegal, criminally illegal in some states even though it is never prosecuted. Marriage is a legal contract, and adultery breaks that legal contract, hence making it illegal breach of contract that allows you to divorce(break that legal contract).

Zyrokin

Again, no. My wife has no right to look into my e-mails. It is a private matter and does not mean that I am cheating or have something to hide. It could be a private exchange between a friend and I reminiscing a particular visit to "massage parlor" years before my wife and I met. It could be my sister confiding in me about something she doesn't necessarily want anyone else to know about. It could be an e-mail confirming an order from Amazon that I want to surprise my wife with. Whatever the case she has no inherent right to be reading it.

Sodomy is criminally illegal in some states. Doesn't mean it's enforcable. And if a law is unenforcable it effectively ceases to be a law. And as someone else pointed about, divorce can be over anything. Some people simply mutually decide that there's just too much difference between them and agree to dissolve the marriage union. That doesn't mean that amicable differences (which is used as a reason for divorce) is a criminal breach of contract. All divorce is is a dissolution of a marriage partnership for any reason at all.

Will you marry me too?

No.

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Again, no. My wife has no right to look into my e-mails. It is a private matter and does not mean that I am cheating or have something to hide. It could be a private exchange between a friend and I reminiscing a particular visit to "massage parlor" years before my wife and I met. It could be my sister confiding in me about something she doesn't necessarily want anyone else to know about. It could be an e-mail confirming an order from Amazon that I want to surprise my wife with. Whatever the case she has no inherent right to be reading it.

Sodomy is criminally illegal in some states. Doesn't mean it's enforcable. And if a law is unenforcable it effectively ceases to be a law. And as someone else pointed about, divorce can be over anything. Some people simply mutually decide that there's just too much difference between them and agree to dissolve the marriage union. That doesn't mean that amicable differences (which is used as a reason for divorce) is a criminal breach of contract. All divorce is is a dissolution of a marriage partnership for any reason at all.

worlock77

Will you marry me too?

No.

So angry, you need to branch out.

Wair he had a suspicion that his wife was cheating, and was right and that is a felony. Tell me I am misinterpreting this.

Wair he had a suspicion that his wife was cheating, and was right and that is a felony. Tell me I am misinterpreting this.

Mercenary848

No, the felony is that he accessed private information without her consent.

Next case: Husband charged with violating his wife's privacy after listening to his wife's adulterous messages on their answering machine

I'm not sure what people are saying here, as far as marriage goes you don't have a "right" to privacy. It's ultimately up to your partner to give you that right.

I'm not sure what people are saying here, as far as marriage goes you don't have a "right" to privacy. It's ultimately up to your partner to give you that right.

Espada12

You have a right to privacy. And no that right does not dissolve upon getting married.

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In a marriage all things are shared.. this should be thrown out soon.

Pirate700

That's one of the stupidest things I have ever read. Why does marriage suddenly mean you have no right to personal privacy? :|

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

I'm not sure what people are saying here, as far as marriage goes you don't have a "right" to privacy. It's ultimately up to your partner to give you that right.

worlock77

You have a right to privacy. And no that right does not dissolve upon getting married.

K I'll lock up my wife next time she opens that mail with my credit card statement in it.

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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

I'm not sure what people are saying here, as far as marriage goes you don't have a "right" to privacy. It's ultimately up to your partner to give you that right.

Espada12

You have a right to privacy. And no that right does not dissolve upon getting married.

K I'll lock up my wife next time she opens that mail with my credit card statement in it.

Please show me the court ruling that says you lose your right to privacy when you get married.

To those backing up this privacy law, what else could the man have done?luckyjj10

Confront his wife directly about his suspicions. Besides, from the article it sounds like he already knew his wife was having an affair.

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

You have a right to privacy. And no that right does not dissolve upon getting married.

worlock77

K I'll lock up my wife next time she opens that mail with my credit card statement in it.

Please show me the court ruling that says you lose your right to privacy when you get married.

Leon Weiss, who represents Walker in the criminal case, told the Law Blog that his client was wrongly charged under a statute that is aimed at the hacking of government computers.

"If the Michigan legislature had wanted to prohibit one spouse living under the same roof, with a shared computer, from reading a spouse's email, they could have constructed the statute to prohibit that," he said. "There is no real expectation of privacy in email," Weiss added. "It's too out there."

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/12/27/can-email-snooping-a-crime/

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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

K I'll lock up my wife next time she opens that mail with my credit card statement in it.

Espada12

Please show me the court ruling that says you lose your right to privacy when you get married.

Leon Weiss, who represents Walker in the criminal case, told the Law Blog that his client was wrongly charged under a statute that is aimed at the hacking of government computers.

"If the Michigan legislature had wanted to prohibit one spouse living under the same roof, with a shared computer, from reading a spouse's email, they could have constructed the statute to prohibit that," he said. "There is no real expectation of privacy in email," Weiss added. "It's too out there."

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/12/27/can-email-snooping-a-crime/

That's great and that's just the sort of thing I would expect the man's defense lawyer to say. Generally that's what lawyers do: they say things that support their client. Now show me the court ruling that says you lose your right to privacy when you get married.

That's great and that's just the sort of thing I would expect the man's defense lawyer to say. Generally that's what lawyers do: they say things that support their client. Now show me the court ruling that says you lose your right to privacy when you get married.

worlock77

Show me the court ruling that does? It's clear that the law does not intended to extend to those in marriage, and I cannot find any case rulings on this matter. Help your cause then, because the fact that the law itself is not aimed at married individuals helps my argument, but so far you haven't helped yours at all.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40820892/

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20026611-71.html

A man in Michigan used his Wife's password to access Her Gmail account, and out She was having an affair. He now stands accused of felony computer misuse charges. This is ridiculous.

The maximum penalty for computer misuse is five years. Clearly this pathetic man should be chemically neutered. Its absurd in American society the way womyn are confined and forced into humiliating roles by a corrupt imperialist patriarchy. Men are allowed to abuse and intimidate, and even when they are punished, as in this case, it is never severe enough.

Third Wave!!

Palantas

Are these serious comments? You think this man should have to be put in jail for more than 5 years?

To those backing up this privacy law, what else could the man have done?luckyjj10

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That's great and that's just the sort of thing I would expect the man's defense lawyer to say. Generally that's what lawyers do: they say things that support their client. Now show me the court ruling that says you lose your right to privacy when you get married.

Espada12

Show me the court ruling that does? It's clear that the law does not intended to extend to those in marriage, and I cannot find any case rulings on this matter. Help your cause then, because the fact that the law itself is not aimed at married individuals helps my argument, but so far you haven't helped yours at all.

The right to privacy has been held up by the courts, including the Supreme, time and time again. Now if you can prove that they have at some point ruled "except in the case of married persons and their spouse" then I'll admit I'm wrong here.

In a marriage all things are shared.. this should be thrown out soon.

Espada12

K I'll lock up my wife next time she opens that mail with my credit card statement in it.

Espada12

Opening up mail addressed to another person is a federal crime.

Press charges if you want to. Just don't tell me that the fact that you don't have any reason to doesn't mean that you CAN'T.

[QUOTE="luckyjj10"]To those backing up this privacy law, what else could the man have done?Lockedge

[QUOTE="Lockedge"][QUOTE="luckyjj10"]To those backing up this privacy law, what else could the man have done?weezyfb

The man knew of the affair already. So really, I'm not sure what reason he even had to go into her e-mails in the first place.

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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

I'm not sure what people are saying here, as far as marriage goes you don't have a "right" to privacy. It's ultimately up to your partner to give you that right.

Espada12

You have a right to privacy. And no that right does not dissolve upon getting married.

K I'll lock up my wife next time she opens that mail with my credit card statement in it.

[QUOTE="Lockedge"][QUOTE="luckyjj10"]To those backing up this privacy law, what else could the man have done?weezyfb

anyone who is supporting this case needs to have a reality check. Sure, people have a right to privacy which is not void upon marriage, but it is really not a big deal if your spouse reads your mail. It is annoying and a violation of trust, and ample reason for divorce, but definately not a legal case. Besides, women do this to men all the time and are applauded for exposing their big bad cheating husbands. Our culture is so biased towards females its rediculous.

She cheats on him and presses charges when he finds out? What a ****

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"]That's....strange. He discovers her having an affair, and gets charged. Although, it does beg the question. Why was he trying to gain accesss to her email address?l4dak47

He discovered the affair from her emails.

anyone who is supporting this case needs to have a reality check. Sure, people have a right to privacy which is not void upon marriage, but it is really not a big deal if your spouse reads your mail. It is annoying and a violation of trust, and ample reason for divorce, but definately not a legal case. Besides, women do this to men all the time and are applauded for exposing their big bad cheating husbands. Our culture is so biased towards females its rediculous.

Tokugawa77

You already admit that the woman's right to privacy wasn't voided upon getting married, and then say that "it isn't a big deal" that he violated that right?

WHAT?!

Hacking into her account potentially has SERIOUS repercussions, ESPECIALLY since the guy gaining access to the account illegally also has suspicions about the account that he's illegally gaining access to. The potential repercussions of that are Dead Serious.

Imagine a police officer just "knowing" that a particular person is a murderer or drug dealer, and then violating that suspect's rights by illegally sneaking into their home in order to gain evidence. That's serious ****, completely and utterly illegal.

If you admit that the woman still has a RIGHT to maintain a private account, which is NOT voided upon marriage, then breaking into her email account sort of IS a big ****ing deal. The only way it's NOT a big ****ing deal is if the woman whose account was illegally broken into doesn't have a problem with it. Obviously this woman DID have a problem with it, so it IS a big ****ing deal.

She cheats on him and presses charges when he finds out? What a ****

iAtrocious

No...she pressed charges when he violated her privacy and illegally gained access to her private account.

How the hell are people not seeing this? The guy isn't being charged with a criminal act because he found out that his wife was cheating on him.

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She cheats on him and presses charges when he finds out? What a ****

InEMplease

No...she pressed charges when he violated her privacy and illegally gained access to her private account.

How the hell are people not seeing this? The guy isn't being charged with a criminal act because he found out that his wife was cheating on him.

Leon Weiss, who represents Walker in the criminal case, told the Law Blog that his client was wrongly charged under a statute that is aimed at the hacking of government computers.

"If the Michigan legislature had wanted to prohibit one spouse living under the same roof, with a shared computer, from reading a spouse's email, they could have constructed the statute to prohibit that," he said. "There is no real expectation of privacy in email," Weiss added. "It's too out there."

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/12/27/can-email-snooping-a-crime/

He isnt being charged at all.

Uh...you intend to demonstrate that he isn't being charged by deliberately giving me a link which says that he IS being charged?

Uh...okay, man.