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#1 gomer69
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http://www.metafilter.com/22613/Man-films-himself-eating-dead-baby-and-calls-it

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#3 Murj
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I'm so glad that wasn't a link to the video. I doubt I want to throw up before work.

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#4 mrbojangles25
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at least it was a dead baby.

no, wait...that doesnt make it any better. Did he kill the baby? Or did he just find it in a ditch or something?

I dont really know what to say. I keep trying to make it "ok" and I cant :|

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#5 _en1gma_
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That's...unsettling.
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#6 Gaming-Planet
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Crazy people these days.

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#7 194197844077667059316682358889
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Hmmm, the Yahoo link given on that site doesn't work; suspicious?
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#8 Lucifericus
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1. Cannibalism
2. Baby
3. Mental illness

Nope not art.

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#9 Gaming-Planet
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

at least it was a dead baby.

no, wait...that doesnt make it any better. Did he kill the baby? Or did he just find it in a ditch or something?

I dont really know what to say. I keep trying to make it "ok" and I cant :|

It was nicely roasted and marinated. :P Happy Thanksgiving
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#10 Shad0ki11
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Still doesn't beat the guy who drank paint until he died as his final live art piece.

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#11 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

at least it was a dead baby.

no, wait...that doesnt make it any better. Did he kill the baby? Or did he just find it in a ditch or something?

I dont really know what to say. I keep trying to make it "ok" and I cant :|

Gaming-Planet

It was nicely roasted and marinated. :P Happy Thanksgiving

oh well at least it was in good taste and properly cooked.

I hate seeing good food in inept hands.

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#12 Lucifericus
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Still doesn't beat the guy who drank paint until he died as his final live art piece.

Shad0ki11
That is not art. That is suicide. God damn people these days don't even know what art is.
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#13 Yandere
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Why no video?

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#14 Desulated
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I have one comment for this.

Oh gawd. This guy has issues.

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#15 Shad0ki11
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1. Cannibalism
2. Baby
3. Mental illness

Nope not art.

Lucifericus

What's your definition of art?

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#16 gomer69
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Why no video?

Yandere
you can find the video if u really want, i m not gonna post it though.
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#17 194197844077667059316682358889
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Why no video?

Yandere
Why no credible source?
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#18 coolkid93
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omg that is nasty. :? What is wrong with people?
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#19 Shad0ki11
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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Still doesn't beat the guy who drank paint until he died as his final live art piece.

Lucifericus

That is not art. That is suicide. God damn people these days don't even know what art is.

I take it you're not familiar with performance art. ¬_¬

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#20 Yandere
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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

Why no video?

gomer69

you can find the video if u really want, i m not gonna post it though.

Should I google search it?

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#21 gomer69
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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

Why no video?

xaos
Why no credible source?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/dec/30/arts.artsandhumanities
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#22 Sword-Demon
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[QUOTE="Gaming-Planet"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

at least it was a dead baby.

no, wait...that doesnt make it any better. Did he kill the baby? Or did he just find it in a ditch or something?

I dont really know what to say. I keep trying to make it "ok" and I cant :|

It was nicely roasted and marinated. :P Happy Thanksgiving

i feel bad for laughing..
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#23 chesterocks7
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If this refers to the picturer I've seen many times online it's fake. An oriental guy did an art exhibit eating like a duck leg or something with a doll head attached to it. The photo wasn't great quality so it looked believable enough. Def not real though.

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#24 Lucifericus
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[QUOTE="Lucifericus"]

1. Cannibalism
2. Baby
3. Mental illness

Nope not art.

Shad0ki11

What's your definition of art?

Technically it's art because he made a video and it probably instills some emotion or feeling into the viewer. I just refuse to acknowledge it as art personally. It's ****ing sick.

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#25 gomer69
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[QUOTE="gomer69"][QUOTE="Yandere"]

Why no video?

Yandere

you can find the video if u really want, i m not gonna post it though.

Should I google search it?

sure and tell me what happens lol...
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Ya, that's odd.
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#27 Lucifericus
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[QUOTE="Lucifericus"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Still doesn't beat the guy who drank paint until he died as his final live art piece.

Shad0ki11

That is not art. That is suicide. God damn people these days don't even know what art is.

I take it you're not familiar with performance art. ¬_¬

I guess everything is art because everything is essentially a performance. All you have to do is call it art. "look at me guys, I'm going to jump off of my house and land on my head. Witness the art behind it!!!!"

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#28 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Still doesn't beat the guy who drank paint until he died as his final live art piece.

Lucifericus

That is not art. That is suicide. God damn people these days don't even know what art is.

yea, art is a lot of things...depressing, happy, funny, interesting, stupid, thought provoking....but art is always beautiful.

nothing is beautiful about killing yourself, or eating a baby. Thats fugly

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#29 Yandere
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Oh, I've seen this on gore sites before.

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#30 chesterocks7
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Ok ppl no need to get your panties in a bunch:

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/cannibal/fetus.asp

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Well, no culinary artist would work with anything but fresh meat.
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#32 194197844077667059316682358889
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Yandere"]

Why no video?

gomer69
Why no credible source?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/dec/30/arts.artsandhumanities

Oh that guy; Yeah, not so much
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#33 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Still doesn't beat the guy who drank paint until he died as his final live art piece.

Lucifericus

That is not art. That is suicide. God damn people these days don't even know what art is.

Perhaps you'd like to educate me on what art is?

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#34 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

[QUOTE="Lucifericus"] That is not art. That is suicide. God damn people these days don't even know what art is. Lucifericus

I take it you're not familiar with performance art. ¬_¬

I guess everything is art because everything is essentially a performance. All you have to do is call it art. "look at me guys, I'm going to jump off of my house and land on my head. Witness the art behind it!!!!"

You still haven't even attempted to state why it's not art, or attempted to provide any criteria for what makes something art.

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#35 spawnassasin
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i bet theres some art d-bag out there thats thinking

"MY GOD THIS MANS A GENIUS!!!"

but seriously WTF man

thats just not cool

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#36 3DayFinisher
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Well that first link has a link to rotten.com where there's some "lovely" photos. I can't tell if they're real or not.
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[QUOTE="Lucifericus"]

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

I take it you're not familiar with performance art. ¬_¬

MrGeezer

I guess everything is art because everything is essentially a performance. All you have to do is call it art. "look at me guys, I'm going to jump off of my house and land on my head. Witness the art behind it!!!!"

You still haven't even attempted to state why it's not art, or attempted to provide any criteria for what makes something art.

This argument = no. Don't try it please, Mr. Geezer. Please
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#38 Pvt_r3d
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Here is the link to the picture http://poetry.rotten.com/infantiphagia/taboo2.html
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#39 MrGeezer
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This argument = no. Don't try it please, Mr. Geezer. Pleasecowplayinghalo

I'm absolutely doing it.

If one is to state that X is not Y, then one should be able to state what Y is, and what precludes X from qualifying as Y.

Very few (if any) people here have actually made an ATTEMPT to state what art is. And that is unsettling. Because before you can state that something is not Y, then you'd have to actually DEFINE Y first. Right?

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[QUOTE="cowplayinghalo"]This argument = no. Don't try it please, Mr. Geezer. PleaseMrGeezer

I'm absolutely doing it.

If one is to state that X is not Y, then one should be able to state what Y is, and what precludes X from qualifying as Y.

Very few (if any) people here have actually made an ATTEMPT to state what art is. And that is unsettling. Because before you can state that something is not Y, then you'd have to actually DEFINE Y first. Right?

Dude... I don't even know where to start. I get what you're saying but some things just shouldn't be argued. I'm going to go kill someone and slice them open to expose their organs. I'm making art!
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#41 Fizzman
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at least it was a dead baby.

no, wait...that doesnt make it any better. Did he kill the baby? Or did he just find it in a ditch or something?

I dont really know what to say. I keep trying to make it "ok" and I cant :|

mrbojangles25

How many dead babies do you usually find in a ditch?

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#42 krazykillaz
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Interesting. I take it the baby died of natural causes. Personally, I would rather not watch the video, but technically no one was harmed unless he caught some kind of disease after eating it.
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#43 3DayFinisher
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I'm absolutely doing it.

If one is to state that X is not Y, then one should be able to state what Y is, and what precludes X from qualifying as Y.

Very few (if any) people here have actually made an ATTEMPT to state what art is. And that is unsettling. Because before you can state that something is not Y, then you'd have to actually DEFINE Y first. Right?

MrGeezer
Ok, well my basic definition of art is the creation of a performance, painting/picture or object that is made to express or represent the artist's feelings, thoughts, theories, and visions. It is often a compromise if they may not be able to express these in words alone, as poetry is also an art form itself. I haven't found any solid reasoning as to why he's calling this art, but I guess it won't be revealed until the programme is aired, so I suppose that even if you don't like it, you can't disqualify this as art, even if it is as discomforting and unsettling as it sounds. And as always it's heavily subjected to opinion.
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#44 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="cowplayinghalo"]This argument = no. Don't try it please, Mr. Geezer. Pleasecowplayinghalo

I'm absolutely doing it.

If one is to state that X is not Y, then one should be able to state what Y is, and what precludes X from qualifying as Y.

Very few (if any) people here have actually made an ATTEMPT to state what art is. And that is unsettling. Because before you can state that something is not Y, then you'd have to actually DEFINE Y first. Right?

Dude... I don't even know where to start. I get what you're saying but some things just shouldn't be argued. I'm going to go kill someone and slice them open to expose their organs. I'm making art!

Since you haven't even defined art as necesarily being legal, then maybe it IS art.

Or maybe not. I don't know.

But can SOMEONE please try to start trying to define what art even IS, before dismissing stuff as not being art?

Before you start trying to state that something is not X, then you first have to have an understanding of what X is. There's not much wiggle room here. If we can state that eating dead babies is NOT art, then more people should be stating WHY it is not art.

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#45 Lucifericus
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[QUOTE="cowplayinghalo"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

I'm absolutely doing it.

If one is to state that X is not Y, then one should be able to state what Y is, and what precludes X from qualifying as Y.

Very few (if any) people here have actually made an ATTEMPT to state what art is. And that is unsettling. Because before you can state that something is not Y, then you'd have to actually DEFINE Y first. Right?

MrGeezer

Dude... I don't even know where to start. I get what you're saying but some things just shouldn't be argued. I'm going to go kill someone and slice them open to expose their organs. I'm making art!

Since you haven't even defined art as necesarily being legal, then maybe it IS art.

Or maybe not. I don't know.

But can SOMEONE please try to start trying to define what art even IS, before dismissing stuff as not being art?

Before you start trying to state that something is not X, then you first have to have an understanding of what X is. There's not much wiggle room here. If we can state that eating dead babies is NOT art, then more people should be stating WHY it is not art.

Earlier in this thread I stated that it was art, I just personally don't view it as art. Art is subjective. To him it's art, to someone else it may be art. To me it's not art, it's cannibalism and as for paint eater, that's suicide. Certain types of art aren't considered universal. We may regard almost all music, drawings, paintings, poetry as art even if we don't like it. But some things such as this are subjective to being labeled as an art.

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Here is the link to the picture http://poetry.rotten.com/infantiphagia/taboo2.htmlPvt_r3d

That didn't look nearly as bad as I thought it'd be. I expected blood and stuff.

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#48 BiancaDK
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It´s definitely art.

I feel slightly nausiated just thinking about it, but it´s still art nonetheless. :lol:

Question if anything should be; is this good art? :P

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#49 cowplayinghalo
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="cowplayinghalo"] Dude... I don't even know where to start. I get what you're saying but some things just shouldn't be argued. I'm going to go kill someone and slice them open to expose their organs. I'm making art!Lucifericus

Since you haven't even defined art as necesarily being legal, then maybe it IS art.

Or maybe not. I don't know.

But can SOMEONE please try to start trying to define what art even IS, before dismissing stuff as not being art?

Before you start trying to state that something is not X, then you first have to have an understanding of what X is. There's not much wiggle room here. If we can state that eating dead babies is NOT art, then more people should be stating WHY it is not art.

Earlier in this thread I stated that it was art, I just personally don't view it as art. Art is subjective. To him it's art, to someone else it may be art. To me it's not art, it's cannibalism and as for paint eater, that's suicide.

You know, I thought the blood writing on the walls that Charles Manson did was very deep and meaningful. Also, the holocaust was a great expression of feeling... seriously, define art how you want; there is no definition. Anything to do with feeling is art, which is everything. Personally, I don't think eating a baby is art, it's providing nutrients to the "artist". When you (not you specifically, Mr. Geezer) try to claim that anything could be art, you get into the realm of subjectivity, and everything turns in to a circular argument.
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="cowplayinghalo"] Dude... I don't even know where to start. I get what you're saying but some things just shouldn't be argued. I'm going to go kill someone and slice them open to expose their organs. I'm making art!Lucifericus

Since you haven't even defined art as necesarily being legal, then maybe it IS art.

Or maybe not. I don't know.

But can SOMEONE please try to start trying to define what art even IS, before dismissing stuff as not being art?

Before you start trying to state that something is not X, then you first have to have an understanding of what X is. There's not much wiggle room here. If we can state that eating dead babies is NOT art, then more people should be stating WHY it is not art.

Earlier in this thread I stated that it was art, I just personally don't view it as art. Art is subjective. To him it's art, to someone else it may be art. To me it's not art, it's cannibalism and as for paint eater, that's suicide.

Art, like beauty, lies in the eye of the beholder.