Mandatory execution for all felonies regardless of age.

Its the most practical and efficient method of punishment imo. Costs society the least amount of time, money, and work.

And dont start arguing about the philosophies of whether or not a 6 yr old knows what hes doing, thats just a waste of time and doesnt matter, just put a bullet in his head and continue on with your day. When you have weeds in your lawn you dont dress them up to make them look pretty, you rip them out and throw them away. problem solved

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Its the most practical and efficient method of punishment imo. Costs society the least amount of time, money, and work.

And dont start arguing about the philosophies of whether or not a 6 yr old knows what hes doing, thats just a waste of time and doesnt matter, just put a bullet in his head and continue on with your day.

discuss

thisoldman

Kill this thread with fire.

Its the most practical and efficient method of punishment imo. Costs society the least amount of time, money, and work.

And dont start arguing about the philosophies of whether or not a 6 yr old knows what hes doing, thats just a waste of time and doesnt matter, just put a bullet in his head and continue on with your day.

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thisoldman

well on the upside it would keep the world popultion down

Will you be doing the execution? you sound eager.KiIIyou

no im not being sarcastic. and what is immoral and indignified is spending $20,000 a year on each criminal in jail. Yes they get out and eventually contribute to society but the taxdollars that would be saved are far greater than what they could contribute in monetary terms, espcecialy considering 2/3 felons go back to prison. How much does a .22 bullet cost? a few cents.

If u crunch the numbers you will see execution is much more efficient.

[QUOTE="KiIIyou"]Will you be doing the execution? you sound eager.nintendo_fan675

BUT THAT GIVES ME 2 DAYS TO LIVE!!,oh man......

Because murder is on the same level as battery which is on the same level as robbery which is on the same level as, oh, say...bigamy or bribery.:roll: There are different levels of felonies, Clas$ A through clas$ J. To treat them all with the same penalty is simply unjust.

Edit: I cannot believe the word clas$ is censored. :|

Because murder is on the same level as battery which is on the same level as robbery which is on the same level as, oh, say...bigamy or bribery.:roll: There are different levels of felonies, Clas$ A through clas$ J. To treat them all with the same penalty is simply unjust.

Edit: I cannot believe the word clas$ is censored. :|

Panzer-schreck

thats the point. how many briberys or bigamys or possession of weed offenses would there be under such a system? or rape? or robbery? very low or none considering if you do it you die regardless of what it is.

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National Socialism is so1932.

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I said nothing about socialism or fascism or anything. We could have even more freedoms than we have now because the crime rate would be effectively 0. Live, laugh, and have fun because its a free country. But do anything bad and you die. Other than that, enjoy yourself.

no im not being sarcastic. and what is immoral and indignified is spending $20,000 a year on each criminal in jail. Yes they get out and eventually contribute to society but the taxdollars that would be saved are far greater than what they could contribute in monetary terms, espcecialy considering 2/3 felons go back to prison.thisoldman

So... if your son happens to drink under the legal age, you're gonna put a bullet through his head? Cuz, you know, that is a felony. And in case you didn't know it yet, bullets cost money too ;)

[QUOTE="Panzer-schreck"]

Because murder is on the same level as battery which is on the same level as robbery which is on the same level as, oh, say...bigamy or bribery.:roll: There are different levels of felonies, Clas$ A through clas$ J. To treat them all with the same penalty is simply unjust.

Edit: I cannot believe the word clas$ is censored. :|

thisoldman

thats the point. how many briberys or bigamys or possession of weed offenses would there be under such a system? or rape? or robbery? very low or none considering if you do it you die regardless of what it is.

[QUOTE="Panzer-schreck"]

Because murder is on the same level as battery which is on the same level as robbery which is on the same level as, oh, say...bigamy or bribery.:roll: There are different levels of felonies, Clas$ A through clas$ J. To treat them all with the same penalty is simply unjust.

Edit: I cannot believe the word clas$ is censored. :|

thisoldman

thats the point. how many briberys or bigamys or possession of weed offenses would there be under such a system? or rape? or robbery? very low or none considering if you do it you die regardless of what it is.

Have you ever considered the Ethos point of view? We live in a sad world if Logos is the only thing us as humans can think with.aaaaarrrrggggg

ethos is all in the mind, a "realm" we create in our collective consciousness. on top of that its all relative to the individual which makes it entirely irrelevant in law imo.

no im not being sarcastic. and what is immoral and indignified is spending $20,000 a year on each criminal in jail. Yes they get out and eventually contribute to society but the taxdollars that would be saved are far greater than what they could contribute in monetary terms, espcecialy considering 2/3 felons go back to prison. How much does a .22 bullet cost? a few cents.

If u crunch the numbers you will see execution is much more efficient.

thisoldman

oh crap you were being serious? in thatcase im going with the guy who said you should'nt be allowed to concieve ideas

Actually, my previous reply was meant to be ratther sarcastic, but I'll get serious this time around...

If a homeless person, who through no fault of his own, became homeless, and he has no choice but to steal food, or money to buy food, to get by, how would you justify executing that person?

Person gets laid off because the company is down sizing, tries desperately to find a new job, but can't. Can't get any help from anyone, so ends up gettign kicked out of his house and is forced to live on the street, without a dime in his name. And because of your idiot law, he'll get executed for stealing some food to stay alive. So not wanting to die that way, he keeps trying to find help. But alas, he keeps ending up empty handed, until one day, he's found lying dead in the gutter from starvation, and possible dehydration. Who's to blame for that man's death? You, for creating such a ridiculous law? Or perhaps the goverment, for failing to give that man the support he needed? Or maybe, maybe even his family for not offering him help when he needed it. If you ask me, all three are to blame. All three of you would be to blame for that man's death, so I guess we can just put a bullet through your head then as well, huh?

Actually, my previous reply was meant to be ratther sarcastic, but I'll get serious this time around...

If a homeless person, who through no fault of his own, became homeless, and he has no choice but to steal food, or money to buy food, to get by, how would you justify executing that person?

Person gets laid off because the company is down sizing, tries desperately to find a new job, but can't. Can't get any help from anyone, so ends up gettign kicked out of his house and is forced to live on the street, without a dime in his name. And because of your idiot law, he'll get executed for stealing some food to stay alive. So not wanting to die that way, he keeps trying to find help. But alas, he keeps ending up empty handed, until one day, he's found lying dead in the gutter from starvation, and possible dehydration. Who's to blame for that man's death? You, for creating such a ridiculous law? Or perhaps the goverment, for failing to give that man the support he needed? Or maybe, maybe even his family for not offering him help when he needed it. If you ask me, all three are to blame. All three of you would be to blame for that man's death, so I guess we can just put a bullet through your head then as well, huh?

Kazona

Capitalism is the most efficient and natural societal system of governing and practice in which poverty is an inevitable by-product. Nobody is to blame, dead homless people are written off as the cost of managing society.

[QUOTE="Panzer-schreck"]

Because murder is on the same level as battery which is on the same level as robbery which is on the same level as, oh, say...bigamy or bribery.:roll: There are different levels of felonies, Clas$ A through clas$ J. To treat them all with the same penalty is simply unjust.

Edit: I cannot believe the word clas$ is censored. :|

thisoldman

thats the point. how many briberys or bigamys or possession of weed offenses would there be under such a system? or rape? or robbery? very low or none considering if you do it you die regardless of what it is.

If we were to plot efficiency vs justice, we'd find that the graph is linear (negative slope). Both the x and y intercepts are not beneficial to society. Where the optimal point is can be a debate topic, but it's clearly detrimental to have it at either intercept.

[QUOTE="Kazona"]

Actually, my previous reply was meant to be ratther sarcastic, but I'll get serious this time around...

If a homeless person, who through no fault of his own, became homeless, and he has no choice but to steal food, or money to buy food, to get by, how would you justify executing that person?

Person gets laid off because the company is down sizing, tries desperately to find a new job, but can't. Can't get any help from anyone, so ends up gettign kicked out of his house and is forced to live on the street, without a dime in his name. And because of your idiot law, he'll get executed for stealing some food to stay alive. So not wanting to die that way, he keeps trying to find help. But alas, he keeps ending up empty handed, until one day, he's found lying dead in the gutter from starvation, and possible dehydration. Who's to blame for that man's death? You, for creating such a ridiculous law? Or perhaps the goverment, for failing to give that man the support he needed? Or maybe, maybe even his family for not offering him help when he needed it. If you ask me, all three are to blame. All three of you would be to blame for that man's death, so I guess we can just put a bullet through your head then as well, huh?

thisoldman

Capitalism is the most efficient and natural societal system of governing and practice in which poverty is an inevitable by-product. Nobody is to blame, dead homless people are written off as the cost of managing society.

So basically the weight of your wallet outweighs that of a human life? You, my friend, are a sad excuse for a human being.

Edit: ANd just so you know, capatalism is the very reason that person wound up dead. I seriously doubt you have any proof to backup your claims that capatalism is the most efficent societal system, let alone the most natural one. And considering that homeless people wind up dead because of that very system, I seriously doubt it's the most efficient.

[QUOTE="thisoldman"][QUOTE="Kazona"]

Actually, my previous reply was meant to be ratther sarcastic, but I'll get serious this time around...

If a homeless person, who through no fault of his own, became homeless, and he has no choice but to steal food, or money to buy food, to get by, how would you justify executing that person?

Person gets laid off because the company is down sizing, tries desperately to find a new job, but can't. Can't get any help from anyone, so ends up gettign kicked out of his house and is forced to live on the street, without a dime in his name. And because of your idiot law, he'll get executed for stealing some food to stay alive. So not wanting to die that way, he keeps trying to find help. But alas, he keeps ending up empty handed, until one day, he's found lying dead in the gutter from starvation, and possible dehydration. Who's to blame for that man's death? You, for creating such a ridiculous law? Or perhaps the goverment, for failing to give that man the support he needed? Or maybe, maybe even his family for not offering him help when he needed it. If you ask me, all three are to blame. All three of you would be to blame for that man's death, so I guess we can just put a bullet through your head then as well, huh?

Kazona

Capitalism is the most efficient and natural societal system of governing and practice in which poverty is an inevitable by-product. Nobody is to blame, dead homless people are written off as the cost of managing society.

So basically the weight of your wallet outweighs that of a human life? You, my friend, are a sad excuse for a human being.

Edit: ANd just so you know, capatalism is the very reason that person wound up dead. I seriously doubt you have any proof to backup your claims that capatalism is the most efficent societal system, let alone the most natural one. And considering that homeless people wind up dead because of that very system, I seriously doubt it's the most efficient.

the human sociological condition naturally gravitates towards capitalism. applying any definition of capitalism to human interpersonal behavior shows u this. ya capitalism is the reason for his death.

dude, use your brain for a second. to SOCIETY what is 1 human life worth? 1 human life is worth the total amount of $ that individual will inject into the society in which they live whether it be through labor, taxes, love, kissing babies which is all +$, positive gain, and murder, pinching babies, robbery, depriving others of stuffs, etc. which is all -$, negative "gain" aka loss.

capitalism is the economic and social system in which individuals seek to maximize profits or "positives" for themselves and minimize pain/loss or "negatives."

and

people want to be as happy as possible, and as least unhappy as possible.

see the relation?

Its the most practical and efficient method of punishment imo. Costs society the least amount of time, money, and work.

And dont start arguing about the philosophies of whether or not a 6 yr old knows what hes doing, thats just a waste of time and doesnt matter, just put a bullet in his head and continue on with your day. When you have weeds in your lawn you dont dress them up to make them look pretty, you rip them out and throw them away. problem solved

discuss

thisoldman

only someone with a death wish, or someone whose mind is clouded by cognitive distortions, or a fool who is unconcerned with his own life would advocate such a thing. self-preservation dictates that you don't relinquish to others the authority to kill you. think about it. you aren't the king, are you? you don't make the laws, do you? when your favorite vice or presently legal activity is suddenly declared by your rulers to be a felony, what will you do?

there is really nothing to discuss here.

Because murder is on the same level as battery which is on the same level as robbery which is on the same level as, oh, say...bigamy or bribery.:roll: There are different levels of felonies, Clas$ A through clas$ J. To treat them all with the same penalty is simply unjust.

Edit: I cannot believe the word clas$ is censored. :|

Panzer-schreck

It's cencored because it could cause problems with GS's HTML coding.

[QUOTE="thisoldman"]

Its the most practical and efficient method of punishment imo. Costs society the least amount of time, money, and work.

And dont start arguing about the philosophies of whether or not a 6 yr old knows what hes doing, thats just a waste of time and doesnt matter, just put a bullet in his head and continue on with your day. When you have weeds in your lawn you dont dress them up to make them look pretty, you rip them out and throw them away. problem solved

discuss

giton

only someone with a death wish, or someone whose mind is clouded by cognitive distortions, or a fool who is unconcerned with his own life would advocate such a thing. self-preservation dictates that you don't relinquish to others the authority to kill you. think about it. you aren't the king, are you? you don't make the laws, do you? when your favorite vice or presently legal activity is suddenly declared by your rulers to be a felony, what will you do?

there is really nothing to discuss here.

then il have to stop doing it or il be shotted. such is life.

[QUOTE="thisoldman"]

Its the most practical and efficient method of punishment imo. Costs society the least amount of time, money, and work.

And dont start arguing about the philosophies of whether or not a 6 yr old knows what hes doing, thats just a waste of time and doesnt matter, just put a bullet in his head and continue on with your day. When you have weeds in your lawn you dont dress them up to make them look pretty, you rip them out and throw them away. problem solved

discuss

giton

only someone with a death wish, or someone whose mind is clouded by cognitive distortions, or a fool who is unconcerned with his own life would advocate such a thing. self-preservation dictates that you don't relinquish to others the authority to kill you. think about it. you aren't the king, are you? you don't make the laws, do you? when your favorite vice or presently legal activity is suddenly declared by your rulers to be a felony, what will you do?

there is really nothing to discuss here.

then il have to stop doing it or il be shotted. such is life.

[QUOTE="thisoldman"]

Its the most practical and efficient method of punishment imo. Costs society the least amount of time, money, and work.

And dont start arguing about the philosophies of whether or not a 6 yr old knows what hes doing, thats just a waste of time and doesnt matter, just put a bullet in his head and continue on with your day. When you have weeds in your lawn you dont dress them up to make them look pretty, you rip them out and throw them away. problem solved

discuss

giton

only someone with a death wish, or someone whose mind is clouded by cognitive distortions, or a fool who is unconcerned with his own life would advocate such a thing. self-preservation dictates that you don't relinquish to others the authority to kill you. think about it. you aren't the king, are you? you don't make the laws, do you? when your favorite vice or presently legal activity is suddenly declared by your rulers to be a felony, what will you do?

there is really nothing to discuss here.

notice i said this will enable thelegalization of many more vices

[QUOTE="thisoldman"]

Its the most practical and efficient method of punishment imo. Costs society the least amount of time, money, and work.

And dont start arguing about the philosophies of whether or not a 6 yr old knows what hes doing, thats just a waste of time and doesnt matter, just put a bullet in his head and continue on with your day. When you have weeds in your lawn you dont dress them up to make them look pretty, you rip them out and throw them away. problem solved

discuss

giton

only someone with a death wish, or someone whose mind is clouded by cognitive distortions, or a fool who is unconcerned with his own life would advocate such a thing. self-preservation dictates that you don't relinquish to others the authority to kill you. think about it. you aren't the king, are you? you don't make the laws, do you? when your favorite vice or presently legal activity is suddenly declared by your rulers to be a felony, what will you do?

there is really nothing to discuss here.

notice i said this will enable thelegalization of many more vices

This kind of thing was done in Wolrd War Z (the book).... then again, the situation was alot different >_>Sir_Marwin

This kind of thing was done in Wolrd War Z (the book).... then again, the situation was alot different >_>Sir_Marwin

[QUOTE="giton"][QUOTE="thisoldman"]

Its the most practical and efficient method of punishment imo. Costs society the least amount of time, money, and work.

And dont start arguing about the philosophies of whether or not a 6 yr old knows what hes doing, thats just a waste of time and doesnt matter, just put a bullet in his head and continue on with your day. When you have weeds in your lawn you dont dress them up to make them look pretty, you rip them out and throw them away. problem solved

discuss

thisoldman

only someone with a death wish, or someone whose mind is clouded by cognitive distortions, or a fool who is unconcerned with his own life would advocate such a thing. self-preservation dictates that you don't relinquish to others the authority to kill you. think about it. you aren't the king, are you? you don't make the laws, do you? when your favorite vice or presently legal activity is suddenly declared by your rulers to be a felony, what will you do?

there is really nothing to discuss here.

then il have to stop doing it or il be shotted. such is life.

so you are happy to be a slave. i am a different species from you. i am human. you are sheeple.

You're a fool, what do you spend every day in you're mother basement or something? nobodys 100% never going to commit a crime, a felony can range from many things.mark4091

no im a 19 yr old college student that sees ripe execution opportunities every day and is saddened by their passing

You're a fool, what do you spend every day in you're mother basement or something? nobodys 100% never going to commit a crime, a felony can range from many things.mark4091

i said virtually no crime. sure the odd person will but they get shot in the fayse and its gg nore

You're a fool, what do you spend every day in you're mother basement or something? nobodys 100% never going to commit a crime, a felony can range from many things.mark4091

i said virtually no crime. sure the odd person will but they get shot in the fayse and its gg nore

You're a fool, what do you spend every day in you're mother basement or something? nobodys 100% never going to commit a crime, a felony can range from many things.mark4091

i said virtually no crime. sure the odd person will but they get shot in the fayse and its gg nore

[QUOTE="aaaaarrrrggggg"]Have you ever considered the Ethos point of view? We live in a sad world if Logos is the only thing us as humans can think with.thisoldman

ethos is all in the mind, a "realm" we create in our collective consciousness. on top of that its all relative to the individual which makes it entirely irrelevant in law imo.

Whether morals are relative or not, i think that most people would oppose the death sentence. Completely disregarding the mental state of the people isn't more effective, it's just a more linear perspective.