Mandatory execution for all felonies regardless of age.

Yeah, killing people needlessly rather than eradicating the base of the problem definitely sounds like a reasonable plan...Fortier

crime can only occur if there is a criminal to perpetrate it. strict punishment will ensure that these "criminals" will never materialize and if they do they get shot in the fayse and its ggnore

[QUOTE="Fortier"]Yeah, killing people needlessly rather than eradicating the base of the problem definitely sounds like a reasonable plan...thisoldman

crime can only occur if there is a criminal to perpetrate it. strict punishment will ensure that these "criminals" will never materialize and if they do they get shot in the fayse and its ggnore

People don't turn into criminals just because our punishments aren't strict enough. :|

And I really hope you spelled "face" wrong on purpose...

I'm getting that book! :o
MattUD1

[QUOTE="MattUD1"]I'm getting that book! :o
Sir_Marwin

Are you a Legalist by any chance? Because I HONESTLY think you are taking that philosphy to an extreme.MattUD1

i never knew there was a such thing as a legalist until someone mentioned it on page 1. im not big on philosophy but i consider myself a nihilist, libertarian, and libertine.

[QUOTE="mark4091"]You're a fool, what do you spend every day in you're mother basement or something? nobodys 100% never going to commit a crime, a felony can range from many things.thisoldman

no im a 19 yr old college student that sees ripe execution opportunities every day and is saddened by their passing

are you islamic? christian reconstructionist? sharia law operates the way you describe. you could move to a country where sharia law holds sway. of course, you will be less free there than you are here, but i doubt that would trouble an obedient slave.

what do you trust more? the make-believe law of an imaginary being, or the corrupt justice of the political ruling class? more importanly, why would you trust either? you're not a political science or law major in college are you? planning to be a district attorney maybe? state attorney general? a murderer like GWB who signed the death warrants of 150 people in texas during his vile reign as governor there?

[QUOTE="mark4091"]You're a fool, what do you spend every day in you're mother basement or something? nobodys 100% never going to commit a crime, a felony can range from many things.thisoldman

no im a 19 yr old college student that sees ripe execution opportunities every day and is saddened by their passing

LOL WUT?

we could probably report this message to the police. It's considered being a homicidal threat to the school he's at. Joke or not.

[QUOTE="thisoldman"]

[QUOTE="mark4091"]You're a fool, what do you spend every day in you're mother basement or something? nobodys 100% never going to commit a crime, a felony can range from many things.giton

no im a 19 yr old college student that sees ripe execution opportunities every day and is saddened by their passing

are you islamic? christian reconstructionist? sharia law operates the way you describe. you could move to a country where sharia law holds sway. of course, you will be less free there than you are here, but i doubt that would trouble an obedient slave.

what do you trust more? the make-believe law of an imaginary being, or the corrupt justice of the political ruling class? more importanly, why would you trust either? you're not a political science or law major in college are you? planning to be a district attorney maybe? state attorney general? a murderer like GWB who signed the death warrants of 150 people in texas during his vile reign as governor there?

keep america free, infact make it even more free, tear down these laws set up by these bible thumpers, turn america into holland imo. but make execution the only punishment for breaking the few laws that do remain.

[QUOTE="thisoldman"]

[QUOTE="mark4091"]You're a fool, what do you spend every day in you're mother basement or something? nobodys 100% never going to commit a crime, a felony can range from many things.chrisrooR

no im a 19 yr old college student that sees ripe execution opportunities every day and is saddened by their passing

LOL WUT?

we could probably report this message to the police. It's considered being a homicidal threat to the school he's at. Joke or not.

lolwut to u too sir.

stupid gamespot won't let me edit my post. But...

this thread sounds like something that happened recently...Anyone guess?

http://www.pr-inside.com/finnish-student-kills-8-in-school-r289538.htm

the student believed, much like the TC, that he was a "revolution against the system." and bore a t-shirt that said "Humanity is overrated."

[QUOTE="MattUD1"]Are you a Legalist by any chance? Because I HONESTLY think you are taking that philosphy to an extreme.thisoldman

i never knew there was a such thing as a legalist until someone mentioned it on page 1. im not big on philosophy but i consider myself a nihilist, libertarian, and libertine.

you're no libertarian, Dr. Death, and if you are a libertine then you are flirting with your own destruction in a system such as you describe. you clearly fail to comprehend the NAP/ZAP principle.

[QUOTE="MattUD1"]Are you a Legalist by any chance? Because I HONESTLY think you are taking that philosphy to an extreme.thisoldman

i never knew there was a such thing as a legalist until someone mentioned it on page 1. im not big on philosophy but i consider myself a nihilist, libertarian, and libertine.

Or according to the dictionary: strict adherence, or the principle of strict adherence, to law or prescription, esp. to the letter rather than the spirit.

Oh, and I consider myself a Libertarian and I don't think everyone regardless of age should be sentenced to death because of their commiting a felony. But hey, if you wish everyone dead for committing certain crimes go ahead. Just remember, if you take part in the execution you are a murderer, even if you are killing for the sake of 'peace' or whatever misguided ideology you follow.

[QUOTE="thisoldman"]

[QUOTE="MattUD1"]Are you a Legalist by any chance? Because I HONESTLY think you are taking that philosphy to an extreme.giton

i never knew there was a such thing as a legalist until someone mentioned it on page 1. im not big on philosophy but i consider myself a nihilist, libertarian, and libertine.

you're no libertarian, Dr. Death, and if you are a libertine then you are flirting with your own destruction in a system such as you describe. you clearly fail to comprehend the NAP/ZAP principle.

when i think libertarian i think of a supporter of laissez-faire economics and a very free, restrictionlses amsterdam-like social environment--but with a "u can do things #1-934 but if you do thing #982, 1021, or 1651 u die" attitude. and ya im flirting with my own destruction, but that doesnt mean my idea isnt still the best way to go about things? im talking about whats good for society as a whole, including or not including me or u or anyone else

no im not being sarcastic. and what is immoral and indignified is spending $20,000 a year on each criminal in jail. Yes they get out and eventually contribute to society but the taxdollars that would be saved are far greater than what they could contribute in monetary terms, espcecialy considering 2/3 felons go back to prison. How much does a .22 bullet cost? a few cents.

If u crunch the numbers you will see execution is much more efficient.

thisoldman

i am going to pretend to take your argument halfway seriously for this post:

if you had actually "crunched the numbers," you would have learned that it costs taxpayers more money to execute a convict than to keep him/her in jail for life. this is because the legal costs that are involved in the execution of the average prisoner are in the 7 figures range.

face it, fascism doesn't work.

[QUOTE="thisoldman"]

no im not being sarcastic. and what is immoral and indignified is spending $20,000 a year on each criminal in jail. Yes they get out and eventually contribute to society but the taxdollars that would be saved are far greater than what they could contribute in monetary terms, espcecialy considering 2/3 felons go back to prison. How much does a .22 bullet cost? a few cents.

If u crunch the numbers you will see execution is much more efficient.

maximusmmii

i am going to pretend to take your argument halfway seriously for this post:

if you had actually "crunched the numbers," you would have learned that it costs taxpayers more money to execute a convict than to keep him/her in jail for life. this is because the legal costs that are involved in the execution of the average prisoner are in the 7 figures range.

face it, fascism doesn't work.

did i mention earlier and throughout the post that im totally against lethal injection. imo take them outside of the courthouse after the jury finds them guilty and pay one of the courthouse gards to shoot them in the head at the execution wall next to the parking lot.

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="thisoldman"]

[QUOTE="mark4091"]You're a fool, what do you spend every day in you're mother basement or something? nobodys 100% never going to commit a crime, a felony can range from many things.thisoldman

no im a 19 yr old college student that sees ripe execution opportunities every day and is saddened by their passing

LOL WUT?

we could probably report this message to the police. It's considered being a homicidal threat to the school he's at. Joke or not.

lolwut to u too sir.

i'm sorry, but if you don't think that what you just said, fellow students being "ripe executions" is basically ultra moralistic self-righteousness. Basically saying, you are a person with no gray zone. You believe that you're right and everybody else is wrong. There is no gray zone with people like you. What happens to the all the men and women (even children in your case) who are wrongly convicted? When you take away a human life, it cannot be brought back.

[QUOTE="thisoldman"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="thisoldman"]

[QUOTE="mark4091"]You're a fool, what do you spend every day in you're mother basement or something? nobodys 100% never going to commit a crime, a felony can range from many things.chrisrooR

no im a 19 yr old college student that sees ripe execution opportunities every day and is saddened by their passing

LOL WUT?

we could probably report this message to the police. It's considered being a homicidal threat to the school he's at. Joke or not.

lolwut to u too sir.

i'm sorry, but if you don't think that what you just said, fellow students being "ripe executions" is basically ultra moralistic self-righteousness. Basically saying, you are a person with no gray zone. You believe that you're right and everybody else is wrong. There is no gray zone with people like you. What happens to the all the men and women (even children in your case) who are wrongly convicted? When you take away a human life, it cannot be brought back.

as i mentioned earlier with the example involving the homeless people. Their deaths are written off as the cost of managing society. The "cost of doing business" if you will.

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="thisoldman"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="thisoldman"]

[QUOTE="mark4091"]You're a fool, what do you spend every day in you're mother basement or something? nobodys 100% never going to commit a crime, a felony can range from many things.thisoldman

no im a 19 yr old college student that sees ripe execution opportunities every day and is saddened by their passing

LOL WUT?

we could probably report this message to the police. It's considered being a homicidal threat to the school he's at. Joke or not.

lolwut to u too sir.

i'm sorry, but if you don't think that what you just said, fellow students being "ripe executions" is basically ultra moralistic self-righteousness. Basically saying, you are a person with no gray zone. You believe that you're right and everybody else is wrong. There is no gray zone with people like you. What happens to the all the men and women (even children in your case) who are wrongly convicted? When you take away a human life, it cannot be brought back.

as i mentioned earlier with the example involving the homeless people. Their deaths are written off as the cost of managing society. The "cost of doing business" if you will.

i'm going to conclude this argument with the assumption that you are mentally unstable. :|

[QUOTE="giton"][QUOTE="thisoldman"]

[QUOTE="MattUD1"]Are you a Legalist by any chance? Because I HONESTLY think you are taking that philosphy to an extreme.thisoldman

i never knew there was a such thing as a legalist until someone mentioned it on page 1. im not big on philosophy but i consider myself a nihilist, libertarian, and libertine.

you're no libertarian, Dr. Death, and if you are a libertine then you are flirting with your own destruction in a system such as you describe. you clearly fail to comprehend the NAP/ZAP principle.

when i think libertarian i think of a supporter of laissez-faire economics and a very free, restrictionlses amsterdam-like social environment. and ya im flirting with my own destruction, but that doesnt mean my idea isnt still the best way to go about things? im talking about whats good for society as a whole, including or not including me or u or anyone else

a hands-off approach to the markets is libertarian, true. but there is much more.

libertarianism is based on the principe of non-aggression or zero-aggression with respect to initiating force. if you understand the NAP/ZAP, you will know that it is predicated on the concept of self-ownership. society is not an individual, so it has can own nothing. you own yourself, therefore no one else can own you. the state cannot have authority because no group of people can grant to others (the state) authority that they themselves do not have (i.e., the right to own others and therefore to rule them). thus, the state has no authority to engage in homicide, only the victims of aggression do. society is never a victim because society isn't a person.

"man can never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." -- denis diderot

You know, i've been over this scenerio before. Not giving anyone a second chance, one stupid mistake and off with your head. People would live in fear, live in constant suffering and oppression, knowing that the end does not justify the means in any form. You know what would happen? The current government wouldn't be around for much longer, it's pretty obvious in a democracy. It's safe to say, your idea just won't plain work in this context. aaaaarrrrggggg

but lets just pretend for a second that the citizens didnt revolt. if everything else stays how it is, it will work.

[QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="thisoldman"]

no im not being sarcastic. and what is immoral and indignified is spending $20,000 a year on each criminal in jail. Yes they get out and eventually contribute to society but the taxdollars that would be saved are far greater than what they could contribute in monetary terms, espcecialy considering 2/3 felons go back to prison. How much does a .22 bullet cost? a few cents.

If u crunch the numbers you will see execution is much more efficient.

thisoldman

i am going to pretend to take your argument halfway seriously for this post:

if you had actually "crunched the numbers," you would have learned that it costs taxpayers more money to execute a convict than to keep him/her in jail for life. this is because the legal costs that are involved in the execution of the average prisoner are in the 7 figures range.

face it, fascism doesn't work.

did i mention earlier and throughout the post that im totally against lethal injection. imo take them outside of the courthouse after the jury finds them guilty and pay one of the courthouse gards to shoot them in the head at the execution wall next to the parking lot.

what the hell are you talking about? how would that make capital punishment more cost effective?

you are not a libertarian. you are a fascist. your ideas are not rational.

[QUOTE="aaaaarrrrggggg"]You know, i've been over this scenerio before. Not giving anyone a second chance, one stupid mistake and off with your head. People would live in fear, live in constant suffering and oppression, knowing that the end does not justify the means in any form. You know what would happen? The current government wouldn't be around for much longer, it's pretty obvious in a democracy. It's safe to say, your idea just won't plain work in this context. thisoldman

but lets just pretend for a second that the citizens didnt revolt. if everything else stays how it is, it will work.

you imagine a docile race of sheeple, people who blindly and unquestionably respect so-called authority. they do exist, but i and most of my friends are not that species.

[QUOTE="aaaaarrrrggggg"]You know, i've been over this scenerio before. Not giving anyone a second chance, one stupid mistake and off with your head. People would live in fear, live in constant suffering and oppression, knowing that the end does not justify the means in any form. You know what would happen? The current government wouldn't be around for much longer, it's pretty obvious in a democracy. It's safe to say, your idea just won't plain work in this context. thisoldman

but lets just pretend for a second that the citizens didnt revolt. if everything else stays how it is, it will work.

Let's pretend for a second no one rose to power in a communist government.

Communism rules!

[QUOTE="thisoldman"][QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="thisoldman"]

no im not being sarcastic. and what is immoral and indignified is spending $20,000 a year on each criminal in jail. Yes they get out and eventually contribute to society but the taxdollars that would be saved are far greater than what they could contribute in monetary terms, espcecialy considering 2/3 felons go back to prison. How much does a .22 bullet cost? a few cents.

If u crunch the numbers you will see execution is much more efficient.

maximusmmii

i am going to pretend to take your argument halfway seriously for this post:

if you had actually "crunched the numbers," you would have learned that it costs taxpayers more money to execute a convict than to keep him/her in jail for life. this is because the legal costs that are involved in the execution of the average prisoner are in the 7 figures range.

face it, fascism doesn't work.

did i mention earlier and throughout the post that im totally against lethal injection. imo take them outside of the courthouse after the jury finds them guilty and pay one of the courthouse gards to shoot them in the head at the execution wall next to the parking lot.

what the hell are you talking about? how would that make capital punishment more cost effective?

you are not a libertarian. you are a fascist. your ideas are not rational.

it costs 7 figures to execute nowadays because of the beauracracy and hoops ppl have to jump through to guarantee an execution and all these appleals that they go through and the resulting legal cost.

We the jury find joe guilty.

Joe is immediately taken outside and shot in the head, his body is given to his family for burial"

Joe is now "Deceased" for all intents and purposes.

the end

you can come up with all these "what if the jury was tampered with and they didtn find out till months later" excuses all you want. all i have to say is that those are rare cases and can be written off.

[QUOTE="thisoldman"]

[QUOTE="aaaaarrrrggggg"]You know, i've been over this scenerio before. Not giving anyone a second chance, one stupid mistake and off with your head. People would live in fear, live in constant suffering and oppression, knowing that the end does not justify the means in any form. You know what would happen? The current government wouldn't be around for much longer, it's pretty obvious in a democracy. It's safe to say, your idea just won't plain work in this context. giton

but lets just pretend for a second that the citizens didnt revolt. if everything else stays how it is, it will work.

you imagine a docile race of sheeple, people who blindly and unquestionably respect so-called authority. they do exist, but i and most of my friends are not that species.

well i dont understand why citizens would revolt. they are happy and have all the freedoms they could ever want and can run and dance naked in the streets and drink mango juice and the clouds rain sweet manna from the heavens and sugarplum fairies dance on their heads. but if they punch, rob, rape, or kill someone, they die.

[QUOTE="aaaaarrrrggggg"]You know, i've been over this scenerio before. Not giving anyone a second chance, one stupid mistake and off with your head. People would live in fear, live in constant suffering and oppression, knowing that the end does not justify the means in any form. You know what would happen? The current government wouldn't be around for much longer, it's pretty obvious in a democracy. It's safe to say, your idea just won't plain work in this context. thisoldman

but lets just pretend for a second that the citizens didnt revolt. if everything else stays how it is, it will work.

sorry, but mind explaining how this is any different then the thrid reich? Do you comprehend how primitive just killing every felon would be?

felon convictions in state courts - 1,078,920

Error of convictions in state courts - 37,379

that's one hell of alot of people to be put to death. Perhaps you should re-evalutate your "genius" plan.

[QUOTE="aaaaarrrrggggg"]You know, i've been over this scenerio before. Not giving anyone a second chance, one stupid mistake and off with your head. People would live in fear, live in constant suffering and oppression, knowing that the end does not justify the means in any form. You know what would happen? The current government wouldn't be around for much longer, it's pretty obvious in a democracy. It's safe to say, your idea just won't plain work in this context. thisoldman

but lets just pretend for a second that the citizens didnt revolt. if everything else stays how it is, it will work.

Of course it would work if you pretend. The fact of the matter is, it won't in actual matters. On that basis, your initial argument is flawed, and is only hypothetical, not an actual option. The people go against the idea, it gets abolished, the people know what's best for the people, which is why the law isn't in place right now..

[QUOTE="thisoldman"]

[QUOTE="aaaaarrrrggggg"]You know, i've been over this scenerio before. Not giving anyone a second chance, one stupid mistake and off with your head. People would live in fear, live in constant suffering and oppression, knowing that the end does not justify the means in any form. You know what would happen? The current government wouldn't be around for much longer, it's pretty obvious in a democracy. It's safe to say, your idea just won't plain work in this context. chrisrooR

but lets just pretend for a second that the citizens didnt revolt. if everything else stays how it is, it will work.

sorry, but mind explaining how this is any different then the thrid reich? Do you comprehend how primitive just killing every felon would be?

felon convictions in state courts - 1,078,920

Error of convictions in state courts - 37,379

that's one hell of alot of people to be put to death. Perhaps you should re-evalutate your "genius" plan.

that is 0.03% errors of conviction. far from "hell of alot"

well i dont understand why citizens would revolt.

thisoldman

You must not know how many people are against the death penalty... And near complete anarchy... And the end not justifying the means...

*looks at watch* looks like its time for me to gtfoTHIS thread before the flame war starts.JLAudio7

[QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="thisoldman"][QUOTE="maximusmmii"][QUOTE="thisoldman"]

no im not being sarcastic. and what is immoral and indignified is spending $20,000 a year on each criminal in jail. Yes they get out and eventually contribute to society but the taxdollars that would be saved are far greater than what they could contribute in monetary terms, espcecialy considering 2/3 felons go back to prison. How much does a .22 bullet cost? a few cents.

If u crunch the numbers you will see execution is much more efficient.

thisoldman

i am going to pretend to take your argument halfway seriously for this post:

if you had actually "crunched the numbers," you would have learned that it costs taxpayers more money to execute a convict than to keep him/her in jail for life. this is because the legal costs that are involved in the execution of the average prisoner are in the 7 figures range.

face it, fascism doesn't work.

did i mention earlier and throughout the post that im totally against lethal injection. imo take them outside of the courthouse after the jury finds them guilty and pay one of the courthouse gards to shoot them in the head at the execution wall next to the parking lot.

what the hell are you talking about? how would that make capital punishment more cost effective?

you are not a libertarian. you are a fascist. your ideas are not rational.

it costs 7 figures to execute nowadays because of the beauracracy and hoops ppl have to jump through to guarantee an execution and all these appleals that they go through and the resulting legal cost.

We the jury find joe guilty.

Joe is immediately taken outside and shot in the head, his body is given to his family for burial"

Joe is now "Deceased" for all intents and purposes.

the end

you can come up with all these "what if the jury was tampered with and they didtn find out till months later" excuses all you want. all i have to say is that those are rare cases and can be written off.

does anyone really even need to explain why this is a terrible idea? have you ever read a history book? do you understand that totalitarianism in the 20th century has been the worst thing to happen to man kind in its existence? why do you want to resurrect elements of these ideologies?

[QUOTE="thisoldman"]

well i dont understand why citizens would revolt.

aaaaarrrrggggg

You must not know how many people are against the death penalty... And near complete anarchy... And the end not justifying the means...

they may be against it but when they are dancing naked in the streets and sweet manna is raining from the heavens and sugarplum fairies are dancing on their heads, they will be in too much ecstasy to care.

does anyone really even need to explain why this is a terrible idea? have you ever read a history book? do you understand that totalitarianism in the 20th century has been the worst thing to happen to man kind in its existence? why do you want to resurrect elements of these ideologies?

maximusmmii

how is any of this totalitarian?? all im suggesting is mandatory executions, everything else the same. the reason those past societies have failed is because they did not have the social freedoms we have. they had the strict punishments but that came with opression. im simply suggesting harsher punishments. balance = bliss

I'm all for killing people

but there is the possibility of the felon actually being innocent....which would lead to execution because that would be the punishment for everything

Its the most practical and efficient method of punishment imo. Costs society the least amount of time, money, and work.

And dont start arguing about the philosophies of whether or not a 6 yr old knows what hes doing, thats just a waste of time and doesnt matter, just put a bullet in his head and continue on with your day. When you have weeds in your lawn you dont dress them up to make them look pretty, you rip them out and throw them away. problem solved

discuss

thisoldman

you're right. and if i dislike someone, i should kill him or her, right, right? i dislike you. you should die. :(

Its the most practical and efficient method of punishment imo. Costs society the least amount of time, money, and work.

And dont start arguing about the philosophies of whether or not a 6 yr old knows what hes doing, thats just a waste of time and doesnt matter, just put a bullet in his head and continue on with your day. When you have weeds in your lawn you dont dress them up to make them look pretty, you rip them out and throw them away. problem solved

discuss

thisoldman

[QUOTE="Fortier"]Yeah, killing people needlessly rather than eradicating the base of the problem definitely sounds like a reasonable plan...thisoldman

crime can only occur if there is a criminal to perpetrate it. strict punishment will ensure that these "criminals" will never materialize and if they do they get shot in the fayse and its ggnore

[QUOTE="maximusmmii"]

does anyone really even need to explain why this is a terrible idea? have you ever read a history book? do you understand that totalitarianism in the 20th century has been the worst thing to happen to man kind in its existence? why do you want to resurrect elements of these ideologies?

thisoldman

how is any of this totalitarian?? all im suggesting is mandatory executions, everything else the same. the reason those past societies have failed is because they did not have the social freedoms we have. they had the strict punishments but that came with opression. im simply suggesting harsher punishments. balance = bliss

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="thisoldman"]

[QUOTE="aaaaarrrrggggg"]You know, i've been over this scenerio before. Not giving anyone a second chance, one stupid mistake and off with your head. People would live in fear, live in constant suffering and oppression, knowing that the end does not justify the means in any form. You know what would happen? The current government wouldn't be around for much longer, it's pretty obvious in a democracy. It's safe to say, your idea just won't plain work in this context. thisoldman

but lets just pretend for a second that the citizens didnt revolt. if everything else stays how it is, it will work.

sorry, but mind explaining how this is any different then the thrid reich? Do you comprehend how primitive just killing every felon would be?

felon convictions in state courts - 1,078,920

Error of convictions in state courts - 37,379

that's one hell of alot of people to be put to death. Perhaps you should re-evalutate your "genius" plan.

that is 0.03% errors of conviction. far from "hell of alot"

it's 37,000 people. That' is a "hell of alot"

[QUOTE="thisoldman"][QUOTE="chrisrooR"][QUOTE="thisoldman"]

[QUOTE="aaaaarrrrggggg"]You know, i've been over this scenerio before. Not giving anyone a second chance, one stupid mistake and off with your head. People would live in fear, live in constant suffering and oppression, knowing that the end does not justify the means in any form. You know what would happen? The current government wouldn't be around for much longer, it's pretty obvious in a democracy. It's safe to say, your idea just won't plain work in this context. chrisrooR

but lets just pretend for a second that the citizens didnt revolt. if everything else stays how it is, it will work.

sorry, but mind explaining how this is any different then the thrid reich? Do you comprehend how primitive just killing every felon would be?

felon convictions in state courts - 1,078,920

Error of convictions in state courts - 37,379

that's one hell of alot of people to be put to death. Perhaps you should re-evalutate your "genius" plan.

that is 0.03% errors of conviction. far from "hell of alot"

it's 37,000 people. That' is a "hell of alot"

compared to the grand scheme of things no it is not. the grand scheme can be expressed as 100. the errors are 0.03

99.7% efficacy is near perfect. if you dont think so then ur missing the point and dont get what im saying.

and as for being primitive, sometimes the simplest solution is the most effective.

[QUOTE="thisoldman"]

[QUOTE="Fortier"]Yeah, killing people needlessly rather than eradicating the base of the problem definitely sounds like a reasonable plan...quiglythegreat

crime can only occur if there is a criminal to perpetrate it. strict punishment will ensure that these "criminals" will never materialize and if they do they get shot in the fayse and its ggnore

i shouldve explained this earler . im not fixated on firearms. i meant execute them in the cheapest, quickest, most efficient way possible. whatever that may be. firearms is just the first thing that popped into my head so for the sake of the argument im using them.

[QUOTE="thisoldman"]

Its the most practical and efficient method of punishment imo. Costs society the least amount of time, money, and work.

And dont start arguing about the philosophies of whether or not a 6 yr old knows what hes doing, thats just a waste of time and doesnt matter, just put a bullet in his head and continue on with your day. When you have weeds in your lawn you dont dress them up to make them look pretty, you rip them out and throw them away. problem solved

discuss

quiglythegreat

you're right. It is disturbing. very disturbing. This guy is really displaying some psychopathic tendencies. :|