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#1 mish55
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Marriage...

I've changed quite a lot since the last 2 years. I question all of the traditions, all of the rules, and pretty much everything that usually goes unquestioned, like that elephant in the room thing.

Things like marriage; when I was younger, I went with it, I always wanted to get married and have kids, but then I see that marriage is an abstract, useless tradition. Okay, I understand, people love each other, they want to be each other forever, but what exactly does getting married do that "locks" the bond together?

Me and some friends have come to the conclusion that it really is just a "written/contracted I love you."

I don't see whats wrong with just being together with the person you love without marriage, you know, just live together forever, have kids and all that other stuff that married people do.

All you have to show when being married is a ring, and the idea that you are legally together. Eh....

What about that situation? That situation where one person says "I love you so much, we should get married" and the other person says "umm....I don't need marriage to show you i love you, i will love you forever." Either they will realize that marriage is retarded and isn't necessary or the pro-marriage person will get mad and want to leave the "pro-love" person, which just shows the idiocy of their idea of "love"(True love is acquired by marriage?)

so ya, this tradition in my opinion is just a primitive tradition, coming back from the age where women were treated inferiorly to men.

This is just my theory but I see marriage in the olden days as a way to show "ownership" of a woman, not really a choice destined by love, just to show ownership of something "inferior." People sold their daughters(young as hell) to older men for wives, not denied?

So ya, this ranting and raving is just my opinion, and I wanted to post this because not many people do have this thought in their mind, they go with it.

So please tell me(if you are reading this) what marriage actually means to you.
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#2 duxup
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You don't have to get married... it almost sounds like you do ;)

Anyway marriage has more to do with just the two people. The ceremony and religious traditions are community oriented as much as they are about the couple.

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#3 dreamdude
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Marriage means nothing to me because I hope never to be it.

But isn't it cheaper for a couple to be married if they live in the same house. Dont they get benefits of some kind?

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#4 Hey_Jay
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These days, I just see marriage as a way of celebrating your love for one another with your friends and family. The wedding is for them.
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#5 mish55
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Marriage means nothing to me because I hope never to be it.

But isn't it cheaper for a couple to be married if they live in the same house. Dont they get benefits of some kind?

dreamdude

its true they do get benefits, but the hardships of marriage far outweigh all of them.

And besides, being married for the benefits is really low.

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#6 MgamerBD
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Marraige is bull I know so many relationships where people are depressed and that is depressing.
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#7 duxup
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[QUOTE="dreamdude"]

Marriage means nothing to me because I hope never to be it.

But isn't it cheaper for a couple to be married if they live in the same house. Dont they get benefits of some kind?

mish55

its true they do get benefits, but the hardships of marriage far outweigh all of them.

And besides, being married for the benefits is really low.

Wouldn't those hardships apply to any exclusive relationship?

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#8 entropyecho
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You don't have to get married... it almost sounds like you do ;)

Anyway marriage has more to do with just the two people. The ceremony and religious traditions are community oriented as much as they are about the couple.

duxup

This is pretty much what I would have said verbatim.

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#9 mish55
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These days, I just see marriage as a way of celebrating your love for one another with your friends and family. The wedding is for them.Hey_Jay
i do see that too, by why not express love differently?

or why celebrate your love anyway?

like i've said, i wouldn't need some traditional acient ceremony to show a person how much i love them. "words cannot express my love" but marriage can?

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#10 mish55
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[QUOTE="mish55"][QUOTE="dreamdude"]

Marriage means nothing to me because I hope never to be it.

But isn't it cheaper for a couple to be married if they live in the same house. Dont they get benefits of some kind?

duxup

its true they do get benefits, but the hardships of marriage far outweigh all of them.

And besides, being married for the benefits is really low.

Wouldn't those hardships apply to any exclusive relationship?

that statement has also led me to question any exclusive relationship.
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#11 GabuEx
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Marriage is, more or less, a means with which to tell the person whom you love (as well as everyone watching) that you intend to be with them and faithful to them for the rest of your life. If you don't think that's a necessary part of a relationship, then the simple answer is to just not bother getting married. :P
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#12 Hey_Jay
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[QUOTE="Hey_Jay"]These days, I just see marriage as a way of celebrating your love for one another with your friends and family. The wedding is for them.mish55

i do see that too, by why not express love differently?

or why celebrate your love anyway?

like i've said, i wouldn't need some traditional acient ceremony to show a person how much i love them. "words cannot express my love" but marriage can?

If it works for them and makes them happy, so be it.

Though I do feel that when you love someone, that's it. That's all you need. I suppose you could see marriage as that saying, "I love (this person) so much that I want the whole world to know."

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#13 TheCraving
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I personally don't want to get married. Every marriage I've ever seen fell to peices including my parents. But, my girlfriend see's marriage on the cards in the future. Once she finishes Uni her and I will be getting a place together.

She wants the full package, marriage, kids, house ect ect but I sometimes think I don't want all that. I don't know, I get horribly confused because I love her but I don't know if I could give her all she wants. Espcially kids.

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#14 mish55
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Marriage is, more or less, a means with which to tell the person whom you love (as well as everyone watching) that you intend to be with them and faithful to them for the rest of your life. If you don't think that's a necessary part of a relationship, then the simple answer is to just not bother getting married. :PGabuEx
i'll agree with that. But it's always interesting to question things

after taking psychology, i can't stop

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#15 VacantPsalm
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I'm going to have to say yes and no to what you said. Marriage is what individuals make of, it has no hold as a general term meaning X. That's why I roll my eyes at people who don't approve of gay marriage. Why? because you think it's a sacred thing? People back then had crap loads of wives at once, does that sound like a sacred loving thing to you? So at that point you have it right. However, I wouldn't push off the term marriage altogether just because some people take it a cretin way. IMO, it's just when two people love each other and want to spend their lives with each other. You don't have to stand in front of a preacher while he's says some things to be married, it's just when you make a promise to each other. To me sex is making that promise. Once I decide I want to spend my life with the woman I love, I'll ask her if she'll spend her's with me and if she says yes then we do it. Once we're done I get to call her my wife. Because the only difference between that moment we agree on it and when the wedding bells ring is the approval of some more traditional people. I don't need the approval of other people when it comes to love, so I guess she's just as much my wife now as then. I'll still go through the traditions to make people happy though. It won't hurt to play dress up for a day.:P PS: I agree with the people who say the wedding is for friends and family. In fact I think it always was, it just got twisted over time to mean the actual moment the two people get married.
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#16 little-kitty
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I want to get married. But only if I trust him with my entire heart. To me, its the ultimate bond of giving one's self to another freely and without question. I'm a big dreamer and want him to be in shinning armor and everything, but there's nothing wrong with that. Oh, and a white picket fence, a rose garden, kittens and puppies too. The last part is a joke by the way...I think. :P
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#17 Canvas_Of_Flesh
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Wow, you may be thinking about it too much. I don't see as how it's that big of a deal. Back when I got married I was with my girlfriend and I knew I intended to be together for our lives, so we threw a big party (wedding ceremony) and received lots of gifts and money. It's a celebration of love between two people...I don't think it's really any more than that. It just seems that if marriage seems so abhorrent to you that you would just forget about getting married.
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Interesting post.I thought about it for a moment and I am the only man in my family.It is my responsibility to carry on the family name because it ends with me.I have 4 sisters,1 is married,1 is single,1 is engaged to be married and will be next year,and another sister is divorced.But they can't carry on our family name.
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#19 II_Seraphim_II
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I want to get married. Not because of some convention but because when I think about the possibility of marriage, I get a good feeling, so I figure it must be good.
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#20 Darthmatt
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I'm actually getting married this weekend. I'll admit its probably not for everyone, but when you know you've met someone who is right for you, a lot of things change. I'm not nevrous at all, we've owned a house over a year and have four pets together. so its already like we are married anyways.
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#21 II_Seraphim_II
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I'm actually getting married this weekend. I'll admit its probably not for everyone, but when you know you've met someone who is right for you, a lot of things change. I'm not nevrous at all, we've owned a house over a year and have four pets together. so its already like we are married anyways.Darthmatt

Gratz! :D

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#22 btaylor2404
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Marriage to me means a slightly bigger commitment to the person you love. Two people can stay together forever unmarried and love each other just as much, but getting married is a commitment that is a bit harder to break. Legally of course there are a few perks as well. If I look at my own marriage, I'm glad we're married instead of just still dating.