Lets not act like this is new folks... This kind of confirms that the liberals control the media.
Owned.
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@GreySeal9: look I'm sorry, maybe I don't know so much about the ins and outs of lifting passages from books and passing it off as your life as I thought I did. But I do know about integrity. When my parents moved me to this midwestern town where dancing is illegal I thought I was doomed but then I danced. I danced across that warehouse harder than I had ever danced before and you know what the pastor thay controlled that town came around. That experence came in handy too when I was lost on mars and had to survive with only a few tools and the ark of the covenent.
@GreySeal9: look I'm sorry, maybe I don't know so much about the ins and outs of lifting passages from books and passing it off as your life as I thought I did.
Yes, you clearly are out of your depth on this thread. And you wouldn't back yourself into these corners if you didn't feel the burning need to rationalize every little thing that goes wrong for Trump.
I can't wait until this is called the MLP defense...
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/07/19/rnc-communications-director-plagiarism-sot-wolf.cnn
At some point, though, there will be no original words left and everyone will be forced to mimic each other. This is just silly.
@GreySeal9: lulz an edited quote. If you want you can probably edit it enough to say I eat the poopies. I won't get mad or anything if it makes you feel better about things.
@GreySeal9: lulz an edited quote. If you want you can probably edit it enough to say I eat the poopies. I won't get mad or anything if it makes you feel better about things.
Better about what? I'm not the one who feels compelled to defend the **** up of a dumpster-fire campaign.
Every political person uses other peoples material including Obama Micheal, and Biden. Go to Drudge you can find the article there. At least MRS. Trump didn't quote Micheal Obama comment " This is the first time I am proud of my country".
Deflect, deflect, deflect. When you can't defend your side, claim the other side is guilty too.
@GreySeal9: you mean fucked up dumpster fire of a populist revolt that is picking up steam no matter how hard you ball up your fists and scream raciss as you throw your toys around right?
@GreySeal9: look I'm sorry, maybe I don't know so much about the ins and outs of lifting passages from books and passing it off as your life as I thought I did. But I do know about integrity. When my parents moved me to this midwestern town where dancing is illegal I thought I was doomed but then I danced. I danced across that warehouse harder than I had ever danced before and you know what the pastor thay controlled that town came around. That experence came in handy too when I was lost on mars and had to survive with only a few tools and the ark of the covenent.
Do you seriously not understand the difference between talking about a similar subject that someone else has also at some point talked about, and just copying them word for word? You clearly do since your first post in this thread said "you can't copyright common ideas". What Michelle Obama did was use a common idea, what Melania Trump('s speech writers) did was plagiarism.
@GreySeal9: you mean fucked up dumpster fire of a populist revolt that is picking up steam no matter how hard you ball up your fists and scream raciss as you throw your toys around right?
I know it's picking up steam. Donald Trump winning the Republican primaries is a testament to its success. That doesn't mean it's a good thing. It's not a rational movement by any stretch. Donald Trump is essentially taking advantage of people's anger, pain, fear, and ignorance.
The Donald Trump part of it will fail though, even if the forces that catapulted him remain. They'll probably actually be more effective next time because they might attach to a messenger that's not a walking disaster. Really, here's no way any reasonable person can claim that Donald Trump's campaign is operating in a competent fashion.
@GreySeal9: being the hot trendy hashtag it is it is all over a half dozen different news sites along with plagiarism incidences of other politicians. Find your favorite site and look it up
The "look it up" defense is not going to work.
What speech did Michelle Obama plagiarize?
I hate it when someone makes a claim, you call them on it, and they tell you to look it up.
Look, @Riverwolf007, if you're going to make a claim, be prepared to back it up else we're just going to assume you're full of shit.
@n64dd Melania doesn't look like a victim, the Trump staff looks incompetent.
Saw this and thought it was pretty funny.
But yeah, the speeches had a lot of lines in common. I doubt Melania did anything wrong herself besides read from a speech that borrowed heavily from another speech but at the same time there's still some responsibility there. What's more concerning to me is the lack of accountability after the fact.
-Byshop
@bforrester420: and I agree with you. Now how many times have you done that and it makes no difference because they don't like the source? It took a decade of me linking shit in here to see it as a waste of time but really it only takes seconds when I'm not using my phone and if that is what makes you happy then I am more than happy to going back to doing it as religiously as I used to.
@GreySeal9: being the hot trendy hashtag it is it is all over a half dozen different news sites along with plagiarism incidences of other politicians. Find your favorite site and look it up
The "look it up" defense is not going to work.
What speech did Michelle Obama plagiarize?
I hate it when someone makes a claim, you call them on it, and they tell you to look it up.
Look, @Riverwolf007, if you're going to make a claim, be prepared to back it up else we're just going to assume you're full of shit.
@n64dd Melania doesn't look like a victim, the Trump staff looks incompetent.
Yeah, it's super annoying (and it's clear that he didn't actually have an example before gloming onto the nonsense that JimB posted. When people do that, my approach is to just keep pressing them on it.
Saw this and thought it was pretty funny.
But yeah, the speeches had a lot of lines in common. I doubt Melania did anything wrong herself besides read from a speech that borrowed heavily from another speech but at the same time there's still some responsibility there. What's more concerning to me is the lack of accountability after the fact.
-Byshop
That tweet is both hilarious and clever.
I wouldn't call it sabotage. I'd call it checkmate.
Your opinion is noted though.
Seems weird to checkmate your own queen but okay.
Yeah it seems weird to give up your queen in chess. It'd be weird if one of the best chess players in history did that and won a major tournament and it was called the play of the century..hmmm...
My chess knowledge is admittedly lacking but the point is there's no real benefit to getting your wife accused of plagiarism. Not to mention that most people thought Melania was the bright spot of the convention, bringing some much needed light after all the darkness, and the plagiarism controversy messed that up. What really happened is that Trump hired bad speechwriters; it's likely that neither Trump or Melania was even aware that the speech had been plagiarized. *link removed*
What on earth does that link go to? When I hover over, it says something about a blonde stroking herself?
Seems weird to checkmate your own queen but okay.
Yeah it seems weird to give up your queen in chess. It'd be weird if one of the best chess players in history did that and won a major tournament and it was called the play of the century..hmmm...
My chess knowledge is admittedly lacking but the point is there's no real benefit to getting your wife accused of plagiarism. Not to mention that most people thought Melania was the bright spot of the convention, bringing some much needed light after all the darkness, and the plagiarism controversy messed that up. What really happened is that Trump hired bad speechwriters; it's likely that neither Trump or Melania was even aware that the speech had been plagiarized.
What on earth does that link go to? When I hover over, it says something about a blonde stroking herself?
lol. Accidentally posted the wrong link.
@toast_burner: In 2008 in a speech to the DNC she lifted lines from Saul Alinsky's book Rules for Radicals.
I googled that and the only relevant result was the breitbart, which is on par with The Onion in reliability. They used these two lines as evidence.
And Barack stood up that day, and he spoke words that have stayed with me ever since. He talked about "the world as it is" and "the world as it should be."
This apparently is a copy of this
The standards of judgement must be rooted in the whys and wherefores of life as it is lived, the world as it is, not our wished-for fantasy of the world as it should be.
So no it's just made up nonsense by a right wing blog. Stop reading the Breitbart, your IQ will increase by atleast 50 points the moment you do.
First of all I read it on Drudge which I said in my first post on this subject.
Every political person uses other peoples material including Obama Micheal, and Biden. Go to Drudge you can find the article there. At least MRS. Trump didn't quote Micheal Obama comment " This is the first time I am proud of my country".
For someone who talks about having morals or probably thinks he follows the teachings for Christ, you're sure a nasty piece of work.
I can't help Michael Obama made that statement. The people on the left like to dish it out but can't take it when it is given back to them.
Every political person uses other peoples material including Obama Micheal, and Biden. Go to Drudge you can find the article there. At least MRS. Trump didn't quote Micheal Obama comment " This is the first time I am proud of my country".
For someone who talks about having morals or probably thinks he follows the teachings for Christ, you're sure a nasty piece of work.
I can't help Michael Obama made that statement. The people on the left like to dish it out but can't take it when it is given back to them.
The nasty part is calling her "Michael," implying that she is a man. As a Christian adult, you should know better.
Haha. Gotta use the internet as it was intended to be used.
It's still there. Better delete it from your original post.
I did. But it's still in some of the quote chains. I PMed the moderators about it, so they'll take care of it.
The nasty part is calling her "Michael," implying that she is a man. As a Christian adult, you should know better.
You are giving him too much credit. JimB is likely too stupid to spell "Michelle" properly.
Lay off of her. Could you imagine being oppressed as much as she is? Think about who she has to wake up next to, spend all of her time with, and occasionally take a dick from.....
The nasty part is calling her "Michael," implying that she is a man. As a Christian adult, you should know better.
You are giving him too much credit. JimB is likely too stupid to spell "Michelle" properly.
You might be onto something lol.
The nasty part is calling her "Michael," implying that she is a man. As a Christian adult, you should know better.
You are giving him too much credit. JimB is likely too stupid to spell "Michelle" properly.
You might be onto something lol.
The spelling of her name does not change the facts.
lol. Wrong link.
Haha, I know what you've been doing!
Haha. Gotta use the internet as it was intended to be used.
lol did that just really happen? I think we can be friends now.
Haha. Yeah we can be friends but I'm still going to give you shit about Trump.
The nasty part is calling her "Michael," implying that she is a man. As a Christian adult, you should know better.
You are giving him too much credit. JimB is likely too stupid to spell "Michelle" properly.
You might be onto something lol.
The spelling of her name does not change the facts.
I don't expect that you'll stop trying to push this discredited narrative, but you could attempt to keep it classy, especially if you say you're a Christian. And I'm not just saying this in defense of Michelle Obama. I thought this kind of shit was out of line when aimed at Heidi Cruz as well.
lol. Wrong link.
Haha, I know what you've been doing!
Haha. Gotta use the internet as it was intended to be used.
lol did that just really happen? I think we can be friends now.
Haha. Yeah we can be friends but I'm still going to give you shit about Trump.
As you should. If someone is never challenged they never learn. I will continue to give you shit about Hillary. When one of them is elected, we can both cry together.
lol. Accidentally posted the wrong link.
Glad I don't use your keyboard............lol.
Haha, I know what you've been doing!
Haha. Gotta use the internet as it was intended to be used.
lol did that just really happen? I think we can be friends now.
Haha. Yeah we can be friends but I'm still going to give you shit about Trump.
As you should. If someone is never challenged they never learn. I will continue to give you shit about Hillary. When one of them is elected, we can both cry together.
Gonna be alcohol for me.
Can someone get a transcript of both speeches and run them through a plagiarism checker? Let's see what the results bring up.
Well, I read in other news that the band Queen is very upset that the Donald used their "We Are the Champions" against their wishes... again.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/19/media/queen-donald-trump-we-are-the-champions/index.html
Also, Mike Pence wrote in a 1999 op-ed that Disney's 1998 film Mulan is liberal propaganda in using women in the military! Who ever came up with a crazy idea like that?!
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mike-pence-mulan-disney-is-liberal-propaganda-1999-op-ed/
Well, I read in other news that the band Queen is very upset that the Donald used their "We Are the Champions" against their wishes... again.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/19/media/queen-donald-trump-we-are-the-champions/index.html
Also, Mike Pence wrote in a 1999 op-ed that Disney's 1998 film Mulan is liberal propaganda in using women in the military! Who ever came up with a crazy idea like that?!
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mike-pence-mulan-disney-is-liberal-propaganda-1999-op-ed/
I wish politicians would STFU about movies, literature, games, music. It never ends well.
lol I was wondering Queen had given them permission to use their music. Also wow at Mike Pence calling Mulan liberal propaganda. The crazy just never seems to end.
Well, I read in other news that the band Queen is very upset that the Donald used their "We Are the Champions" against their wishes... again.
http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/19/media/queen-donald-trump-we-are-the-champions/index.html
Also, Mike Pence wrote in a 1999 op-ed that Disney's 1998 film Mulan is liberal propaganda in using women in the military! Who ever came up with a crazy idea like that?!
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mike-pence-mulan-disney-is-liberal-propaganda-1999-op-ed/
I wish politicians would STFU about movies, literature, games, music. It never ends well.
Actually, it makes for some satisfying new stories when their hypocrisy gets them arrested, like good ol' Leland Yee.
lol I was wondering Queen had given them permission to use their music. Also wow at Mike Pence calling Mulan liberal propaganda. The crazy just never seems to end.
if you go to kensal green you can still hear freddie mercury turning in his grave screaming. ...NOOooooo , I know they cremated his body but his soul won't rest till that assface clown pipe down .... and no, queen didn't authorize this ...
https://www.yahoo.com/music/queen-confirm-donald-trump-champions-112404249.html
Well, it sucks that Trump will lose that one voter for whom this is a bridge too far.
lmao I don't think anyone is outraged at all about this so I don't get the point of your post. We are merely poking fun and laughing at the campaign's expense.
I'm really looking forward to see what they might do with this on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.
Well, it sucks that Trump will lose that one voter for whom this is a bridge too far.
lmao I don't think anyone is outraged at all about this so I don't get the point of your post. We are merely poking fun and laughing at the campaign's expense.
The comment was made entirely in jest. This won't effect anything, and I think everyone knows it. That's kind of the point of the joke.
This might have mattered to a small degree to someone like Bush or Clinton in more normal years, but this is nothing compared to what the man has already said.
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