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#101 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="whipassmt"] Well look on the bright side, at least that idiot Pelosi is no longer Speaker of the House.

whipassmt

I actually don't know much about her, but she does seem to be intensely disliked by many. Not that Boehner is any better.

Give Boehner a break, he's only been speaker for a year or so.

And he's been a horrible one so far. Man does not know how to control his party.
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#102 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"] I actually disagree. This is actually addressing the root cause. More protected sex means less STDs being spread, lower population, and thus (in regards to Kingkong's issue) less people to spread the food around to and support.Ace6301

contraceptive pills don't protect against STDS, they even say so in their commercials "the pill does not protect against HIV or other sexually transmitted diseases", although the can harm a woman's gall bladder.

Also less people not only means less consumers (i.e. mouths to feed) but also less producers (i.e. hands to grow the food). Either way the world has more than enough food to feed all the people.

More people mean more producers when there is room for more producers. In quite a few of these third world countries they don't have large production capability because they don't have the capability for large production of goods. It doesn't really matter how many farm hands you have when food simply will not grow. It's hard to manufacture goods and make wages when there is no material to manufacture things with. We have enough food in the world but we're greedy motherf*ckers here in the west.

It's not that we are stealing food from Africa. The US, potentially, has enough farmland to feed almost the entire world. We can certainly provide enough to feed ourselves without having to deprive others of their own crops. The bigger problem is the global market. It makes it extremely difficult for local african farmers to make any kind of living when other western governments subsidize their own farmers. They just cant compete with the dirt cheap food that other nations can make.
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#103 whipassmt
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] I actually don't know much about her, but she does seem to be intensely disliked by many. Not that Boehner is any better. l4dak47

Give Boehner a break, he's only been speaker for a year or so.

And he's been a horrible one so far. Man does not know how to control his party.

His party seems to be more united than Obama's.

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#104 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]not enough jeebus in their lives

cybrcatter

Ultimately, yes. However, simply being responsible with regard to sex was what I was going for. :P

That's nice.

Meanwhile, back in reality

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All I am saying is that if you are not capable of raising a child, don't have sex. :(
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#105 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

[QUOTE="whipassmt"] Well look on the bright side, at least that idiot Pelosi is no longer Speaker of the House.

whipassmt

yes, Boehner is so much better.:roll:

He inherited a lot of stuff from Pelosi, but I think the economy has started to recover a tad since Boehner became speaker. At least Boehner didn't undermine President Bush like Pelosi and Reid did.

How would Boehner have gone about doing that exactly? Is he a secret time traveler?
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="whipassmt"] Give Boehner a break, he's only been speaker for a year or so.

whipassmt

And he's been a horrible one so far. Man does not know how to control his party.

His party seems to be more united than Obama's.

lol. Obama isn't exactly a democrat anymore. The man has just been continuously drifting to the right ever since he got into the office. Ahhhh, who am I joking, they're both the same parties set up to keep us fighting while they get richer and more powerful.
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#107 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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All I am saying is that if you are not capable of raising a child, don't have sex. :(mindstorm

Yes and to avoid car crashes nobody in the world should drive a car.

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#108 l4dak47
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[QUOTE="cybrcatter"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"] Ultimately, yes. However, simply being responsible with regard to sex was what I was going for. :Pmindstorm

That's nice.

Meanwhile, back in reality

rnZOs.jpg

All I am saying is that if you are not capable of raising a child, don't have sex. :(

Dude, stop. Seriously, you are a grown ass man. You should have moved beyond these silly, simplistic ideas that doesn't work. It really is not that simple.
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="whipassmt"] contraceptive pills don't protect against STDS, they even say so in their commercials "the pill does not protect against HIV or other sexually transmitted diseases", although the can harm a woman's gall bladder.

Also less people not only means less consumers (i.e. mouths to feed) but also less producers (i.e. hands to grow the food). Either way the world has more than enough food to feed all the people.

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More people mean more producers when there is room for more producers. In quite a few of these third world countries they don't have large production capability because they don't have the capability for large production of goods. It doesn't really matter how many farm hands you have when food simply will not grow. It's hard to manufacture goods and make wages when there is no material to manufacture things with. We have enough food in the world but we're greedy motherf*ckers here in the west.

It's not that we are stealing food from Africa. The US, potentially, has enough farmland to feed almost the entire world. We can certainly provide enough to feed ourselves without having to deprive others of their own crops. The bigger problem is the global market. It makes it extremely difficult for local african farmers to make any kind of living when other western governments subsidize their own farmers. They just cant compete with the dirt cheap food that other nations can make.

Never said we were stealing it. When I say greedy I'm not just talking about Joe-Bob wanting to eat 4 poptarts in the morning instead of 2, I'm talking about crop shares in general. In order for the entire world to have equal distribution of food quite a lot would have to change and frankly that's not going to happen until we make it cheaper and easier to provide quality food (through scientific advancement I mean)
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#110 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] More people mean more producers when there is room for more producers. In quite a few of these third world countries they don't have large production capability because they don't have the capability for large production of goods. It doesn't really matter how many farm hands you have when food simply will not grow. It's hard to manufacture goods and make wages when there is no material to manufacture things with. We have enough food in the world but we're greedy motherf*ckers here in the west.Ace6301
It's not that we are stealing food from Africa. The US, potentially, has enough farmland to feed almost the entire world. We can certainly provide enough to feed ourselves without having to deprive others of their own crops. The bigger problem is the global market. It makes it extremely difficult for local african farmers to make any kind of living when other western governments subsidize their own farmers. They just cant compete with the dirt cheap food that other nations can make.

Never said we were stealing it. When I say greedy I'm not just talking about Joe-Bob wanting to eat 4 poptarts in the morning instead of 2, I'm talking about crop shares in general. In order for the entire world to have equal distribution of food quite a lot would have to change and frankly that's not going to happen until we make it cheaper and easier to provide quality food (through scientific advancement I mean)

Fox news told me not to trust teh scientists.

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#111 cybrcatter
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[QUOTE="cybrcatter"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"] Ultimately, yes. However, simply being responsible with regard to sex was what I was going for. :Pmindstorm

That's nice.

Meanwhile, back in reality

rnZOs.jpg

All I am saying is that if you are not capable of raising a child, don't have sex. :(

That is very profound and enlightening.

Are you going to incorporate this into a future sermon?

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You need cancer to smoke weed otherwise it is illegal...why not have women with real problems get a cut of the 500mil for contraception instead of any women that just feels like having contraception
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#113 mindstorm
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Dude, stop. Seriously, you are a grown ass man. You should have moved beyond these silly, simplistic ideas that doesn't work. It really is not that simple. l4dak47
I agree that it's not that simple, that's why I am actually in favor of what Melinda Gates did.

I very much make the assumption that people are not going to be responsible. I think that is what should be taught most, yes, but there should also be programs in place to reduce the effections of people's irresponsiblity.

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#114 mingmao3046
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correction: she is using 560 million of her HUSBANDS money for contraceptives
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#115 THE_DRUGGIE
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"] Dude, stop. Seriously, you are a grown ass man. You should have moved beyond these silly, simplistic ideas that doesn't work. It really is not that simple. mindstorm

I agree that it's not that simple, that's why I am actually in favor of what Melinda Gates did.

I very much make the assumption that people are not going to be responsible. I think that is what should be taught most, yes, but there should also be programs in place to reduce the effections of people's irresponsiblity.

Read up on sustainable development theories.

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correction: she is using 560 million of her HUSBANDS money for contraceptivesmingmao3046
shhh don't say that, you'll upset the feminists.

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[QUOTE="whipassmt"] Well look on the bright side, at least that idiot Pelosi is no longer Speaker of the House.

whipassmt

yes, Boehner is so much better.:roll:

He inherited a lot of stuff from Pelosi, but I think the economy has started to recover a tad since Boehner became speaker. At least Boehner didn't undermine President Bush like Pelosi and Reid did.

Bahaha, can't get over this.. Boehner is head of the party of no.. The same party that has attempted to repeal the health care act 31 times even though its futile and a waste of time because it will not get passed.. He is the one that headed the group that had record levels of filibusterin.. He is one who held the debt ceiling hostage when the president was willing to cut things that no other Democrat dared to suggest years past in exchange for some increases in taxes.. I am sorry but if you seriously think Pelosi and Reid undermined President Bush, then Boehner has been skullfvcking the current president.

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#118 whipassmt
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

yes, Boehner is so much better.:roll:

sSubZerOo

He inherited a lot of stuff from Pelosi, but I think the economy has started to recover a tad since Boehner became speaker. At least Boehner didn't undermine President Bush like Pelosi and Reid did.

Bahaha, can't get over this.. Boehner is head of the party of no.. The same party that has attempted to repeal the health care act 31 times even though its futile and a waste of time because it will not get passed.. He is the one that headed the group that had record levels of filibusterin.. He is one who held the debt ceiling hostage when the president was willing to cut things that no other Democrat dared to suggest years past in exchange for some increases in taxes.. I am sorry but if you seriously think Pelosi and Reid undermined President Bush, then Boehner has been skullfvcking the current president.

Boehner never filibustered anything. And It was the Democrats in Congress who blocked Bush's health-care reform plan.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="whipassmt"] He inherited a lot of stuff from Pelosi, but I think the economy has started to recover a tad since Boehner became speaker. At least Boehner didn't undermine President Bush like Pelosi and Reid did.

whipassmt

Bahaha, can't get over this.. Boehner is head of the party of no.. The same party that has attempted to repeal the health care act 31 times even though its futile and a waste of time because it will not get passed.. He is the one that headed the group that had record levels of filibusterin.. He is one who held the debt ceiling hostage when the president was willing to cut things that no other Democrat dared to suggest years past in exchange for some increases in taxes.. I am sorry but if you seriously think Pelosi and Reid undermined President Bush, then Boehner has been skullfvcking the current president.

Boehner never filibustered anything. And It was the Democrats in Congress who blocked Bush's health-care reform plan.

He is Speaker, he controls the Republican majority and under him as both minority years back and majority now he has filibustered record amounts.. Your talking out of your ass, this is not suggesting that democrats were saints.. They most certainly were not, but if you seriously think Pelosi and Reid undermined Bush than Boehner has basically shoved a long object down Obama's throat..
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Bahaha, can't get over this.. Boehner is head of the party of no.. The same party that has attempted to repeal the health care act 31 times even though its futile and a waste of time because it will not get passed.. He is the one that headed the group that had record levels of filibusterin.. He is one who held the debt ceiling hostage when the president was willing to cut things that no other Democrat dared to suggest years past in exchange for some increases in taxes.. I am sorry but if you seriously think Pelosi and Reid undermined President Bush, then Boehner has been skullfvcking the current president.

sSubZerOo

Boehner never filibustered anything. And It was the Democrats in Congress who blocked Bush's health-care reform plan.

He is Speaker, he controls the Republican majority and under him as both minority years back and majority now he has filibustered record amounts.. Your talking out of your ass, this is not suggesting that democrats were saints.. They most certainly were not, but if you seriously think Pelosi and Reid undermined Bush than Boehner has basically shoved a long object down Obama's throat..

Boehner never voted to filibuster bills that was b*** McConell.

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Are you going to incorporate this into a future sermon?cybrcatter
While I do not intend to derail this topic any further, I find myself obligated to respond here. I will only preach the direct point and intent of a specific text of Scripture. From a pulpit I refuse to speak of anything that can be considered as merely my opinion and not the intent of the text. It might even be true and good but if it is not directly from the text of Scripture then it should not be spoken of as if it is. If it is not the Bible and the redemption of humanity found in Jesus that is preached from a pulpit then the preacher is nothing but a preacher of opinions at best and a false prophet at worst. As such, if I do not see my statements here as being the direct teaching of a text, it will not be in any conceivable sermon I might preach.
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="whipassmt"] He inherited a lot of stuff from Pelosi, but I think the economy has started to recover a tad since Boehner became speaker. At least Boehner didn't undermine President Bush like Pelosi and Reid did.

whipassmt

Bahaha, can't get over this.. Boehner is head of the party of no.. The same party that has attempted to repeal the health care act 31 times even though its futile and a waste of time because it will not get passed.. He is the one that headed the group that had record levels of filibusterin.. He is one who held the debt ceiling hostage when the president was willing to cut things that no other Democrat dared to suggest years past in exchange for some increases in taxes.. I am sorry but if you seriously think Pelosi and Reid undermined President Bush, then Boehner has been skullfvcking the current president.

Boehner never filibustered anything. And It was the Democrats in Congress who blocked Bush's health-care reform plan.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/06/26/house_gop_leader_boehner_filibusters_cap-and-trade_bill.html nope never a single thing he filibustered.. Oh wait a minute... He is apart of the party in house and congress and is the spokes person for them.. I say again if you think Pelosi and Reid have undermined Bush presidency, than the Republicans in house and senate have skull fvcked the current president.. Because no amount of resistance has existed in past decades regardless of party in house and senate before this group..

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="whipassmt"] He inherited a lot of stuff from Pelosi, but I think the economy has started to recover a tad since Boehner became speaker. At least Boehner didn't undermine President Bush like Pelosi and Reid did.

whipassmt

Bahaha, can't get over this.. Boehner is head of the party of no.. The same party that has attempted to repeal the health care act 31 times even though its futile and a waste of time because it will not get passed.. He is the one that headed the group that had record levels of filibusterin.. He is one who held the debt ceiling hostage when the president was willing to cut things that no other Democrat dared to suggest years past in exchange for some increases in taxes.. I am sorry but if you seriously think Pelosi and Reid undermined President Bush, then Boehner has been skullfvcking the current president.

Boehner never filibustered anything. And It was the Democrats in Congress who blocked Bush's health-care reform plan.

you realize that The House of Representatives don't even have the filibuster at their disposal. You might as well say that about any House member.
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#124 The-Apostle
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she should Give that money to me instead.

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I just need a few grand... >_>
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#125 whipassmt
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Bahaha, can't get over this.. Boehner is head of the party of no.. The same party that has attempted to repeal the health care act 31 times even though its futile and a waste of time because it will not get passed.. He is the one that headed the group that had record levels of filibusterin.. He is one who held the debt ceiling hostage when the president was willing to cut things that no other Democrat dared to suggest years past in exchange for some increases in taxes.. I am sorry but if you seriously think Pelosi and Reid undermined President Bush, then Boehner has been skullfvcking the current president.

sSubZerOo

Boehner never filibustered anything. And It was the Democrats in Congress who blocked Bush's health-care reform plan.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/06/26/house_gop_leader_boehner_filibusters_cap-and-trade_bill.html nope never a single thing he filibustered.. Oh wait a minute... He is apart of the party in house and congress and is the spokes person for them.. I say again if you think Pelosi and Reid have undermined Bush presidency, than the Republicans in house and senate have skull fvcked the current president.. Because no amount of resistance has existed in past decades regardless of party in house and senate before this group..

Did Boehner try to block the surge, or attach arbitrary withdrawal deadlines to defense appropriation bills? Did Boehner visit Syria and meet with Assad when Bush said not too, no he didn't.

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#126 tenaka2
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Melinda Gates is donating $560 million dollars to so that poorer countries can have better access to contraceptives.


Here's the linkhttp://www.chicagotribune.com/health/sns-rt-us-contraception-gates-melindabre86a1du-20120711,0,2461524.story

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The catholic church will not be happy with her.

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#127 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

buh buh y she pushin her beliefs on othuh people herpaderpderp

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Exactly. She's being anti-Catholic.

This, the cathoilc church is happier to see a person die of aids rather then use a condom.

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#128 -Renegade
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Gotta control population somehow... that's why they created aids.
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The lower the birth rate the better in developing countries the better. This is a good thing, although I wish more effort in general went to fight poverty itself.

l4dak47

Same. Education and better standards of living are the best birth control out there.

Indeed.

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All I am saying is that if you are not capable of raising a child, don't have sex. :(toast_burner

Yes and to avoid car crashes nobody in the world should drive a car.

And when you do drive, you shouldn't wear seat belts.

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I'm suprised the pope hasn't condemned/excommunicate/declare her a witch.... might happen though:P

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I'm not sure why anybody would care what the pope has to say anymore.

He's got a cool hat and a city. That's more than I can say of you.

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#132 deactivated-598fc45371265
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$560 million is like more than the entire GDP of Africa isn't it?

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#133 lo_Pine
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I bet those people would rather have that $560 million go towards food and clean water and medicine than contraception.

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I think a lot of those women, maybe most, don't have a choice when a man approaches them for sex in those countries. He is so horny he doesn't care about her, period. So that's why contraception is important. Maybe all the sex is consensual though, but I doubt it.
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#134 lowkey254
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I bet those people would rather have that $560 million go towards food and clean water and medicine than contraception.

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agreed.
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I'm suprised the pope hasn't condemned/excommunicate/declare her a witch.... might happen though:P

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God forbid we try to stop bringing more people in the world, we obviously need more people to die of starvation and disease.
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#136 DaBrainz
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That's fine but I do wish these philanthropists would spend that money here instead of other countries.
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#137 Easports48
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That's pocket change for her.

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#138 sexyweapons
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Good idea

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#139 WilliamRLBaker
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correction: she is using 560 million of her HUSBANDS money for contraceptivesmingmao3046
you do know that she owned alot of stock in microsoft and got alot of money right?
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#140 CreasianDevaili
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Might of been more effective to buy them huge warehouse filled with cubicles with free streaming porn on the pc than to do this. If they got nothing to do, and no infrastructure to change it yet this does nothing but encourage more bumping. Eventually the supplies will run out after so little of the 560 million actually makes it to the poor people that it is intended for. So unless this is a continued effort, which it won't be, does this not actually make more pregnancies in the long run?