There are 5 males for every 1 woman with an IQ of 130.
This curve is an exponential rise, in favour of men. That means the difference between men and women, who have an IQ of 140, 150, 160 etc. is a continually-augmenting disparity.
What gives?
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I could explain it to you, but since you are a woman, you wouldnt understand. You need a higher IQ. :P :lol:
not at all, we also hit the less favorable end with the same kind of disparity, also we know math.Hrm. That is rather astonishing.
MissLibrarian
the ladies have a much more phallic bell curve than menThere are 5 males for every 1 woman with an IQ of 130.
This curve is an exponential rise, in favour of men. That means the difference between men and women, who have an IQ of 140, 150, 160 etc. is a continually-augmenting disparity.
What gives?
BiancaDK
Because women are too busy about their looks and other little stuff that don't mean anything and probably can't be changed without a ton of money.
Jk.
Who makes these IQ tests again? horgen123You mean those ever so highly accurate ones on the internets? My IQ is 450 by those and I feel that they are spot on.
That sounds mind-blowing and WTF and all, but the objective-viewpoint, need-more-info part of me says that it could just conveniently be leaving out information. There could be 2 women for every man with a 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115 etc etc etc IQ, but there are five men for every one woman with a 130. If the trend isn't continuous and is a one-off, that means there could be 5 women for every one man with a 131 IQ.I need more info to fully believe that's not just an attention grabbing headline and nothing else.XilePrincess
we also hit the less favorable end with the same kind of disparitysurrealnumber5
What this male said. ^
When you calculate the equilibrium of the spread (males have a larger spread than women), the difference in IQ scores, men and women respectively, is rendered insignificant (deviation of 5 to 8 IQ).
Where did you acquire this information... could you provide source(s)? knowing how the numbers were gathered is important to the question. UniverseIX
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S019188690400385X
Peer-reviewed article by Dr.Phil Helmuth Nyborg, you can purchase the article if you're not a member of sciencedirect/sciverse.
In layman's terms, women are more likely to have an average IQ while men have a better chance at being above or below the average. Therefore, the average for men and women remain relatively the same (100), except the standard deviation is higher for men.
UserBane
Yes, but why do you think that is?
If they are mainly made by men, couldn't that affect the outcome? [QUOTE="sonicare"] You mean those ever so highly accurate ones on the internets? My IQ is 450 by those and I feel that they are spot on. Yeah those. Funny, I got one which told me I had 37. Felt right at the moment I did the test.specialists, what are you getting at?
surrealnumber5
[QUOTE="UserBane"]
In layman's terms, women are more likely to have an average IQ while men have a better chance at being above or below the average. Therefore, the average for men and women remain relatively the same (100), except the standard deviation is higher for men.
BiancaDK
Yes, but why do you think that is?
idunno, but i can postulate with the best of em. could it be because men, in a hunter gather society, needed to be more adaptive and like in all evolution there are winners and losers?Ah okay. Thanks for tellinghorgen123
You're welcome. (:
I don't know, but I can postulate with the best of them; could it be because men, in a hunter gather society, needed to be more adaptive, and like in all evolution, there are winners and losers?
surrealnumber5
Following this theory, why did men need to be more adaptive? Raising a child comes off as a fairly dynamic task, and so does successful socializing in a heirarchal culture.
You're welcome. (:
[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]
I don't know, but I can postulate with the best of them; could it be because men, in a hunter gather society, needed to be more adaptive, and like in all evolution, there are winners and losers?
BiancaDK
Following this theory, why did men need to be more adaptive? Raising a child comes off as a fairly dynamic task, and so does successful socializing in a heirarchal culture.
raising kids might be dynamic but it is not life threatening or as tasking as being the primary laborer and risk taker. now if we men abandon women after mating i would expect you ladies to be bigger and instinctualy better critical thinkers.I don't know, but I can postulate with the best of them; could it be because men, in a hunter gather society, needed to be more adaptive, and like in all evolution, there are winners and losers?
surrealnumber5
This assumes a larger IQ score generates a higher level of adaptability to ones environment. I'm not sure that would be shown to be true in a majority of circumstances. It's just as likely a higher IQ score could be negative to ones ability to adapt and socialize with their peers. Which would alienate themselves. And this is my point. It's advantageous for women to make themselves as socialy available to as many people as possible. Being too smart, or being too dumb, would not help them with this(I used the words smart and dumb rather relucantly. But I'm having a hard time coming up with a better word). I think that social roles and responsibilities would play a significant role in ones IQ score. Let's look at prudent behavior. A high IQ does not necessarily mean one would make prudent decisions that would result in the better care taking of ones family, or relationships within the community. A women that falls in the middle on the IQ scale, would be more adaptable to a wider variety of people.Following this theory, why did men need to be more adaptive? Raising a child comes off as a fairly dynamic task, and so does successful socializing in a heirarchal culture.
biancadk
Thank you for sharing your source above. I will definitely look into. People are a fascinating subject for me. I wonder what would happen if you looked at the IQ variation between women and men in a cultural isolated, and technologically deprived population, where the raising of children was shared between men and women on a communal level.
you surround yourself with good company the absolute best....[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]why do I get stuck knowing all the freakin smart ones?.... :(...or am I just that dumb?.....sandlot76
Doubtful. I'm not even sure how a "gender bias" would play out on a standardized test.The tests could have a gender bias. Most standardized tests have a culture bias.
lowkey254
everything that does not show everyone being exactly the same all the time must be absolutelyflawed and dismissed..... how politically correct of you...The tests could have a gender bias. Most standardized tests have a culture bias.
lowkey254
[QUOTE="lowkey254"]Doubtful. I'm not even sure how a "gender bias" would play out on a standardized test. just ask the person who got the lowest score, they will tell you how the test was biasThe tests could have a gender bias. Most standardized tests have a culture bias.
sonicare
raising kids might be dynamic but it is not life threatening or as tasking as being the primary laborer and risk taker. now if we men abandon women after mating i would expect you ladies to be bigger and instinctualy better critical thinkers.surrealnumber5
Kids can be very, very tasking and laborsome, but granted, that's speaking on the emotional plane, not necessarily the intellectual plane. And hunting in a given environment would demand a somewhat fixed amount of effort, whereas kids hardly have a leniancy towards standard behaviour, thus a standard counteracting effort involved.
I'm going with your thesis, until a better argument has been provided. Thank you. (:
how would you go about removing the bias? I think a more significant factor to the test would be to standardized the time of day people take the test. Knowing when they had their last meal, how well they've been sleeping, can all play significant factors in their score.The tests could have a gender bias. Most standardized tests have a culture bias.
lowkey254
This assumes a larger IQ score generates a higher level of adaptability to ones environment. I'm not sure that would be shown to be true in a majority of circumstances. It's just as likely a higher IQ score could be negative to ones ability to adapt and socialize with their peers. Which would alienate themselves. And this is my point. It's advantageous for women to make themselves as socialy available to as many people as possible. Being too smart, or being too dumb, would not help them with this. I think that social roles and responsibilities would play a significant role in ones IQ score. Let's look at prudent behavior. A high IQ does not necessarily mean one would make prudent decisions that would result in the better care taking of ones family, or relationships within the community. A women that falls in the middle on the IQ scale, would be more adaptable to a wider variety of people.Thank you for sharing your source above. I will definitely look into. People are a fascinating subject for me. I wonder what would happen if you looked at the IQ variation between women and men in a cultural isolated, and technologically deprived population, where the raising of children was shared between men and women on a communal level.UniverseIX
You bring up a seemingly reasonable argument, so I'm going to adopt it for now. (:
It basically had to do with genetics. Evolution does not always have a logical pattern, it just goes with what works. Men and women typically have the same avg IQ or even slightly higher for women, but men have a lower floor and a higher ceiling. So the dumbest and most intelligent humans are male. Why? well can't really say.. thats just the way it isSTAR_Admiral
I belive in cosmos, not chaos, so that angle is difficult for me to digest. (: I won't refute it though.
[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]raising kids might be dynamic but it is not life threatening or as tasking as being the primary laborer and risk taker. now if we men abandon women after mating i would expect you ladies to be bigger and instinctualy better critical thinkers.BiancaDK
Kids can be very, very tasking and laborsome, but granted, that's speaking on the emotional plane, not necessarily the intellectual plane. And hunting in a given environment would demand a somewhat fixed amount of effort, whereas kids hardly have a leniancy towards standard behaviour, thus a standard counteracting effort involved.
I'm going with your thesis, until a better argument has been provided. Thank you. (:
IQ test are not an accurate measure of a person's IQ so...LordsLossBut they do offer a strong correlation.
[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]raising kids might be dynamic but it is not life threatening or as tasking as being the primary laborer and risk taker. now if we men abandon women after mating i would expect you ladies to be bigger and instinctualy better critical thinkers.BiancaDK
Kids can be very, very tasking and laborsome, but granted, that's speaking on the emotional plane, not necessarily the intellectual plane. And hunting in a given environment would demand a somewhat fixed amount of effort, whereas kids hardly have a leniancy towards standard behaviour, thus a standard counteracting effort involved.
I'm going with your thesis, until a better argument has been provided. Thank you. (:
If you consider intelligence to be a genetic trait, then you would have to have some type of natural selection that would allow those with higher intelligence to survive and breed preferentially. You could make the argument that those who rear children better will see more of them survive and thus pass on their genes, but that selection does not appear to occur along gender lines.Please Log In to post.
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