Metal vs. Pop

Which do you think is better?

60s-80s "pop" > (most) metel.

metal

Metal... although I love pop music, Death Metal and Grindcore are my passions...

As bad as pop canbe at times, the majority of metal I've heard pretty much has no sense of songcraft whereas there's actually alot of very good pop songwriting from the past.

I also think pop has more variety. Pop runs the gamut from stuff like Michael Jackson to stuff like Outkast. Most metal I've heard sounds samey. Same sort of textures, same sort of atmospheres, samey vocals inflections, etc.

Metal, there's actually variety in Metal.

Metal, there's actually variety in Metal.

Bloodaxe726

There's variety in pop.

The song "Hey Ya" by Outkast and "Like A Virgin" by Madonnaare both pop songs. They sound nothing the same.

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

Metal, there's actually variety in Metal.

GreySeal9

There's variety in pop.

The song "Hey Ya" by Outkast and "Like A Virgin" by Madonnaare both pop songs. They sound nothing the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRYYEJpybtY

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1zkXdqcajk

def sound the same

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

Metal, there's actually variety in Metal.

GreySeal9

There's variety in pop.

The song "Hey Ya" by Outkast and "Like A Virgin" by Madonnaare both pop songs. They sound nothing the same.

I like when two worlds meet. Like in this instance.

Hard to call for me. Both genres have some awful acts, and both have great groups. A few years back I'd probably of said Metal, but nowadays my tastes are more varied - I've got jazz, blues, metal, pop and some hip hop on my Mp3 :D .

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

Metal, there's actually variety in Metal.

GreySeal9

There's variety in pop.

The song "Hey Ya" by Outkast and "Like A Virgin" by Madonnaare both pop songs. They sound nothing the same.

They both will get stuck in your head for at least a week if you are subjected to them. That's close enough to being the same as far as I'm concerned.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

Metal, there's actually variety in Metal.

imaps3fanboy

There's variety in pop.

The song "Hey Ya" by Outkast and "Like A Virgin" by Madonnaare both pop songs. They sound nothing the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRYYEJpybtY

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1zkXdqcajk

def sound the same

Dont bother man... he doesn't like metal, you do... I would end it there... GreySeal9 has been very consistent, and he has his own opinions...

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

Metal, there's actually variety in Metal.

There's variety in pop.

The song "Hey Ya" by Outkast and "Like A Virgin" by Madonnaare both pop songs. They sound nothing the same.

They both will get stuck in your head for at least a week if you are subjected to them. That's close enough to being the same as far as I'm concerned.

[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

There's variety in pop.

The song "Hey Ya" by Outkast and "Like A Virgin" by Madonnaare both pop songs. They sound nothing the same.

heysharpshooter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRYYEJpybtY

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1zkXdqcajk

def sound the same

Dont bother man... he doesn't like metal, you do... I would end it there... GreySeal9 has been very consistent, and he has his own opinions...

A year ago I would have said metal easily, but now bands like Beach House, Wavves, Sleigh Bells, Fever Ray, Toro y Moi, Sun Glitters, etc. has probably made them equal in my eyes.

Same sort of textures, GreySeal9

No.

same sort of atmospheres, GreySeal9

No.

samey vocals inflections, etc. GreySeal9

No.

That's the problem when you try to compare two different things; we've got clueless people about metal and clueless people about pop. Just get a poll up there to clear things out before we get another one of these stupid battles.

60s-80s "pop" > (most) metel.

Pirate700

A year ago I would have said metal easily, but now bands like Beach House, Wavves, Sleigh Bells, Fever Ray, Toro y Moi, Sun Glitters, etc. has probably made them equal in my eyes.

iloverikku11

same thing is happening with me and Folk/Country... My iPod has no metal on it for the first time ever... nothing but Horse Feathers, Bon Iver, The Tallest Man on Earth, Donovan, Lucinda Williams, Neko Case etc.

I like pop metal!! :PRod90

A year ago I would have said metal easily, but now bands like Beach House, Wavves, Sleigh Bells, Fever Ray, Toro y Moi, Sun Glitters, etc. has probably made them equal in my eyes.

iloverikku11

METAL!!!!:Black sabbath, Megadeth, Metallica, Rage against the machine, etc

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

Metal, there's actually variety in Metal.

LJS9502_basic

There's variety in pop.

The song "Hey Ya" by Outkast and "Like A Virgin" by Madonnaare both pop songs. They sound nothing the same.

Yeah, but I'm saying that the pop umbrella is very large. It can ecompass everything from Kesha to Elton John.

I say metal because I find pop music to be annoying as hell. I love metal though so I guess I'm biased. :P

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Bloodaxe726"]

Metal, there's actually variety in Metal.

imaps3fanboy

There's variety in pop.

The song "Hey Ya" by Outkast and "Like A Virgin" by Madonnaare both pop songs. They sound nothing the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRYYEJpybtY

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1zkXdqcajk

def sound the same

Those don't sound the same as eachother, but that first link does soundslike alot of other metal. A person not used to picking out small differences would struggle to be able to distinguish it from other metal.

The second one does admittedly have some different elements in the instrumental, but the dude's voice sound pretty typical as far more "melodic" metal is concerned.

I'm not saying that there is no variety at all in metal. But I find alot of the black/death metal to sound very samey.

I like a few pop artists and metal bands, but not enough to say that these 2 are my preferred genres of music. So I would have to say neither.the_ChEeSe_mAn2

I prefer metal, mainly because I've found hundreds of metal bands I enjoy, and almost no pop bands I enjoy.chessmaster1989

want some pop music suggestions? As a fellow metalhead, I could point you in the right direction...

Pop music is inherently made to be catchy,so is it's a genre that lacks depth for the most part.

Metal give me depth and emotion in droves, so I would have to say metal for me.

I guess it all depends on what kind of person you are and what resonates with you.

Edit: I also love and appreciate metal instrumentation as well as it's just another layer of metal goodness to enjoy.

metal is more or less pop now. most of the metal heads wouldn't agree with that statement i think, but a lot of honest musicians/composers would.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

There's variety in pop.

The song "Hey Ya" by Outkast and "Like A Virgin" by Madonnaare both pop songs. They sound nothing the same.

GreySeal9

Yeah, but I'm saying that the pop umbrella is very large. It can ecompass everything from Kesha to Elton John.

Pop music is inherently made to be catchy,so is it's a genre that lacks depth for the most part.

Metal give me depth and emotion in droves, so I would have to say metal for me.

I guess it all depends on what kind of person you are and what resonates with you.

Edit: I also love and appreciate metal instrumentation as well as it's just another layer of metal goodness to enjoy.

FFCYAN

metal is more or less pop now. most of the metal heads wouldn't agree with that statement i think, but a lot of honest musicians/composers would.

z4twenny

I prefer pop.

Pop wins for me.

I mean modern metal vs modern popnatanaj

Taylor Swift>>>>>>>>Classic metal>Old school pop>Modern metal>>>Mainstream pop

I will take metal over pop music, but some of the metal that is around, like was linked to earlier, Septic Whatever, sounds just like static to me. At least with Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath or the metal bands of the 80s like Armored Saint, you could at hear the music instead of being just noise. That said, I still listen to some Carly Simon on occasion (she is still hot).

Growing up during the 60s and 70s there was lots of good hard rock and heavy metal and progressive rock to keep me rocking til I die. There was some good pop music back then, but after that, it went down hill to what we have today. Ugh.