MH17: Ukraine Accuses Rebels Of Destroying Evidence.

  • 106 results
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for JimB
JimB

3925

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#51 JimB
Member since 2002 • 3925 Posts

@sonicare: Russia has done it before when they knew it was a civilian airline.

Avatar image for Smashbrossive50
Smashbrossive50

3915

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#52 Smashbrossive50
Member since 2009 • 3915 Posts

@JimB: yes it did,but as Uni Soviet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Lines_Flight_007


shame is that this South Korean "James Bond" fell to the hands of the Communist through the same method(SAM collision)


on my own case,the Ukrainians were the one responsible for attacking a civilian plane

Avatar image for uninspiredcup
uninspiredcup

63172

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 86

User Lists: 2

#53 uninspiredcup
Member since 2013 • 63172 Posts

@kittybangbang said:

As a Malaysian myself, this news really heartbreaking. RIP

let's start a world war 3

1. Claims news is heartbreaking

2. Recommends millions die

Avatar image for behardy24
Behardy24

5324

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 5

#54  Edited By Behardy24
Member since 2014 • 5324 Posts

Don't know why people are thinking this will be the cause of ww3. The most that will happen is that reparations will be paid out and angry slurs/ distrust will spark. The mistake of shooting down commercial planes during wars has happen a lot before.

Or I might be wrong as I am no student of politics.

Still nothing good about this news.

Avatar image for Newhopes
Newhopes

4775

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#55 Newhopes
Member since 2009 • 4775 Posts

@JimB said:

@sonicare: Russia has done it before when they knew it was a civilian airline.

So has the Ukraine and the US for that matter.

Avatar image for FreedomFreeLife
FreedomFreeLife

3948

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#56  Edited By FreedomFreeLife
Member since 2013 • 3948 Posts

NATO should attack Russia before Russia attacks Europe.

Russia has already attacked by political thing baltic countries. LEAVE US ALONE RUSSIA

Avatar image for LJS9502_basic
LJS9502_basic

180302

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#57  Edited By LJS9502_basic
Member since 2003 • 180302 Posts

@Newhopes said:

@JimB said:

@sonicare: Russia has done it before when they knew it was a civilian airline.

So has the Ukraine and the US for that matter.

Should this lessen Russians guilt?

Avatar image for Newhopes
Newhopes

4775

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#58 Newhopes
Member since 2009 • 4775 Posts

@LJS9502_basic said:

@Newhopes said:

@JimB said:

@sonicare: Russia has done it before when they knew it was a civilian airline.

So has the Ukraine and the US for that matter.

Should this lessen Russians guilt?

Little tip don't point fingers until you have proof.

Avatar image for LJS9502_basic
LJS9502_basic

180302

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#59 LJS9502_basic
Member since 2003 • 180302 Posts

@Newhopes said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@Newhopes said:

@JimB said:

@sonicare: Russia has done it before when they knew it was a civilian airline.

So has the Ukraine and the US for that matter.

Should this lessen Russians guilt?

Little tip don't point fingers until you have proof.

No one is pointing fingers. I asked you why you using this as a means to not condemn this act.

Avatar image for VaguelyTagged
VaguelyTagged

10702

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#60 VaguelyTagged
Member since 2009 • 10702 Posts

didn't the Ukrainian government just release a tape in which pro-russians were discussing their mistake on taking down the plane?

Avatar image for Treflis
Treflis

13757

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#61 Treflis
Member since 2004 • 13757 Posts

I'd wait to see what a independent investigation says rather then the " No they did it!" match that's going on before I figure who's to blame since I know both sides could've done it.

Avatar image for kenocratic
Kenocratic

124

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#62  Edited By Kenocratic
Member since 2013 • 124 Posts

The U.S. president says one American died in the crash. From a press conference about two hours ago.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-malaysia-plane-ukraine-20140718,0,3158456.story

Avatar image for Master_Live
Master_Live

20550

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 7

#63  Edited By Master_Live
Member since 2004 • 20550 Posts

MH17 passengers included American and former Indiana University athlete

Well, that can't be helpful.

Avatar image for deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51

57548

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 19

User Lists: 0

#64  Edited By deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
Member since 2004 • 57548 Posts

@Newhopes said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@Newhopes said:

@JimB said:

@sonicare: Russia has done it before when they knew it was a civilian airline.

So has the Ukraine and the US for that matter.

Should this lessen Russians guilt?

Little tip don't point fingers until you have proof.

I think they do have proof.

Avatar image for FreedomFreeLife
FreedomFreeLife

3948

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#65 FreedomFreeLife
Member since 2013 • 3948 Posts

@sonicare said:

@Newhopes said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@Newhopes said:

@JimB said:

@sonicare: Russia has done it before when they knew it was a civilian airline.

So has the Ukraine and the US for that matter.

Should this lessen Russians guilt?

Little tip don't point fingers until you have proof.

I think they do have proof.

What proof is needed? It´s fact that Russia shot down this plane. There is even proof. If you guys had live in Ukraina or baltic states you would have proof. Russia did this.

Avatar image for deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51

57548

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 19

User Lists: 0

#66 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
Member since 2004 • 57548 Posts

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@sonicare said:

@Newhopes said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@Newhopes said:

@JimB said:

@sonicare: Russia has done it before when they knew it was a civilian airline.

So has the Ukraine and the US for that matter.

Should this lessen Russians guilt?

Little tip don't point fingers until you have proof.

I think they do have proof.

What proof is needed? It´s fact that Russia shot down this plane. There is even proof. If you guys had live in Ukraina or baltic states you would have proof. Russia did this.

I dont think the evidence shows that it was russia that shot it down. The evidence suggests that it was russian backed separtists who mistakingly shot it down thinking it was a Ukraine plane. They have a recording of some conversation between rebels and a russian major.

Avatar image for deactivated-5b797108c254e
deactivated-5b797108c254e

11245

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 44

User Lists: 0

#67  Edited By deactivated-5b797108c254e
Member since 2013 • 11245 Posts
@kenocratic said:

The U.S. president says one American died in the crash. From a press conference about two hours ago.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-malaysia-plane-ukraine-20140718,0,3158456.story

Lots of people died on that crash. Does the nationality of any particular one of them matter?

Avatar image for deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51

57548

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 19

User Lists: 0

#68 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
Member since 2004 • 57548 Posts

@korvus said:
@kenocratic said:

The U.S. president says one American died in the crash. From a press conference about two hours ago.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-malaysia-plane-ukraine-20140718,0,3158456.story

Lots of people died on that crash. Does the nationality of any particular one of them matter?

Most nations report the number of their citizens killed in plane crashes or news worthy events. The dutch, for instance, have reported losing in excess of 170 citizens. However, they also report the totals of other countries too.

Avatar image for deactivated-5b797108c254e
deactivated-5b797108c254e

11245

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 44

User Lists: 0

#69 deactivated-5b797108c254e
Member since 2013 • 11245 Posts

@sonicare: I understand that, but this is not an American news website. Would it have been less of a tragedy if no US citizen had died? It is more of a tragedy to me, as a Dutch, than to him as an American? It just feels a bit uncalled for to call out stuff like that in here. Maybe I'm just oversensitive about things like this =)

Avatar image for FreedomFreeLife
FreedomFreeLife

3948

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#70 FreedomFreeLife
Member since 2013 • 3948 Posts

@sonicare said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

@sonicare said:

@Newhopes said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@Newhopes said:

@JimB said:

@sonicare: Russia has done it before when they knew it was a civilian airline.

So has the Ukraine and the US for that matter.

Should this lessen Russians guilt?

Little tip don't point fingers until you have proof.

I think they do have proof.

What proof is needed? It´s fact that Russia shot down this plane. There is even proof. If you guys had live in Ukraina or baltic states you would have proof. Russia did this.

I dont think the evidence shows that it was russia that shot it down. The evidence suggests that it was russian backed separtists who mistakingly shot it down thinking it was a Ukraine plane. They have a recording of some conversation between rebels and a russian major.

You clearly never lived in Baltic countries.

Russia sent soliders in Ukraine to kill Ukraine people, and Russia said that it´s civil war. How you can be so stupid? If you seen things i seen, you would not suprise. Russia do this all the time. Cyber attack, soliders kills our people, russians in our country says that they hate us and will attack at in future. WW2 began with Russia occupation and you saying Russia dident do this? It´s not suggest, its proved. You don´t live in here, so of cause you can´t see the real truth.

Avatar image for ps4hasnogames
PS4hasNOgames

2620

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#71 PS4hasNOgames
Member since 2014 • 2620 Posts

@Flubbbs said:

i smell false flag.. probally going to try to blame it on Russia... seems kinda dumb to fly a commercial jet liner over a war zone though.. tough year for Malaysia Airlines

What idiot OK'd commercial planes to be flying over a fucking WAR ZONE? Were they trying to save money on gas? I don't even blame the russian rebels even if they did shoot down the plane. They obviously thought it was a Ukrainian military jet. Why fly a passenger plane over a war zone especially a russian war zone?

I blame whoever OK'd the plane to fly there.

RIP to all the lives lost, terrible tragedy.

Avatar image for deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51

57548

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 19

User Lists: 0

#72  Edited By deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
Member since 2004 • 57548 Posts

@korvus said:

@sonicare: I understand that, but this is not an American news website. Would it have been less of a tragedy if no US citizen had died? It is more of a tragedy to me, as a Dutch, than to him as an American? It just feels a bit uncalled for to call out stuff like that in here. Maybe I'm just oversensitive about things like this =)

The guy who posted this thread is German. Not sure why he listed it the way he did.

Avatar image for JimB
JimB

3925

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#73  Edited By JimB
Member since 2002 • 3925 Posts

@FreedomFreeLife: Russia shot down a civilian plane when Regan was president. They clearly knew it what kind of a plane it was. And to the person who stated the United States shot down a civilian you are full of shit. The United States never shot down a civilian plane even in a war by mistake.

Avatar image for Master_Live
Master_Live

20550

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 7

#74  Edited By Master_Live
Member since 2004 • 20550 Posts

Lets clear some things so there are no misunderstandings:

  • I'm not German (no idea where you got that). I'm Puerto Rican (a US citizen too).
  • The title reflects the latest information shared by Obama himself on today's press conference.
  • I highlighted the fact that there was "1 US citizen dead" since that would weight heavily on the United States response to this tragedy. Imagine if the plane had gone down with 100, 200 or all 298 passengers/crew being Americans. Would the US government response be the same? Of course not. I'm focusing at the geopolitical consequences vis a vis the US government.

Avatar image for sibu_xgamer
sibu_xgamer

340

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#75  Edited By sibu_xgamer
Member since 2014 • 340 Posts

@JimB said:

@FreedomFreeLife: Russia shot down a civilian plane when Regan was president. They clearly knew it what kind of a plane it was. And to the person who stated the United States shot down a civilian you are full of shit. The United States never shot down a civilian plane even in a war by mistake.

History lesson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

Also

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubana_de_Aviaci%C3%B3n_Flight_455

Avatar image for behardy24
Behardy24

5324

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 5

#76 Behardy24
Member since 2014 • 5324 Posts

Stuff is going down.

Avatar image for lamprey263
lamprey263

45524

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 10

User Lists: 0

#77  Edited By lamprey263
Member since 2006 • 45524 Posts

@Aljosa23 said:

@Flubbbs said:

@Aljosa23 said:

@Flubbbs said:

i smell false flag.. probally going to try to blame it on Russia... seems kinda dumb to fly a commercial jet liner over a war zone though.. tough year for Malaysia Airlines

Russian separatists have already taken credit for it thinking it was a Ukrainian jet.

where have you seen that at?

https://twitter.com/rjamesjones/status/489801002862669824

CNN confirmed it on their channel a few minutes ago, too.

Dude on the BBC ticker is saying they don't have the weaponry capable though. So, seems like there is a bit of confusion right now.

17:57: A spokesman for pro-Russian separatists in the Donetsk region told Russia's Rossiya TV that they were not capable of bringing down a commercial airliner flying at 10,000 metres.

17:57: "The portable air defence systems which we have, they work at a maximum of three to four thousand metres. Therefore, it is possible to say virtually before the start of the investigation that the Ukrainian armed forces destroyed this," separatist spokesman Sergey Kavtaradze says.

The Buk rockets said to be used can reach up to 70,000 feet, the plane was flying at roughly 30,000 feet, well in range of such rockets.

News outlets have been saying the ethnic Russian rebels have been claimed to have captured a Buk mobile surface-to-air missile platform not too long back, Ukraine security forces have footage of the Buk rockets moving into a town 2 hours before the plane was shot down, the next morning footage showed the same Buk system being moved out of town missing two of the hour missiles seen on it before the plane was shot down. Ukraine security forces have also intercepted communication between the ethnic Russian rebels where they're discussing that they shot down a commercial passenger airliner. Ethnic Russian fighters also took the black box and gave it to the Russians; I highly doubt Russians are handing that over. There's also a trail of social network comments that they're deleting but news outlets have been monitoring that show the ethnic Russian fighters were responsible.

Avatar image for branketra
branketra

51726

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 9

User Lists: 9

#78 branketra
Member since 2006 • 51726 Posts

I wonder how Malaysia Airlines figured flying through Ukraine was a reasonable idea given the current state that country is in.

Avatar image for Flubbbs
Flubbbs

4968

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#79 Flubbbs
Member since 2010 • 4968 Posts

@lamprey263 said:

@Aljosa23 said:

@Flubbbs said:

@Aljosa23 said:

@Flubbbs said:

i smell false flag.. probally going to try to blame it on Russia... seems kinda dumb to fly a commercial jet liner over a war zone though.. tough year for Malaysia Airlines

Russian separatists have already taken credit for it thinking it was a Ukrainian jet.

where have you seen that at?

https://twitter.com/rjamesjones/status/489801002862669824

CNN confirmed it on their channel a few minutes ago, too.

Dude on the BBC ticker is saying they don't have the weaponry capable though. So, seems like there is a bit of confusion right now.

17:57: A spokesman for pro-Russian separatists in the Donetsk region told Russia's Rossiya TV that they were not capable of bringing down a commercial airliner flying at 10,000 metres.

17:57: "The portable air defence systems which we have, they work at a maximum of three to four thousand metres. Therefore, it is possible to say virtually before the start of the investigation that the Ukrainian armed forces destroyed this," separatist spokesman Sergey Kavtaradze says.

The Buk rockets said to be used can reach up to 70,000 feet, the plane was flying at roughly 30,000 feet, well in range of such rockets.

News outlets have been saying the ethnic Russian rebels have been claimed to have captured a Buk mobile surface-to-air missile platform not too long back, Ukraine security forces have footage of the Buk rockets moving into a town 2 hours before the plane was shot down, the next morning footage showed the same Buk system being moved out of town missing two of the hour missiles seen on it before the plane was shot down. Ukraine security forces have also intercepted communication between the ethnic Russian rebels where they're discussing that they shot down a commercial passenger airliner. Ethnic Russian fighters also took the black box and gave it to the Russians; I highly doubt Russians are handing that over. There's also a trail of social network comments that they're deleting but news outlets have been monitoring that show the ethnic Russian fighters were responsible.

ive seen the video of the rockets being moved and the people talking about shooting down a plane.. that doesnt prove they were ethnic russian rebels.. that could of been anybody for all we know.

Avatar image for branketra
branketra

51726

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 9

User Lists: 9

#81  Edited By branketra
Member since 2006 • 51726 Posts

There were eighty children on Flight 17.

President Obama says that evidence indicates Russians supplied the missile system used by the rebels who attacked that plane. Due to the training required to operate it, president Obama also said they could not have done so without assistance. Russian involvement is currently being considered. Whether the Russians trained them or were on site for the event is being investigated.

The FBI is sending two agents to investigate.

Avatar image for Jebus213
Jebus213

10056

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#82  Edited By Jebus213
Member since 2010 • 10056 Posts

You know what. It wasn't the Russian Socialist Imperialists, Ukrainian Chocolate nationalist Oligarchs, or the drunk CommuNazi separatists.

I might be assassinated before tomorrow for saying this but.... I have come to the conclusion that it was the international Jewish banking cartel. Those AIDS researchers work against their interests along with the rebels. They are knocking two birds out with 1 stone.

Unfortunately the super computer underneath Jerusalem that comes into contact with Moses decided this.

TL;DR: The jews did it at the command of a super computer that is trying to make the perfect bureaucracy. A new world order will come.

Avatar image for kittybangbang
KittyBangBang

26

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 5

#83 KittyBangBang
Member since 2014 • 26 Posts
@uninspiredcup said:

@kittybangbang said:

As a Malaysian myself, this news really heartbreaking. RIP

let's start a world war 3

1. Claims news is heartbreaking

2. Recommends millions die

Pretty sure my second sentence was sarcasm.

Avatar image for Nengo_Flow
Nengo_Flow

10644

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#84 Nengo_Flow
Member since 2011 • 10644 Posts

@kenocratic said:

The U.S. president says one American died in the crash. From a press conference about two hours ago.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-malaysia-plane-ukraine-20140718,0,3158456.story

why is that one American person most important? why so much attention of whether or not there was american lives?

lives are lives, but American lives >>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else

Avatar image for lamprey263
lamprey263

45524

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 10

User Lists: 0

#85 lamprey263
Member since 2006 • 45524 Posts
@Flubbbs said:

@lamprey263 said:

@Aljosa23 said:

@Flubbbs said:

@Aljosa23 said:

@Flubbbs said:

i smell false flag.. probally going to try to blame it on Russia... seems kinda dumb to fly a commercial jet liner over a war zone though.. tough year for Malaysia Airlines

Russian separatists have already taken credit for it thinking it was a Ukrainian jet.

where have you seen that at?

https://twitter.com/rjamesjones/status/489801002862669824

CNN confirmed it on their channel a few minutes ago, too.

Dude on the BBC ticker is saying they don't have the weaponry capable though. So, seems like there is a bit of confusion right now.

17:57: A spokesman for pro-Russian separatists in the Donetsk region told Russia's Rossiya TV that they were not capable of bringing down a commercial airliner flying at 10,000 metres.

17:57: "The portable air defence systems which we have, they work at a maximum of three to four thousand metres. Therefore, it is possible to say virtually before the start of the investigation that the Ukrainian armed forces destroyed this," separatist spokesman Sergey Kavtaradze says.

The Buk rockets said to be used can reach up to 70,000 feet, the plane was flying at roughly 30,000 feet, well in range of such rockets.

News outlets have been saying the ethnic Russian rebels have been claimed to have captured a Buk mobile surface-to-air missile platform not too long back, Ukraine security forces have footage of the Buk rockets moving into a town 2 hours before the plane was shot down, the next morning footage showed the same Buk system being moved out of town missing two of the hour missiles seen on it before the plane was shot down. Ukraine security forces have also intercepted communication between the ethnic Russian rebels where they're discussing that they shot down a commercial passenger airliner. Ethnic Russian fighters also took the black box and gave it to the Russians; I highly doubt Russians are handing that over. There's also a trail of social network comments that they're deleting but news outlets have been monitoring that show the ethnic Russian fighters were responsible.

ive seen the video of the rockets being moved and the people talking about shooting down a plane.. that doesnt prove they were ethnic russian rebels.. that could of been anybody for all we know.

"that could of been anybody for all we know"?

Like whom? Interdimensional reptilian shapeshifters on a grand conspiracy to make you drink fluoridated water?

Avatar image for gamerguru100
gamerguru100

12718

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#86  Edited By gamerguru100
Member since 2009 • 12718 Posts

@uninspiredcup said:

@kittybangbang said:

As a Malaysian myself, this news really heartbreaking. RIP

let's start a world war 3

1. Claims news is heartbreaking

2. Recommends millions billions die

Fixed

Avatar image for Flubbbs
Flubbbs

4968

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#87  Edited By Flubbbs
Member since 2010 • 4968 Posts

@lamprey263 said:
@Flubbbs said:

@lamprey263 said:

@Aljosa23 said:

@Flubbbs said:

@Aljosa23 said:

@Flubbbs said:

i smell false flag.. probally going to try to blame it on Russia... seems kinda dumb to fly a commercial jet liner over a war zone though.. tough year for Malaysia Airlines

Russian separatists have already taken credit for it thinking it was a Ukrainian jet.

where have you seen that at?

https://twitter.com/rjamesjones/status/489801002862669824

CNN confirmed it on their channel a few minutes ago, too.

Dude on the BBC ticker is saying they don't have the weaponry capable though. So, seems like there is a bit of confusion right now.

17:57: A spokesman for pro-Russian separatists in the Donetsk region told Russia's Rossiya TV that they were not capable of bringing down a commercial airliner flying at 10,000 metres.

17:57: "The portable air defence systems which we have, they work at a maximum of three to four thousand metres. Therefore, it is possible to say virtually before the start of the investigation that the Ukrainian armed forces destroyed this," separatist spokesman Sergey Kavtaradze says.

The Buk rockets said to be used can reach up to 70,000 feet, the plane was flying at roughly 30,000 feet, well in range of such rockets.

News outlets have been saying the ethnic Russian rebels have been claimed to have captured a Buk mobile surface-to-air missile platform not too long back, Ukraine security forces have footage of the Buk rockets moving into a town 2 hours before the plane was shot down, the next morning footage showed the same Buk system being moved out of town missing two of the hour missiles seen on it before the plane was shot down. Ukraine security forces have also intercepted communication between the ethnic Russian rebels where they're discussing that they shot down a commercial passenger airliner. Ethnic Russian fighters also took the black box and gave it to the Russians; I highly doubt Russians are handing that over. There's also a trail of social network comments that they're deleting but news outlets have been monitoring that show the ethnic Russian fighters were responsible.

ive seen the video of the rockets being moved and the people talking about shooting down a plane.. that doesnt prove they were ethnic russian rebels.. that could of been anybody for all we know.

"that could of been anybody for all we know"?

Like whom? Interdimensional reptilian shapeshifters on a grand conspiracy to make you drink fluoridated water?

the tape is unverified

Avatar image for killerfist
killerfist

20155

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#88 killerfist
Member since 2005 • 20155 Posts

Apparently a lot of shit is going down at the crash site.. Reports say that first investigators are denied access to the site by the rebels. Also videos show separatists moving evidence (cleaning the site?) and witnesses say they are moving bodies.

Avatar image for wis3boi
wis3boi

32507

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#89 wis3boi
Member since 2005 • 32507 Posts

@killerfist said:

Apparently a lot of shit is going down at the crash site.. Reports say that first investigators are denied access to the site by the rebels. Also videos show separatists moving evidence (cleaning the site?) and witnesses say they are moving bodies.

They're looting valuables and probably hoping to hide any evidence of the missile strike

Avatar image for deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51

57548

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 19

User Lists: 0

#90 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
Member since 2004 • 57548 Posts

@Master_Live said:

Lets clear some things so there are no misunderstandings:

  • I'm not German (no idea where you got that). I'm Puerto Rican (a US citizen too).
  • The title reflects the latest information shared by Obama himself on today's press conference.
  • I highlighted the fact that there was "1 US citizen dead" since that would weight heavily on the United States response to this tragedy. Imagine if the plane had gone down with 100, 200 or all 298 passengers/crew being Americans. Would the US government response be the same? Of course not. I'm focusing at the geopolitical consequences vis a vis the US government.

I got you confused with that other guy. Last Ride or something like that.

Avatar image for Master_Live
Master_Live

20550

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 7

#91  Edited By Master_Live
Member since 2004 • 20550 Posts

Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17: Ukraine Accuses Rebels Of Destroying Evidence

From the article:

Ukraine accused Russia and pro-Moscow rebels on Saturday of destroying evidence of "international crimes" from the wreckage of the Malaysian airliner that Kiev says militants shot down with a missile, killing nearly 300 people.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

These people have no shame.

Avatar image for hrt_rulz01
hrt_rulz01

22709

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#92 hrt_rulz01
Member since 2006 • 22709 Posts

Unbelievably sad... What makes it worse is hearing that 36 fellow Aussies were on board.

I hope just hope that huge international pressure is applied to Russia or whoever, so that an independent investigation can be carried out and those responsible can be punished. Unfortunately I think Russia isn't going to make it easy and I'd say that a lot of the evidence has been tampered with by now anyway.

Avatar image for lamprey263
lamprey263

45524

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 10

User Lists: 0

#93  Edited By lamprey263
Member since 2006 • 45524 Posts

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/19/ukraine-rebel-leader-claims-flight-mh17-was-filled-with-already-dead-bodies/

Ethnic Russian fighters are nowclaiming the dead bodies were already dead when the plane was hit by the missile. Jeez, what other conspiracy theories will they come up with.

Anyhow, rebels gave the black box over to Russia. If Russia doesn't want to look responsible they'll need to pass that black box over.

Avatar image for GamerForca
GamerForca

7203

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 78

User Lists: 0

#94 GamerForca
Member since 2005 • 7203 Posts

@lamprey263 said:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/19/ukraine-rebel-leader-claims-flight-mh17-was-filled-with-already-dead-bodies/

Ethnic Russian fighters are nowclaiming the dead bodies were already dead when the plane was hit by the missile. Jeez, what other conspiracy theories will they come up with.

Anyhow, rebels gave the black box over to Russia. If Russia doesn't want to look responsible they'll need to pass that black box over.

Those claims made me lmao. That "rebel leader" sounds like a complete fucking moron. "Bodies were too badly decomposed to have been alive on the flight." Yeah, no shit they were badly decomposed, they were blown to pieces and then lying out in the sun all day. How stupid does one have to be to believe those things?

Avatar image for uninspiredcup
uninspiredcup

63172

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 86

User Lists: 2

#95 uninspiredcup
Member since 2013 • 63172 Posts

These Russian Rebels seem to have a 5 year old concept of damage control. Pretty much everything they are doing is simply making them look worse. Bunch of derps.

Avatar image for kittybangbang
KittyBangBang

26

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 5

#96 KittyBangBang
Member since 2014 • 26 Posts
@gamerguru100 said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@kittybangbang said:

As a Malaysian myself, this news really heartbreaking. RIP

let's start a world war 3

1. Claims news is heartbreaking

2. Recommends millions billions die

Fixed

You clearly didn't see my reply to this statement.

Avatar image for ferrari2001
ferrari2001

17772

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 9

User Lists: 0

#97 ferrari2001
Member since 2008 • 17772 Posts

Considering several Ukrainian military aircraft have been shot down in the same area in the last few weeks it is undoubtedly the pro-russian rebels that shot the plane down. Since they get all their weapons from Russia, they to are partly responsible as well. I'm all for very intense sanctions against Russia. Putin is rotten to the core and these pro-Russian rebels are even worse.

Avatar image for uninspiredcup
uninspiredcup

63172

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 86

User Lists: 2

#98  Edited By uninspiredcup
Member since 2013 • 63172 Posts

They had footage of a supposed rocket launcher thingy getting quickly moved back to Russia on a truck.

Avatar image for deactivated-59d151f079814
deactivated-59d151f079814

47239

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#99  Edited By deactivated-59d151f079814
Member since 2003 • 47239 Posts

@uninspiredcup said:

@kittybangbang said:

As a Malaysian myself, this news really heartbreaking. RIP

let's start a world war 3

1. Claims news is heartbreaking

2. Recommends billions die

fixed.

Avatar image for gamerguru100
gamerguru100

12718

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#100 gamerguru100
Member since 2009 • 12718 Posts

@kittybangbang said:
@gamerguru100 said:

@uninspiredcup said:

@kittybangbang said:

As a Malaysian myself, this news really heartbreaking. RIP

let's start a world war 3

1. Claims news is heartbreaking

2. Recommends millions billions die

Fixed

You clearly didn't see my reply to this statement.

I did. I was just correcting him. If WWIII were to happen, most of us would go bye bye, maybe even the entire species.