Mike Huckabee on "real America"

I'm almost positive now that Obama will be a one-term president and a republican will be in the whitehouse in 2 years. You guys better hope that a more moderate candidate like Huckabee gets the nomination, because it's looking like a real hardcore conservative like Rick Perry is going to end up winning the nomination.UT_Wrestler

A year ago I also thought that it was very possible that Obama would be a one-term president. However, since then Obama's popularity slide seems to have normalized. Furthermore, I am quite skeptical as to the capability of the Republican Party to put forth a candidate which can win the election. I'm all but certain that Obama will win in 2012.

[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]I'm almost positive now that Obama will be a one-term president and a republican will be in the whitehouse in 2 years. You guys better hope that a more moderate candidate like Huckabee gets the nomination, because it's looking like a real hardcore conservative like Rick Perry is going to end up winning the nomination.coolbeans90

A year ago I also thought that it was very possible that Obama would be a one-term president. However, since then Obama's popularity slide seems to have normalized. Furthermore, I am quite skeptical as to the capability of the Republican Party to put forth a candidate which can win the election. I'm all but certain that Obama will win in 2012.

I'm almost positive now that Obama will be a one-term president and a republican will be in the whitehouse in 2 years. You guys better hope that a more moderate candidate like Huckabee gets the nomination, because it's looking like a real hardcore conservative like Rick Perry is going to end up winning the nomination.UT_Wrestler

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[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]I'm almost positive now that Obama will be a one-term president and a republican will be in the whitehouse in 2 years. You guys better hope that a more moderate candidate like Huckabee gets the nomination, because it's looking like a real hardcore conservative like Rick Perry is going to end up winning the nomination.UT_Wrestler

A year ago I also thought that it was very possible that Obama would be a one-term president. However, since then Obama's popularity slide seems to have normalized. Furthermore, I am quite skeptical as to the capability of the Republican Party to put forth a candidate which can win the election. I'm all but certain that Obama will win in 2012.

The midterm election was fueled by an anti-Democratic sentiment caused by the recession as well as backlash to Democratic policies during that time. The Democratic Party for the next year and a half will be unable to unilaterally dictate policy, and likewise cannot be the sole party to blame for the nation's woes. The Republicans control the House, and they will put forth legislation which can be meaningfully criticized, consequently the election won't consist of this asymmetric political warfare. More importantly, historically speaking, Presidents tend perform very well in reelections. If the Republicans do not put forth a highly electable candidate, they will certainly lose. This necessitates picking a candidate which at the very least, doesn't distance the Republican Party from moderate voters.

[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]I'm almost positive now that Obama will be a one-term president and a republican will be in the whitehouse in 2 years. You guys better hope that a more moderate candidate like Huckabee gets the nomination, because it's looking like a real hardcore conservative like Rick Perry is going to end up winning the nomination.HoolaHoopMan

This was my thought.

The editorial aside, what in what Huckabee actually said is really that bad? Obama did spend four of his most formative years in Indonesia, which I imagine did provide a different experience that could certainly have given him a worldview that was different than what he would have had had he not. I don't see anything in Huckabee's statement that implies any sort of value judgment, as though to say that Obama's worldview is bad because of that experience.

The editorial aside, what in what Huckabee actually said is really that bad? Obama did spend four of his most formative years in Indonesia, which I imagine did provide a different experience that could certainly have given him a worldview that was different than what he would have had had he not. I don't see anything in Huckabee's statement that implies any sort of value judgment, as though to say that Obama's worldview is bad because of that experience.

GabuEx

I agree that this has been taken too far and people are making mountains out of molehills here. However, what a lot of people seem to have taken offense with is the reference to an anti-American sentiment:

Fischer: Well Governor, what got lost in all the shuffle was the legitimate point that you were making which is that we may have a president who has some fundamentally anti-American ideas that may be rooted in a childhood where he had a father who was virulently anti-colonial, hated the British - might have something to do with the President returning the bust of Winston Churchill back to England. You know, I was struck by the fact that when he made his tour to Indonesia, he made a point of going to an Indonesian memorial that celebrated the victory of Indonesians over British troops - again, part of that anti-colonial thing. And so I'd like you to comment on that; you seem to think that there is some validity to the fact that there may be some fundamental anti-Americanism in this president.

Huckabee: Well, that's exactly the point that I make in the book and I don't know why these reporters - maybe they can't read, I guess that's part of it because it's clearly spelled out and I'm quoting a British newspaper who really were expressing the outrage of the Brits over that bust being returned and the point was that they felt like that due to Obama's father and grandfather it could be that his version and view of the Mau Mau Revolution was very different than most of the people who perhaps would grow up in the United States. And I have said many times, publicly, that I do think he has a different worldview and I think it is, in part, molded out of a very different experience. Most of us grew up going to Boy Scout meetings and, you know, our communities were filled with Rotary Clubs, not madrassas.

I'm almost positive now that Obama will be a one-term president and a republican will be in the whitehouse in 2 years. You guys better hope that a more moderate candidate like Huckabee gets the nomination, because it's looking like a real hardcore conservative like Rick Perry is going to end up winning the nomination.UT_Wrestler

Haha, a moderate republican, you're a funny guy:P

Good thing I'm an Eagle scout :D

But, seriously, I don't agree with him.

Huckabee is not saying if you were not in boy scouts or some small city your not American. People come off with the dumbest conclusions here.

Good lord some people here draw wild conclusions.

Pirate700

Huckabee is not saying if you were not in boy scouts or some small city your not American. People come off with the dumbest conclusions here.

ToastRider11

I see so he was trying to complement Obama here? What was the purpose of his speech?

Good thing I'm an Eagle scout :D

But, seriously, I don't agree with him.

Shadow4020

[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]I'm almost positive now that Obama will be a one-term president and a republican will be in the whitehouse in 2 years. You guys better hope that a more moderate candidate like Huckabee gets the nomination, because it's looking like a real hardcore conservative like Rick Perry is going to end up winning the nomination.TacticalDesire

Haha, a moderate republican, you're a funny guy:P

They had one, it was called 2000 McCain... Since then McCain has mutated into a Golum creature by extreme conservative wing of the party to stay in office.

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[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]I'm almost positive now that Obama will be a one-term president and a republican will be in the whitehouse in 2 years. You guys better hope that a more moderate candidate like Huckabee gets the nomination, because it's looking like a real hardcore conservative like Rick Perry is going to end up winning the nomination.UT_Wrestler

A year ago I also thought that it was very possible that Obama would be a one-term president. However, since then Obama's popularity slide seems to have normalized. Furthermore, I am quite skeptical as to the capability of the Republican Party to put forth a candidate which can win the election. I'm all but certain that Obama will win in 2012.

Almost every two term President in the twentieth century had their party lose ground in mid term elections in their first term.

Clinton was re-elected in 1996, despite mid term trouncing for the Democrats in 1994.

Reagan was re-elected in 1984, despite the Republicans losing seats in the House and Senate in 1982.

Nixon unsurprisingly lost seats in the House in the 1970 midterms, despite being re-elected (though succeeded by Ford) in 1972.

Eisenhower's Republican Party got smashed in the 1954 mid terms in the House and the Senate, even after his election in 1952.

Truman again saw the Democrats lose ground in 1946, despite being a two termer.

FDR was actually the most recent of the past century President to see gains in the House and the Senate for his Party in his first term mid term elections. So saying Obama won't win in 2012 because the Democrats lost seats in 2010 is a terrible point, history has proven at the very least, mid term setbacks don't seem to matter for a party's Presidential candidate in the later general election.

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[QUOTE="UT_Wrestler"]I'm almost positive now that Obama will be a one-term president and a republican will be in the whitehouse in 2 years. You guys better hope that a more moderate candidate like Huckabee gets the nomination, because it's looking like a real hardcore conservative like Rick Perry is going to end up winning the nomination.sSubZerOo

Haha, a moderate republican, you're a funny guy:P

They had one, it was called 2000 McCain... Since then McCain has mutated into a Golum creature by extreme conservative wing of the party to stay in office.

Mike Huckabee's idea of what is the American norm is pretty cloistered.