Mike Vick What?

Sorry if this has been posted already. But yesterday, the Philadelphia Eagles got Mike Vick!? Being from the Philadelphia area, this is exciting and suprising news. Exciting because he's always been a good player, but suprising considering his previous actions.I didn't expect him to get back into the league that easily. Thoughts?

Well from what I hear, the Eagles already have a bunch of troublemakers on their team (dont ask me who, I dont know). I also heard that their fans are douchebags, and considered to be the nastiest fans in the NFL (not you specifically, I dont know you). So it seems as if he'll fit in quite nicely.

Well from what I hear, the Eagles already have a bunch of troublemakers on their team (dont ask me who, I dont know). I also heard that their fans are douchebags, and considered to be the nastiest fans in the NFL (not you specifically, I dont know you). So it seems as if he'll fit in quite nicely.

KcurtorMas

Well from what I hear, the Eagles already have a bunch of troublemakers on their team (dont ask me who, I dont know). I also heard that their fans are douchebags, and considered to be the nastiest fans in the NFL (not you specifically, I dont know you). So it seems as if he'll fit in quite nicely.

KcurtorMas

1. He payed his debt in the eyes of the law...so he should be allowed to make a living 2. He is an athlete...so you knew he would get signed by someone...most likely by a super bowel contender...why take the public hit unless you re close to winning 3. There has been MORE backlash than I expected...according to ESPN radio -people walked out of the Eagles game last night when they heard about it there (that is when it broke) 4. I am glad he did not get signed by my team -he desearves to play but is a horrible person -he drowned dogs in his pool with his bare hands -he hung dogs form trees -he electrocuted dogs to death -he threw family pets into pins with "fighting" dogs and watched them get killed All I would ask him is "what the hell is the matter with you as a person?"rawsavon

Well from what I hear, the Eagles already have a bunch of troublemakers on their team (dont ask me who, I dont know). I also heard that their fans are douchebags, and considered to be the nastiest fans in the NFL (not you specifically, I dont know you). So it seems as if he'll fit in quite nicely.

Sorry if this has been posted already. But yesterday, the Philadelphia Eagles got Mike Vick!? Being from the Philadelphia area, this is exciting and suprising news. Exciting because he's always been a good player, but suprising considering his previous actions.I didn't expect him to get back into the league that easily. Thoughts?

nicknees93

[QUOTE="nicknees93"]

Sorry if this has been posted already. But yesterday, the Philadelphia Eagles got Mike Vick!? Being from the Philadelphia area, this is exciting and suprising news. Exciting because he's always been a good player, but suprising considering his previous actions.I didn't expect him to get back into the league that easily. Thoughts?

mramz88

He did a lot more than that...read my first post on this page

-you know like run an illegal gambling ring for 6+ years, brutally kill 100's of dogs,dumb enough to snaek weed in a water bottle on a plane

And he is a great athlete, not that great of a QB

He served his time. He's giving back to the community. He deserves his second chance that he's gotten.

Let's just watch him play and let his game speak for itself.

I think it says something about the Eagles organization - it says that they know that their fans are among the least likely to have a problem with this. Not that there is NO reaction at all, just that they know that Philly fans have a, um...., reputation that made the organization confident that the fallout from signing Vick would be minimal. It's an embarrassing day to be an Eagles fan....

Also, I don't buy this "he paid his dues and deserves a second chance" BS. Do child murderers & child rapists deserve a "second chance" after they "pay their dues"??? No. We're not talking about someone busted for shoplifting or driving with a suspended licence here.

And of course there's the FACT that Vick is a comically over-rated player anyway and hardly worth the risk for ANY team to take.....

I think it says something about the Eagles organization - it says that they know that their fans are among the least likely to have a problem with this. Not that there is NO reaction at all, just that they know that Philly fans have a, um...., reputation that made the organization confident that the fallout from signing Vick would be minimal. It's an embarrassing day to be an Eagles fan....

Also, I don't buy this "he paid his dues and deserves a second chance" BS. Do child murderers & child rapists deserve a "second chance" after they "pay their dues"??? No. We're not talking about someone busted for shoplifting or driving with a suspended licence here.

And of course there's the FACT that Vick is a comically over-rated player anyway and hardly worth the risk for ANY team to take.....

backinthekrak

What he did is hardly on the level of child murderers/rapists.

Although what he did was horrific and disgusting, he did pay his debt to the the justice system, and like everyone else, has a right to begin living his life again. Even if he is a despicable person.

Well from what I hear, the Eagles already have a bunch of troublemakers on their team (dont ask me who, I dont know). I also heard that their fans are douchebags, and considered to be the nastiest fans in the NFL (not you specifically, I dont know you). So it seems as if he'll fit in quite nicely.

KcurtorMas

Actually you just described Oakland to a tee.

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Well from what I hear, the Eagles already have a bunch of troublemakers on their team (dont ask me who, I dont know). I also heard that their fans are douchebags, and considered to be the nastiest fans in the NFL (not you specifically, I dont know you). So it seems as if he'll fit in quite nicely.

rawsavon

I think it says something about the Eagles organization - it says that they know that their fans are among the least likely to have a problem with this. Not that there is NO reaction at all, just that they know that Philly fans have a, um...., reputation that made the organization confident that the fallout from signing Vick would be minimal. It's an embarrassing day to be an Eagles fan....

Also, I don't buy this "he paid his dues and deserves a second chance" BS. Do child murderers & child rapists deserve a "second chance" after they "pay their dues"??? No. We're not talking about someone busted for shoplifting or driving with a suspended licence here.

And of course there's the FACT that Vick is a comically over-rated player anyway and hardly worth the risk for ANY team to take.....

backinthekrak

[QUOTE="backinthekrak"]

I think it says something about the Eagles organization - it says that they know that their fans are among the least likely to have a problem with this. Not that there is NO reaction at all, just that they know that Philly fans have a, um...., reputation that made the organization confident that the fallout from signing Vick would be minimal. It's an embarrassing day to be an Eagles fan....

Also, I don't buy this "he paid his dues and deserves a second chance" BS. Do child murderers & child rapists deserve a "second chance" after they "pay their dues"??? No. We're not talking about someone busted for shoplifting or driving with a suspended licence here.

And of course there's the FACT that Vick is a comically over-rated player anyway and hardly worth the risk for ANY team to take.....

Ace_WondersX

The point is that just because someone has "paid their debt" to society, it doesn't mean that morally they are in the clear. Completing a penaltyimposed by the legal system doesn't allow you to be back on the same ethical plane as everyone else.

BTW, it was hardly just "financing a dogfighting ring".... You left out the part about holding dogs underwater until they drowned & electrocuting them, among other things. You make it sound like he was just sending someone a check instead of using his own hands to kill and maim. He's a worthless punk that you would want nothing to do with at all if he didn't play football.

michael vick deserves a second chance--he got 2 years in jail and lost 130 million dollars--debt paid and then some--other nfl players get arrested for domestic abuse and get probation and no leage suspension for the first offence--BEATING A WOMAN IS MUCH WORSE THAN KILLING SOME DOGS

[QUOTE="KcurtorMas"]

Well from what I hear, the Eagles already have a bunch of troublemakers on their team (dont ask me who, I dont know). I also heard that their fans are douchebags, and considered to be the nastiest fans in the NFL (not you specifically, I dont know you). So it seems as if he'll fit in quite nicely.

rawsavon

michael vick deserves a second chance--he got 2 years in jail and lost 130 million dollars--debt paid and then some--other nfl players get arrested for domestic abuse and get probation and no leage suspension for the first offence--BEATING A WOMAN IS MUCH WORSE THAN KILLING SOME DOGS

ghost2046

Fully Agree, I am a eagles fan and don't care that he ison the roster now. just as long as he plays to teh best of his ability.

[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"]

[QUOTE="backinthekrak"]

I think it says something about the Eagles organization - it says that they know that their fans are among the least likely to have a problem with this. Not that there is NO reaction at all, just that they know that Philly fans have a, um...., reputation that made the organization confident that the fallout from signing Vick would be minimal. It's an embarrassing day to be an Eagles fan....

Also, I don't buy this "he paid his dues and deserves a second chance" BS. Do child murderers & child rapists deserve a "second chance" after they "pay their dues"??? No. We're not talking about someone busted for shoplifting or driving with a suspended licence here.

And of course there's the FACT that Vick is a comically over-rated player anyway and hardly worth the risk for ANY team to take.....

backinthekrak

The point is that just because someone has "paid their debt" to society, it doesn't mean that morally they are in the clear. Completing a penaltyimposed by the legal system doesn't allow you to be back on the same ethical plane as everyone else.

BTW, it was hardly just "financing a dogfighting ring".... You left out the part about holding dogs underwater until they drowned & electrocuting them, among other things. You make it sound like he was just sending someone a check instead of using his own hands to kill and maim. He's a worthless punk that you would want nothing to do with at all if he didn't play football.

BEATING A WOMAN IS MUCH WORSE THAN KILLING SOME DOGS

ghost2046

Why? In what way is it okay, or not as bad, to do this to a dog instead of a person?

1. He payed his debt in the eyes of the law...so he should be allowed to make a living rawsavon

Sorry, but I disagree. Donte Stallworth also "paid his debt in the eyes of the law", but he should be in jail for the rest of his life.

Well from what I hear, the Eagles already have a bunch of troublemakers on their team (dont ask me who, I dont know). I also heard that their fans are douchebags, and considered to be the nastiest fans in the NFL (not you specifically, I dont know you). So it seems as if he'll fit in quite nicely.

KcurtorMas

Paid his dues, imo he should play.

[QUOTE="mramz88"][QUOTE="nicknees93"]

Sorry if this has been posted already. But yesterday, the Philadelphia Eagles got Mike Vick!? Being from the Philadelphia area, this is exciting and suprising news. Exciting because he's always been a good player, but suprising considering his previous actions.I didn't expect him to get back into the league that easily. Thoughts?

rawsavon

He did a lot more than that...read my first post on this page

-you know like run an illegal gambling ring for 6+ years, brutally kill 100's of dogs,dumb enough to snaek weed in a water bottle on a plane

And he is a great athlete, not that great of a QB

"executed approximately 8 dogs that did not perform well in 'testing' sessions."

I'm not saying it's right but stop stretching the truth.

He should still be in jail or should be dead. He is a horrible person.

[QUOTE="ghost2046"]

BEATING A WOMAN IS MUCH WORSE THAN KILLING SOME DOGS

Ammo87

Why? In what way is it okay, or not as bad, to do this to a dog instead of a person?

i didnt say killing dogs is ok,but its an animal and unless your a vegitarian, animals are food--beating a woman is one of the lowest things a man can do--even inmates in jail dont respect women beaters

He should still be in jail or should be dead. He is a horrible person.

ChaelaMcchubble

So you think they should kill a human being because he made some dogs fight? Again, not saying it's right but that's a pretty stupid thing to say.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]1. He payed his debt in the eyes of the law...so he should be allowed to make a living Ammo87

Sorry, but I disagree. Donte Stallworth also "paid his debt in the eyes of the law", but he should be in jail for the rest of his life.

I'm happy an organization like the Eagles picked him up. I think they'll set him straight and he'll become a productive person and an even better QB if he's given enough time and guidance.

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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]1. He payed his debt in the eyes of the law...so he should be allowed to make a living tbone29

Sorry, but I disagree. Donte Stallworth also "paid his debt in the eyes of the law", but he should be in jail for the rest of his life.

He killed a man. Comparing that to Michael Vick's dog fighting..I say Donte got off SO easy. All he had was a few months and a year of unpaid suspension..what a **** sentencing.

He killed a man. Comparing that to Michael Vick's dog fighting..I say Donte got off SO easy. All he had was a few months and a year of unpaid suspension..what a **** sentencing.

Uma-Chan

It really isn't an outrageous sentence seeing as how he was convicted of second degree manslaughter, he fully cooperated with the law, the man he hit probably would have been killed regardless of whether or not Stallworth had been drinking.

Also the family said it was a fair punishment and Stallworth financially reimbursed them.

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[QUOTE="mramz88"] he made some dogs fight eachother. boo hoo QQ. nobody cares. hes still a good ball playerParisHilton1Fan

He did a lot more than that...read my first post on this page

-you know like run an illegal gambling ring for 6+ years, brutally kill 100's of dogs,dumb enough to snaek weed in a water bottle on a plane

And he is a great athlete, not that great of a QB

"executed approximately 8 dogs that did not perform well in 'testing' sessions."

I'm not saying it's right but stop stretching the truth.

Actually, we are both exagerating...he admitted to 8 dogs...but these did not include the ones that died fighting or the family pets that he threw in with fighting dogs just to watch them die. They dug up tons of dead dogs on HIS property

Also, some people o here are comparing this to hitting a woman.

It does not compare at all.

I have never hit a woman (unless you count my sisters when I was like 5).

But there is probably a situation where I would hit a woman...attacking me with a weapon, attacking someone I care about, etc.

There is NO situation where I would

1. drown dogs with my bare hands

2. electrocute them to death

3. hang them from trees

4. throw small family pets in with fighting dogs and watch them get torn apart

-I am not some vegan either...I eat meat...I would kill a dog and eat it if I was starving...but I would never torture an animal like he did

If you want to know how I feel about his playing again or the Eagles, just read my previous posts

Also, the Dante Stallworth incident does not compare to this...it is very complicated

1. he did drink the night before

2. he was still legally drunk

3. but he had gone home and slept till the next morning

4. he was only doing 10mph over the speed limit

5. the guy was jaywalking on a busy street

6. the prosecution admitted that it would be nearly impossible to prove alcohol was the cause of the accident...basically it could have happened to anyone...just imagine driving down a busy street, doing 50 mph, come around a corner, and suddenly see a guy in the street

7. Vick intended to torture animals and he did for more than 5 years. Dante did not intend to hit someone

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Well from what I hear, the Eagles already have a bunch of troublemakers on their team (dont ask me who, I dont know). I also heard that their fans are douchebags, and considered to be the nastiest fans in the NFL (not you specifically, I dont know you). So it seems as if he'll fit in quite nicely.

Fuzzy_Bear123

well im not a douche and im an Eagles Fan:D

[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Bear123"][QUOTE="KcurtorMas"]

Well from what I hear, the Eagles already have a bunch of troublemakers on their team (dont ask me who, I dont know). I also heard that their fans are douchebags, and considered to be the nastiest fans in the NFL (not you specifically, I dont know you). So it seems as if he'll fit in quite nicely.

konvikt_17

well im not a douche and im an Eagles Fan:D

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[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Bear123"] Well you are correct in saying that their fans are douches (most of them anyways), don't know about the rest. Fuzzy_Bear123

well im not a douche and im an Eagles Fan:D

[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Bear123"][QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

well im not a douche and im an Eagles Fan:D

rawsavon

That guy is a freaking moron. I have no idea what he's smoking trying to get that kind of money. Hopefully he signs soon, he needs to get out on the field and play. I think Al Davis is spreading his influence into SF (with us drafting bust after bust)...

Oh well, thank God I follow college more than the NFL

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Fuzzy_Bear123"] What can I say, I'm just a bitter 49ers fan :PFuzzy_Bear123

That guy is a freaking moron. I have no idea what he's smoking trying to get that kind of money. Hopefully he signs soon, he needs to get out on the field and play. I think Al Davis is spreading his influence into SF (with us drafting bust after bust)...

Oh well, thank God I follow college more than the NFL

[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Bear123"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] Here is to hoping that Crabtree sits out all year then goes back into the draft...stupid move on his part...but I can always hoperawsavon

That guy is a freaking moron. I have no idea what he's smoking trying to get that kind of money. Hopefully he signs soon, he needs to get out on the field and play. I think Al Davis is spreading his influence into SF (with us drafting bust after bust)...

Oh well, thank God I follow college more than the NFL

Thats freakin hilarious :lol: (Kornheiser was horrible on Monday Night Football, but the guy is awesome on PTI).

Oklahoma looks really good this year, and you guys lost your best player (well one of them at least, in Crabtree. Didn't your guys quarterback finish his senior year too?), it looks like its going to be tough.

I'll be rooting for USC and they will drop a game to some unkown team (screw you Stanford, UCLA, and Oregon State for the past three years) and blow their chances of a national title.... again :sigh:

Well from what I hear, the Eagles already have a bunch of troublemakers on their team (dont ask me who, I dont know). I also heard that their fans are douchebags, and considered to be the nastiest fans in the NFL (not you specifically, I dont know you). So it seems as if he'll fit in quite nicely.

KcurtorMas

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Fuzzy_Bear123"]

That guy is a freaking moron. I have no idea what he's smoking trying to get that kind of money. Hopefully he signs soon, he needs to get out on the field and play. I think Al Davis is spreading his influence into SF (with us drafting bust after bust)...

Oh well, thank God I follow college more than the NFL

Fuzzy_Bear123

Thats freakin hilarious :lol: (Kornheiser was horrible on Monday Night Football, but the guy is awesome on PTI).

Oklahoma looks really good this year, and you guys lost your best player (well one of them at least, in Crabtree. Didn't your guys quarterback finish his senior year too?), it looks like its going to be tough.

I'll be rooting for USC and they will drop a game to some unkown team (screw you Stanford, UCLA, and Oregon State for the past three years) and blow their chances of a national title.... again :sigh:

Well from what I hear, the Eagles already have a bunch of troublemakers on their team (dont ask me who, I dont know). I also heard that their fans are douchebags, and considered to be the nastiest fans in the NFL (not you specifically, I dont know you). So it seems as if he'll fit in quite nicely.

KcurtorMas

Believe it or not, its all hype for the most part. The national media skews the view of Philly. As a season ticket holder of the Eagles, Flyers and a partial plan with the Phillies I can assure you that is not true. Their has not been a major incident in Philly reguarding sports in years. However some big incidents involving sports in cities that have popped up are in Chicago with the cubs and the beer dousing, and the fight at the Palace in Detroit. Out of all the sporting events ive seen in Philadelphia I have seen no such behavior such as that or anything close.

[QUOTE="KcurtorMas"]

Well from what I hear, the Eagles already have a bunch of troublemakers on their team (dont ask me who, I dont know). I also heard that their fans are douchebags, and considered to be the nastiest fans in the NFL (not you specifically, I dont know you). So it seems as if he'll fit in quite nicely.

microsoft4life

Believe it or not, its all hype for the most part. The national media skews the view of Philly. As a season ticket holder of the Eagles, Flyers and a partial plan with the Phillies I can assure you that is not true. Their has not been a major incident in Philly reguarding sports in years. However some big incidents involving sports in cities that have popped up are in Chicago with the cubs and the beer dousing, and the fight at the Palace in Detroit. Out of all the sporting events ive seen in Philadelphia I have seen no such behavior such as that or anything close.

[QUOTE="microsoft4life"]

[QUOTE="KcurtorMas"]

Well from what I hear, the Eagles already have a bunch of troublemakers on their team (dont ask me who, I dont know). I also heard that their fans are douchebags, and considered to be the nastiest fans in the NFL (not you specifically, I dont know you). So it seems as if he'll fit in quite nicely.

Fuzzy_Bear123

Believe it or not, its all hype for the most part. The national media skews the view of Philly. As a season ticket holder of the Eagles, Flyers and a partial plan with the Phillies I can assure you that is not true. Their has not been a major incident in Philly reguarding sports in years. However some big incidents involving sports in cities that have popped up are in Chicago with the cubs and the beer dousing, and the fight at the Palace in Detroit. Out of all the sporting events ive seen in Philadelphia I have seen no such behavior such as that or anything close.

If fans from an organization want a certain player in the draft and the organization doesn't get them or trade the pick away the player will be booed. It happens every year and dosen't just apply to Donovan. Plus fans have a right to boo.