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#51 ghoklebutter
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That is....bizarre.
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#52 GabuEx
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Seems like kind of an... elaborate way to discipline your kid.

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#53 Darth-Caedus
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I'm so remembering this for if I ever have kids.
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[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

I can't believe people think what this mother did was good. Obviously shes a horrible mother if her 5 year old kid is playing with matches, thats horrible she has her kid fake arrested. My dad once was on the phone before pretending to be a cop when I picked it up when I was a kid, I was scared to death and I still remember it and it's one of the reasons I don't like him. Maybe one day this kid will grow up to be a murderer because his mom was so horrible then you won't be laughing will you?

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Kids get into things when you arn't looking. A parent that can watch a child 24/7 is a parent who won't be doing anything else such as feeding the child, working, sleeping. You;'re naive if you don't think kids get into things and that if they do that makes someone a bad parent.

The kid will grow up to be a murderer because his mother disciplned him? What an over the top reaction. I think what she did is far better than parents who beat their kids when they do something bad.

I don't think it's anyones buisness. By the way, why is no one angry at the cop who went along with this? If it was such a terrible thing, why didn't he say no? It's not like she did this all herself, a cop willingly went along with it.

Thats not disciplining your kid when you have them be fake arrested, that will haunt this kid till hes older and he won't forget. I can't believe anyone thinks this is good what the mother did, shes a horrible parent. If my mom had me arrested when I was a kid with all the bullying I went through I probably would have done some pretty bad things to those people who tormented me.

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#55 deactivated-57e5de5e137a4
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Why, I'm morally outraged! No wait, indignant. Yes, I'm indignant about this whole situation! Won't someone please think of the children?
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#56 Theokhoth
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I'm so remembering this for if I ever have kids. Darth-Caedus
Fester the fear of Odin in them, Darth!
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#57 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

I can't believe people think what this mother did was good. Obviously shes a horrible mother if her 5 year old kid is playing with matches, thats horrible she has her kid fake arrested. My dad once was on the phone before pretending to be a cop when I picked it up when I was a kid, I was scared to death and I still remember it and it's one of the reasons I don't like him. Maybe one day this kid will grow up to be a murderer because his mom was so horrible then you won't be laughing will you?

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Kids get into things when you arn't looking. A parent that can watch a child 24/7 is a parent who won't be doing anything else such as feeding the child, working, sleeping. You;'re naive if you don't think kids get into things and that if they do that makes someone a bad parent.

The kid will grow up to be a murderer because his mother disciplned him? What an over the top reaction. I think what she did is far better than parents who beat their kids when they do something bad.

I don't think it's anyones buisness. By the way, why is no one angry at the cop who went along with this? If it was such a terrible thing, why didn't he say no? It's not like she did this all herself, a cop willingly went along with it.

Thats not disciplining your kid when you have them be fake arrested, that will haunt this kid till hes older and he won't forget. I can't believe anyone thinks this is good what the mother did, shes a horrible parent. If my mom had me arrested when I was a kid with all the bullying I went through I probably would have done some pretty bad things to those people who tormented me.

You seem to take this personally and project yourself into this situation with outside factors, which isn't how the situation should be analyzed.

How is this any worse than hitting your kid, which alot of parents still do? He wasn't taken down to the station and put in jail for a week and it didn't happen to him because she wanted to torement him. He did something he was no supposed to, there was a consequence. I doubt this will scar him anymore than the time he didn't get that toy at toys r us he wanted.

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#58 GabuEx
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How is this any worse than hitting your kid, which alot of parents still do? He wasn't taken down to the station and put in jail for a week and it didn't happen to him because she wanted to torement him. He did something he was no supposed to, there was a consequence. I doubt this will scar him anymore than the time he didn't get that toy at toys r us he wanted.

Pixel-Pirate

Yeah, I kind of feel that this is orders of magnitude more preferable than corporal punishment.

Plus, you can't fault the mother for lack of imagination. :P

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#59 GettingTired
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She taught the kid a good, important life lesson. Cops are overzealous thugs that will arrest you for the most pointless reason. Never trust cops, they're the enemy. I applaud her.
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#60 csimonma
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I would've saved the fake arresting for when the child is older, but you guys really exaggerate how bad this will "scar" the kid
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#61 Snakegear
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Lol, this was pretty close to were I live.

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#62 mindstorm
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My nephew at the age of 5 stole something from Walmart. My brother's idea to fix this was to have his son take it back and apologize as well as have a police friend sit down to have a chat with him. For my nephew's sanity's sake, thankfully my mom talked my brother out of the latter part of that. :P
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#63 Snipes_2
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He probably won't go near matches again. Lol, "Moved to Tears". Wow, Overly dramatic.

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#64 Pvt_r3d
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Holy **** that's where I live! I know exactly where that 7-11 is too! Why couldn't she have done it where no one else was anyways?
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#65 789shadow
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Yeah, it's elaborate, probably unnecessarily so, but he'll never play with matches again.

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#66 Zerocrossings
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The mother, who is only identified as "Michelle" stands by her decision saying, "I'd do it again. If more parents did what I did we wouldn't have the crime that we have now".

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Amen!

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#67 MetroidPrimePwn
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That's oddly elaborate for punishment. Most parents would just take the matches away and scold the kid.

It's a great idea, though. If my kid in the future ever gives me back sass, I'm totally taking him out back and fake executing him.

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#68 coolkid93
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Now, I'm all for tough love, but this is kinda overdoin' it, sister.

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Naaaw it's called discipline. Hey he'll never play with matches again will he? At least it was fake and it was to teach him a lesson and to protect him. Ok maybe it was too harsh but at least he'll be safe and wouldn't want to feel like he did when the cop had faked his arrest if he had gotten into the real thing. Finally a parent I've heard that is actually disciplining their children. You go girl. ;)
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#70 lloveLamp
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serial killer in the making right there
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#71 Sword-Demon
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people really seem to be over-exaggerating the effect this will have on him... he did something he knew he wasn't supposed to do, the police came and scared him.. lesson learned.. and the lesson he learned doesn't just pertain to this one situation.. he didn't learn that if he does something bad, then he gets a spanking. he learned that if he does something against the law, he can get arrested for it. that lesson has been burned into his mind.

so many kids do stupid things without considering the consequences.. do you think he'll be one of those kids? i doubt it.

and please, getting put into a cop car is hardly traumatizing.. even for a 5 year old. yes he may have been scared out of his mind, but he's not going to be having nightmares about cops for the rest of his life.. i'd be suprised if he would think about it a few months from now

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#72 MushroomWig
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I would of loved to see his reaction. xD It is too harsh though, if he was a teenager sure, but 5? Someone needs to fake arrest her!
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#73 voluptuoushrewd
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If the mother did not try to stop the "fake arrest" then the child will feel neglected.

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#74 p00zer
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People are overreacting. When I was as young as four-five my parents would leave me alone wherever I was for 15-20 minutes if I threw a temper tantrum. Granted they were watching nearby so I wasn't snatched or something, but it still really freaked me out. In retrospect, those lessons definitely made me a well mannered kid :). No harm done here either. It wasn't like she called the real cops, just got a friend to help her teach a lesson. Kinda reminds me of Arrested Development to a lesser degree :D.

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#75 mrmusicman247
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Well why didn't she just hide the matches from him?
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#76 Gaming-Planet
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Poor kid, he will never be the same again... before the arrest.

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#77 DeadSarow
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He will never play with matches again. Mission accomplished.Dylan_11
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#78 SapSacPrime
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Well why didn't she just hide the matches from him? mrmusicman247

Not got kids or young siblings? good luck hiding something from a persistent 5 year old. I don't see what the problem is he wont play with matches now, its not like she set him on fire to teach him a lesson (which is the sort of story I can picture reading on here next week).

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#79 Brainkiller05
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that's fantastic, i hope they charged her the bill because i wouldn't want my tax money paying for a cop to be wasting his time over something so trivial.
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]Well why didn't she just hide the matches from him? SapSacPrime

Not got kids or young siblings? good luck hiding something from a persistent 5 year old. I don't see what the problem is he wont play with matches now, its not like she set him on fire to teach him a lesson (which is the sort of story I can picture reading on here next week).

True. Although when i was young we were taught that the police were your friends. Now of course when i turned 16, i learned that wasn't true at all.But nevertheless, he'll most likely be more scared of the police now rather than knowing the dangers of matches.
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#81 jun_aka_pekto
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Now, I'm all for tough love, but this is kinda overdoin' it, sister.

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Not for me. If I did such a thing, my mom would've dripped melted wax from a lighted candle on my palm. She did it once when I took a roll of quarters from her purse when I was 6 or 7. I never stole again. Being handcuffed would be child's play to me.

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#82 EMOEVOLUTION
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Punishing curiosity.. a common mistake most humans make with their children. Way to stunt learning development and install a system of irrational fear.
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Punishing curiosity.. a common mistake most humans make with their children. Way to stunt learning development and install a system of irrational fear.EMOEVOLUTION

Better than having a house burn down if the kid was unsupervised.

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[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]Punishing curiosity.. a common mistake most humans make with their children. Way to stunt learning development and install a system of irrational fear.jun_aka_pekto

Better than having a house burn down if the kid was unsupervised.

Why would that happen? You miss the point entirely. I played with fire all the time as a child. I never burned down anything. but here is a better reason... and one you obviously didn't get the first time. Instructing your child how to use matches safely, what their purpose is, and what not to do with them is more beneficial than teaching them that playing with matches is a crime, and you'll grow up to be a criminal if you don't stop. It's not even rational.. because playing with matches isn't a crime. Fear of something happening is never an excuse to use extremes.
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#85 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]Punishing curiosity.. a common mistake most humans make with their children. Way to stunt learning development and install a system of irrational fear.EMOEVOLUTION

Better than having a house burn down if the kid was unsupervised.

Why would that happen? You miss the point entirely. I played with fire all the time as a child. I never burned down anything. but here is a better reason... and one you obviously didn't get the first time. Instructing your child how to use matches safely, what their purpose is, and what not to do with them is more beneficial than teaching them that playing with matches is a crime, and you'll grow up to be a criminal if you don't stop. It's not even rational.. because playing with matches isn't a crime. Fear of something happening is never an excuse to use extremes.

Sorry...children shouldn't play with matches. Just because your family was lucky the house didn't catch on fire doesn't mean his family would have been so lucky. What would scar him more. Sitting in a police care...or being responsible for the death of a family member
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Sorry...children shouldn't play with matches. Just because your family was lucky the house didn't catch on fire doesn't mean his family would have been so lucky. What would scar him more. Sitting in a police care...or being responsible for the death of a family memberLJS9502_basic

I think you're trying to put this in a "lesser of two evils" type situation. Both can be avoided is what i think Emo is trying to say.

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#87 Big_Bad_Sad
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He will never play with matches again. Mission accomplished.Dylan_11
A slap to the back of the legs would have achieved the same.
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#88 Murj
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One woman said, "That's not a way to treat a child, that's not a way to teach a lesson to a little boy."The Article

I'm pretty sure he won't be playing with matches ever again. This is good parenting.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Sorry...children shouldn't play with matches. Just because your family was lucky the house didn't catch on fire doesn't mean his family would have been so lucky. What would scar him more. Sitting in a police care...or being responsible for the death of a family membermrmusicman247

I think you're trying to put this in a "lesser of two evils" type situation. Both can be avoided is what i think Emo is trying to say.

Children need discipline. That boy learned a lesson....which most children aren't learning today. Too much a sense of entitlement. And I'm sorry....but to agree that letting a child play with matches is a good thing is flat our wrong. There can be serious injury if not death as a consequence.
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[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"][QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

Better than having a house burn down if the kid was unsupervised.

LJS9502_basic

Why would that happen? You miss the point entirely. I played with fire all the time as a child. I never burned down anything. but here is a better reason... and one you obviously didn't get the first time. Instructing your child how to use matches safely, what their purpose is, and what not to do with them is more beneficial than teaching them that playing with matches is a crime, and you'll grow up to be a criminal if you don't stop. It's not even rational.. because playing with matches isn't a crime. Fear of something happening is never an excuse to use extremes.

Sorry...children shouldn't play with matches. Just because your family was lucky the house didn't catch on fire doesn't mean his family would have been so lucky. What would scar him more. Sitting in a police care...or being responsible for the death of a family member

Fear should never be used as punishment. You have no idea what you're doing to a person when you use fear as a motivator. You're teaching them more than matches are dangerous. You're teaching him a whole condition of thought depriving them of their ability to explore and experience the world for what it really is. But, you're being a selective listener again, as usual. I listed two reasons. And you chose to focus on the one I already discredited on my own. And I discredited it on my own, because I knew somebody like you would pop in and say.. well that really doesn't matter. And to conclude luck had nothing to do with my family surviving my child hood.

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#91 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"] Why would that happen? You miss the point entirely. I played with fire all the time as a child. I never burned down anything. but here is a better reason... and one you obviously didn't get the first time. Instructing your child how to use matches safely, what their purpose is, and what not to do with them is more beneficial than teaching them that playing with matches is a crime, and you'll grow up to be a criminal if you don't stop. It's not even rational.. because playing with matches isn't a crime. Fear of something happening is never an excuse to use extremes.EMOEVOLUTION

Sorry...children shouldn't play with matches. Just because your family was lucky the house didn't catch on fire doesn't mean his family would have been so lucky. What would scar him more. Sitting in a police care...or being responsible for the death of a family member

Fear should never be used as punishment. You have no idea what you're doing to a person when you use fear as a motivator. You're teaching them more than matches are dangerous. You're teaching him a whole condition of thought depriving them of their ability to explore and experience the world for what it really is. But, you're being a selective listener again, as usual. I listed two reasons. And you chose to focus on the one I already discredited on my own. And I discredited it on my own, because I knew somebody like you would pop in and say.. well that really doesn't matter. And to conclude luck had nothing to do with my family surviving my child hood.

You didn't discredit your initial idea. FYI..instructing a child how to USE matches implies it's okay to USE matches. And guess what.....accidents CAN and DO still happen. Ie....he COULD burn himself or the house down while using the matches you've taught him to use. Fear actually IS a good teacher. It stays in their mind longer than a casual talk will do....

PS....you assume she was punsihing the child rather than teaching him a lesson. Not necessarily the case....

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#92 EMOEVOLUTION
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[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Sorry...children shouldn't play with matches. Just because your family was lucky the house didn't catch on fire doesn't mean his family would have been so lucky. What would scar him more. Sitting in a police care...or being responsible for the death of a family memberLJS9502_basic

Fear should never be used as punishment. You have no idea what you're doing to a person when you use fear as a motivator. You're teaching them more than matches are dangerous. You're teaching him a whole condition of thought depriving them of their ability to explore and experience the world for what it really is. But, you're being a selective listener again, as usual. I listed two reasons. And you chose to focus on the one I already discredited on my own. And I discredited it on my own, because I knew somebody like you would pop in and say.. well that really doesn't matter. And to conclude luck had nothing to do with my family surviving my child hood.

You didn't discredit your initial idea. FYI..instructing a child how to USE matches implies it's okay to USE matches. And guess what.....accidents CAN and DO still happen. Ie....he COULD burn himself or the house down while using the matches you've taught him to use. Fear actually IS a good teacher. It stays in their mind longer than a casual talk will do....

It is okay to use matches. People do all the time. You're being irrationally fearful of something that might happen. But most likely won't. People die, bad things happen. That's not reason to restrict the world. I'm fine with discipline when applied with rational reason. But, I haven't seen that displayed here. Because using matches doesn't make you a criminal.
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#93 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"] Fear should never be used as punishment. You have no idea what you're doing to a person when you use fear as a motivator. You're teaching them more than matches are dangerous. You're teaching him a whole condition of thought depriving them of their ability to explore and experience the world for what it really is. But, you're being a selective listener again, as usual. I listed two reasons. And you chose to focus on the one I already discredited on my own. And I discredited it on my own, because I knew somebody like you would pop in and say.. well that really doesn't matter. And to conclude luck had nothing to do with my family surviving my child hood.

EMOEVOLUTION

You didn't discredit your initial idea. FYI..instructing a child how to USE matches implies it's okay to USE matches. And guess what.....accidents CAN and DO still happen. Ie....he COULD burn himself or the house down while using the matches you've taught him to use. Fear actually IS a good teacher. It stays in their mind longer than a casual talk will do....

It is okay to use matches. People do all the time. You're being irrationally fearful of something that might happen. But most likely won't. People die, bad things happen. That's not reason to restrict the world. I'm fine with discipline when applied with rational reason. But, I haven't seen that displayed here. Because using matches doesn't make you a criminal.

People as in adults....not five year old children.:|

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#94 mrmusicman247
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Sorry...children shouldn't play with matches. Just because your family was lucky the house didn't catch on fire doesn't mean his family would have been so lucky. What would scar him more. Sitting in a police care...or being responsible for the death of a family memberLJS9502_basic

I think you're trying to put this in a "lesser of two evils" type situation. Both can be avoided is what i think Emo is trying to say.

Children need discipline. That boy learned a lesson....which most children aren't learning today. Too much a sense of entitlement. And I'm sorry....but to agree that letting a child play with matches is a good thing is flat our wrong. There can be serious injury if not death as a consequence.

I don't think a child should be playing with matches either. But mock arresting him is not the way to go. As i've said before, he'll probably be scared of the police now, rather than know the dangers of matches. And if living in Miami has taught me anything, its that kids who are scared of police don't usually turn out to saints.
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[QUOTE="The Article"]One woman said, "That's not a way to treat a child, that's not a way to teach a lesson to a little boy."Murj

I'm pretty sure he won't be playing with matches ever again. This is good parenting.

Id actually say it was bad parenting. Instead of dealing with the situation herself she has called the police. A good parent would have disciplined the child themselves.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]

I think you're trying to put this in a "lesser of two evils" type situation. Both can be avoided is what i think Emo is trying to say.

mrmusicman247

Children need discipline. That boy learned a lesson....which most children aren't learning today. Too much a sense of entitlement. And I'm sorry....but to agree that letting a child play with matches is a good thing is flat our wrong. There can be serious injury if not death as a consequence.

I don't think a child should be playing with matches either. But mock arresting him is not the way to go. As i've said before, he'll probably be scared of the police now, rather than know the dangers of matches. And if living in Miami has taught me anything, its that kids who are scared of police don't usually turn out to saints.

I doubt it. The cop is a family friend...and probably just had a talk with the boy. Kids are more resilient than people in this thread seem to think.

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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Children need discipline. That boy learned a lesson....which most children aren't learning today. Too much a sense of entitlement. And I'm sorry....but to agree that letting a child play with matches is a good thing is flat our wrong. There can be serious injury if not death as a consequence.LJS9502_basic

I don't think a child should be playing with matches either. But mock arresting him is not the way to go. As i've said before, he'll probably be scared of the police now, rather than know the dangers of matches. And if living in Miami has taught me anything, its that kids who are scared of police don't usually turn out to saints.

I doubt it. The cop is a family friend...and probably just had a talk with the boy. Kids are more resilient than people in this thread seem to think.

Then why have him in handcuffs? Why not just have the cop just talk to him?
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#98 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"] I don't think a child should be playing with matches either. But mock arresting him is not the way to go. As i've said before, he'll probably be scared of the police now, rather than know the dangers of matches. And if living in Miami has taught me anything, its that kids who are scared of police don't usually turn out to saints.mrmusicman247

I doubt it. The cop is a family friend...and probably just had a talk with the boy. Kids are more resilient than people in this thread seem to think.

Then why have him in handcuffs? Why not just have the cop just talk to him?

I'd guess to show him what can happen when you don't follow rules. We don't know how much of a problem this child was prior.
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[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I doubt it. The cop is a family friend...and probably just had a talk with the boy. Kids are more resilient than people in this thread seem to think.

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Then why have him in handcuffs? Why not just have the cop just talk to him?

I'd guess to show him what can happen when you don't follow rules. We don't know how much of a problem this child was prior.

You're right we don't know that.. but that doesn't mean we should assume he was a prior problem at all.
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#100 XileLord
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If my mom did this to me when I was 5 I probably would have cried :(

so I feel bad for the kid unless he wasn't a wimp like me.