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#51 pseudodog07
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[QUOTE="pseudodog07"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="pseudodog07"]

[QUOTE="bman784"]Threads with massive generalizations.bman784

Kind of like the ones you do about Christians. That is, until it's Obama's church, then you hop on the bandwagon.


What generalizations have I made about Christians? Please enlighten me.

I believe the words you said was Christianity is "detrimental to society" as a whole, along with other critisisms of church leaders. And, with Obama's church, that is "unashmedely black" and has adopted the black value system and black tenents you siad they are "not really racist". Biased much?

Objecting to a religious institution is far different from claiming that "all Christians are __". The latter would be a generalization. What you quoted was an opinion. I've never explicitly defended Obama's church. I've argued against the assumption that Obama is a closet racist because of the attendance at such a church. Because I defend Obama doesn't mean I like religion. Far from it. It means that I don't consider such personal trivialities to be major deciding factors in an election. Oh, and at the implication that you aren't biased: :lol:

And as usual, you end with a blah blah.....proves nothing.

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#52 Yuppitt
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Religion threads, or when a poster turns a totally different topic by making a comment about religion.

Just leave it alone. People are still going to believe what they believe no matter how many religion threads people make.

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#53 bman784
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And as usual, you end with a blah blah.....proves nothing.

pseudodog07

You sure like invoking arguments with me for the amount of nothing I prove. Don't worry, I don't hold it against you:)
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#54 legend26
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religion
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#55 EMOEVOLUTION
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I have this book and it's a book I like a lot. It's called "A Rulebook for Arguments". It's the third edition and it's written by Anthony Weston. What I like about this book is that at the begging of the book he says the following:

"Some people think that arguing is simply stating their prejudices in a new form. This is why many people also think that arguments are unpleasant and pointless. One dictionary definition for "argument" is "disputation." In this sense we sometimes say that two people "have an argument":" a verbal fistfight. It happens often enough. But it's not what arguments really are."

He goes on to say...

"In this book, "to give an argument" means to offer a set of reasons or evidence in support of a conclusion. Here an argument is not simply a statement of certain views, and it is not simply a dispute. Arguments are attempts to support certain views with reasons. Nor are arguments in this sense pointless; in fact, they are essential."

Well, I do find that interesting, and I must say I agree. Too many people approach arguments as if they are negative, and it's mostly because most people don't know how to argue to begin with.

If you believe in evolution and the idea of natural selection it's important to consider this in the terms of mental abilities as well as physical ones. If everyone had the same opinions, ideas, conclusions, and methods of doing things then that would leave us relatively weak as a species with few routes to take if change were necessary for survival. Arguments are necessary for the survival and growth of the human species.

There is nothing to hate about arguments. What you hate is as Anthony Weston says "simply stating their prejudices in a new form." Which is not an actual argument.

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#56 Bauers-Twin
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religion, lets just believe what we want thanks.
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#57 dday2121
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if homosexuality is a choice or not. Beinghomosexual is a choice. having attractions to the opposite sex isnt. /storyPremier1101

Being homosexual is having attractions to the opposite sex...or am I missing something?

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#58 deactivated-5a79221380856
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Religion threads are really bad but I find it funny when people argue science and religion together. The two don't even oppose each other. They're on seperate spheres of thought. Science can't contradict religion and religion can't contradict science. It's as simple as that.
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#59 Dracargen
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"Well, your just stupid."

"lol, religion."

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#60 Bauers-Twin
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"lol, religion."

Dracargen

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#61 MKHavoc
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Religion threads.
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Religion

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#63 Erasorn
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Pro rap people who say not all rap is bad and then the example they give me has the line "should have beat her up and ran".pseudodog07
Did you even listen to the song? It's that Lupe Fiasco song, right?

Cause if it is, you totally missunderstood and quoted it out of context. :\
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#64 shaza91
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The rap arguments. I don't care if people don't like rap. And I'm not trying to get anybody into rap. But if there is a topic about a rap song, don't come in saying "rap sucks l0lerz." Just stay out of the topic and shut the **** up.
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#65 pseudodog07
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[QUOTE="pseudodog07"]Pro rap people who say not all rap is bad and then the example they give me has the line "should have beat her up and ran".Erasorn
Did you even listen to the song? It's that Lupe Fiasco song, right?

Cause if it is, you totally missunderstood and quoted it out of context. :

Whatever dude, I can't stop you from listening to rap. I can only tell you it's mostly mean, evil, stupid, violence glorifying noise pollution. I'm a better person for not listening to it anymore.

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#66 pseudodog07
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And what might be even more disgusting is that from the Madonna's to the Britney's and all around, much of the pop music today is about hip hoping interracial sex, violence, and homosexuality in women!

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#67 Quick-Time
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Coke vs Pepsi. Too violent for my taste.

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#68 Master_Saibot
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[QUOTE="Premier1101"]if homosexuality is a choice or not. Beinghomosexual is a choice. having attractions to the opposite sex isnt. /storydday2121

Being homosexual is having attractions to the opposite sex...or am I missing something?

I believe having attractions to the opposite sex is being heterosexual.

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#69 Clampdown79
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I hate those "I disproved Athiesm" threads. Or "I really don't get this "God" threads. The arguements annoy me.
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#70 Thiago26792
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"You don't have any proof". People always demanding proofs for everything.
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#71 Erasorn
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[QUOTE="Erasorn"][QUOTE="pseudodog07"]Pro rap people who say not all rap is bad and then the example they give me has the line "should have beat her up and ran".pseudodog07

Did you even listen to the song? It's that Lupe Fiasco song, right?

Cause if it is, you totally missunderstood and quoted it out of context. :

Whatever dude, I can't stop you from listening to rap. I can only tell you it's mostly mean, evil, stupid, violence glorifying noise pollution. I'm a better person for not listening to it anymore.

And I really don't care if you don't like it. Still I'm pointing out that you missunderstood and twisted the lyrics into something it's not as.