Most inaccessible genres?

You mean the "scene" core, or the actual good metalcore too? Regardless with mathcore the album that got me into it was The dillinger escape plan - Ire works. Their "worst" album, but most accessible.

With mathrock I really got into it with This town needs guns - Animals. I still really dig this album, so give it a look :)

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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

I detest "genres" as such. Waay too many artists have created random sub genres just to be pretentious **** Certain sounds i hate but not i rarely even accept little sub genres. I dont even know what the hell Mathcore is.

Ilovegames1992

here are a few examples of mathcore (which is a great genre I should add):

Song 1 - Leaders of the genre IMO

Song 2 - Second favorite.

Its songs like that that make me empathise with people who just say metal is just noise to them. I love me some metal/hard rock but thats just silly imho.

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

I detest "genres" as such. Waay too many artists have created random sub genres just to be pretentious **** Certain sounds i hate but not i rarely even accept little sub genres. I dont even know what the hell Mathcore is.

wigan_gamer

here are a few examples of mathcore (which is a great genre I should add):

Song 1 - Leaders of the genre IMO

Song 2 - Second favorite.

Well that was... Interesting...

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[QUOTE="wigan_gamer"] Mathcore is metalcore at heart that uses unorthodox time signatures or multiple time signature changes throughout songs, if the heaviness isn't you thing math rock is nice too. Also it isn't to be pretentious... its used so we can pigeon hole bands obviously.

here are a few examples of mathcore (which is a great genre I should add):

Song 1 - Leaders of the genre IMO

Song 2 - Second favorite.

wigan_gamer

Its songs like that that make me empathise with people who just say metal is just noise to them. I love me some metal/hard rock but thats just silly imho.

I dont think i want to really. Sure i appreciate the immense technical briliance of the musicians but i dont like that ****of music i dont think.

Yeah it isn't for everyone lol wigan_gamer

[QUOTE="wigan_gamer"]Yeah it isn't for everyone lol DmadFearmonger

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

I detest "genres" as such. Waay too many artists have created random sub genres just to be pretentious **** Certain sounds i hate but not i rarely even accept little sub genres. I dont even know what the hell Mathcore is.

wigan_gamer

here are a few examples of mathcore (which is a great genre I should add):

Song 1 - Leaders of the genre IMO

Song 2 - Second favorite.

[QUOTE="wigan_gamer"]

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

I detest "genres" as such. Waay too many artists have created random sub genres just to be pretentious **** Certain sounds i hate but not i rarely even accept little sub genres. I dont even know what the hell Mathcore is.

Overlord93

here are a few examples of mathcore (which is a great genre I should add):

Song 1 - Leaders of the genre IMO

Song 2 - Second favorite.

[QUOTE="Overlord93"][QUOTE="wigan_gamer"] Mathcore is metalcore at heart that uses unorthodox time signatures or multiple time signature changes throughout songs, if the heaviness isn't you thing math rock is nice too. Also it isn't to be pretentious... its used so we can pigeon hole bands obviously.here are a few examples of mathcore (which is a great genre I should add):Song 1 - Leaders of the genre IMOSong 2 - Second favorite.wigan_gamer

A better TDEP to showcase would have been this

A better TDEP to showcase would have been this

PerilousWolf

Drone, ugh.

Drone, ugh.

travisstaggs

screamo, that is just annoying having a guy screaming in your ear.

Not a genre, but Gorguts is something I just can't tolerate.

I like almost everything except extreme jazz so I will go with that.

I'm yet to give the advant-garde side of metal a go. Maybe one day when I'm bored...

I'm yet to give the advant-garde side of metal a go. Maybe one day when I'm bored...

Celldrax

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I'm yet to give the advant-garde side of metal a go. Maybe one day when I'm bored...

wigan_gamer

I can't really rule out the possibility of getting into the genre......it'll probably like when I first listened to Symphonia......a nice refreshing break from the constant guttural vocals and blast beats :P

Free Jazz, Industrial (Like Throbbing Gristle, not NIN.), Avant-Garde and Experimental, Alot of the more extreme subgenres of Metal and Punk.

I generally greatly enjoy alot of that kind of stuff aside from bands like Throbbing Gristle and whatnot. They're just too experimental for my tastes.

Argh I forgot to put music in the title wigan_gamer

[QUOTE="wigan_gamer"]Argh I forgot to put music in the title horgen123

I'd say certain J-Pop song's. They're just too damn cute (I mean that in a bad way) to the point you can't take it seriously but they could eventually grow on you.

For me?

Dubstep. It's just noise. Really loud and annoying noise.

Some avant gard Jazz, no wave, first wave industrial music (Throbbing Gristle)and the subsequent noise experiement offshoots from that (Whitehouse)- all are difficult to connect with. I guess the latter are more about creating noise landscapes, and in some way antimusic. Kind of an extension of performance art rather than conventional music. I'll also throw in gabba techno- certainly in the 90s it was vicious, impossible to dance to neumatic drill speed electronica.Nasty stuff really.

I've found that a lot of people find jazz really difficult. I am a massive fan of jazz and it is perhaps my favorite genre, and when I mention that to people, they are really confused and surprised. They ask me for some recommendations, I give them, and they come back later saying that they just didn't get it. My friends aren't fools and almost all of them have played instruments and yet they still can't really understand jazz...either that or they just find it dull.t3hrubikscube

^^ Good call on gabber. That is definitely an endurance test.

Not a genre, but a band: Big Black. There have been very few bands that were as actively hostile to the audience as they were. Maybe Throbbing Gristle and early Swans. As much industrial as they were punk, their music was very harsh and abrasive, with an extremely mechanical and inhuman sound. Not to mention their lyrics... Check out stuff like "My Disco" or "Jordan, Minnesota" for examples.

^^ Good call on gabber. That is definitely an endurance test.

Not a genre, but a band: Big Black. There have been very few bands that were as actively hostile to the audience as they were. Maybe Throbbing Gristle and early Swans. As much industrial as they were punk, their music was very harsh and abrasive, with an extremely mechanical and inhuman sound. Not to mention their lyrics... Check out stuff like "My Disco" or "Jordan, Minnesota" for examples.

drochnathair

True I guess Big Black were at times difficult to connect with, as was most of that Blast First kind of sound. I thought Atomizer was a little more accessible that Songs About... mind you. I've heard a couple of Swans songs but really don't know too much about them to comment. The ones I heard just sounded kind of, morose if anything...

True I guess Big Black were at times difficult to connect with, as was most of that Blast First kind of sound. I thought Atomizer was a little more accessible that Songs About... mind you. I've heard a couple of Swans songs but really don't know too much about them to comment. The ones I heard just sounded kind of, morose if anything...

poptart

Yeah, early Swans and later Swans are pretty much two entirely different bands. The early records, Cop/Young God and Greed/Holy Money, are extremely difficult listening. Molasses slow (like funeral doom pace) beats with noise guitar and a maniacal vocalist shrieking pure mistanthropy. Later on, they evolved into a sort of dark folk ensemble, with very sad lyrics and gorgeous instrumentation. The Burning World and White Light From the Mouth of Infinity are two of my all-time favorite records.

But seriously, those early records are for adventurous listeners only.

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True I guess Big Black were at times difficult to connect with, as was most of that Blast First kind of sound. I thought Atomizer was a little more accessible that Songs About... mind you. I've heard a couple of Swans songs but really don't know too much about them to comment. The ones I heard just sounded kind of, morose if anything...

drochnathair

Yeah, early Swans and later Swans are pretty much two entirely different bands. The early records, Cop/Young God and Greed/Holy Money, are extremely difficult listening. Molasses slow (like funeral doom pace) beats with noise guitar and a maniacal vocalist shrieking pure mistanthropy. Later on, they evolved into a sort of dark folk ensemble, with very sad lyrics and gorgeous instrumentation. The Burning World and White Light From the Mouth of Infinity are two of my all-time favorite records.

But seriously, those early records are for adventurous listeners only.

Oh I enjoy the odd sonic adventure, so maybe it could be worth a peek. As it's winter down under I can't listen to anything too gloomy though. When it's cold and grey it just accentuates the misery - maybe I'll leave until the suns got his hat back on...

True Noise

Bastard Noise

Merzbow

Folk.CoolSkAGuy

^^ Good call on gabber. That is definitely an endurance test.

drochnathair

[QUOTE="drochnathair"]

^^ Good call on gabber. That is definitely an endurance test.

wigan_gamer

I remember going to my one and only gabber night in the mid 90s - a right state still going on a double nighter. Probably one of the more amusing evenings nestled in a sketchy illegal club under the M32 in Bristol - watching people dance to that stuff is amazing. All you can really do when the BPM goes north of 200 is convulse, but hell s*** people were giving a good go.

post-core elecotrance speedfolk. Finding it is a task in itself.redwolf22

Link?I would love to hear what this sounds like but a google search yields no results :(